27 episodes

Wondering how to deepen your friendships and other relationships through an antiracism lens? Listen as two friends choose to take on the cross racial work of racial healing after recognizing that their work friendship wasn’t real at all.

Eva and Jason put their professional diversity, equity and inclusion chops to the test in this series of fun, intentional and sometimes difficult conversations.

In Pursuit of ..‪.‬ Eva Vega-Olds and Jason Sirois

    • Society & Culture
    • 5.0 • 9 Ratings

Wondering how to deepen your friendships and other relationships through an antiracism lens? Listen as two friends choose to take on the cross racial work of racial healing after recognizing that their work friendship wasn’t real at all.

Eva and Jason put their professional diversity, equity and inclusion chops to the test in this series of fun, intentional and sometimes difficult conversations.

    S2 E6 (Part 2 of 2) Anti-racist Relationships Among BIPOC: A Continued Conversation with Dr. Keba M. Rogers

    S2 E6 (Part 2 of 2) Anti-racist Relationships Among BIPOC: A Continued Conversation with Dr. Keba M. Rogers

    Dr. Keba M. Rogers continues to share her perspective on antiracist and liberatory relationships with a focus on leveling up to excellence, setting boundaries, and letting people be who they are rather than who we want them to be. Eva and Jason close out with their take-aways from this important conversation.

    • 49 min
    S2 E6 (Part 1 of 2) Anti-racist Relationships Among BIPOC: A Conversation with Dr. Keba M. Rogers

    S2 E6 (Part 1 of 2) Anti-racist Relationships Among BIPOC: A Conversation with Dr. Keba M. Rogers

    Eva and Jason close out season 2 with Dr. Keba M. Rogers talking about anti-racist and liberatory relationships among BIPOC folks. Authenticity, valuing humanity over "time," and challenging internalized racism are just a few of the important topics that are covered in part 1 of this episode.

    • 42 min
    S2 E5 (Part 3 of 3) Anti-racist Relationships Among Friends and Colleagues: A Reflection

    S2 E5 (Part 3 of 3) Anti-racist Relationships Among Friends and Colleagues: A Reflection

    Eva and Jason reflect on their takeaways from their conversation with Cardozie and Erin, including the implications of Jason saying he “does this work.”

    • 24 min
    S2 E5 (Part 2 of 3) Anti-racist Relationships Among Friends and Colleagues: A Continued Conversation with Cardozie Jones and Erin Dunlevy

    S2 E5 (Part 2 of 3) Anti-racist Relationships Among Friends and Colleagues: A Continued Conversation with Cardozie Jones and Erin Dunlevy

    Eva and Jason continue the conversation with Cardozie and Erin to discuss elephants, colonialism, mistakes made, and ways that friendship can be a form of freedom. 

    • 34 min
    S2 E5 (Part 1 of 3) Anti-racist Relationships Among Friends and Colleagues: A Conversation with Cardozie Jones and Erin Dunlevy

    S2 E5 (Part 1 of 3) Anti-racist Relationships Among Friends and Colleagues: A Conversation with Cardozie Jones and Erin Dunlevy

    Eva and Jason jump right in with friends and colleagues Cardozie Jones and Erin Dunlevy to explore the need for boundaries, ways to nurture friendships and how “over-relating” can be a red flag for new cross-racial relationships.

    • 35 min
    S2 E4 (Part 2 of 2): Anti-racist Relationships in the Family: A Continued Conversation with Perri Chandler

    S2 E4 (Part 2 of 2): Anti-racist Relationships in the Family: A Continued Conversation with Perri Chandler

    Building off of Part 1, Perri opens up to Eva and Jason about a lot, including the difference between "challenging" vs. "addressing," developing trust to be in relationship through the struggles, and what self care looks like for her. She also talks about when she uses the phrase, “It’s not for you.” 

    • 34 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
9 Ratings

9 Ratings

AB236188 ,

Singular

Not sure I’ve heard a cross-racial dialog quite this open, well articulated and coming from such a place of love. Grateful to them both for making this offering to the world.

All Ears in New York ,

Enjoyable and Eye-Opening

Such interesting, eye-opening conversation. The episodes fly by, and I’ve learned valuable things I didn’t know I didn’t know.

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