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If you want to learn the most current and powerful sales techniques and mindsets from the top professionals in the business, In The Arena is the place to find them. Host Anthony Iannarino is himself a successful and consummate sales professional with the know-how and experience to coach you on your way. But more than that he interviews the top authors, salesmen, sales managers, and experts in the fields of B2B and B2C sales to give you the edge you need to move your numbers and profit to the next level. In the Arena is for you. Find out more at https://thesalesblog.com

In the Arena Anthony Iannarino

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If you want to learn the most current and powerful sales techniques and mindsets from the top professionals in the business, In The Arena is the place to find them. Host Anthony Iannarino is himself a successful and consummate sales professional with the know-how and experience to coach you on your way. But more than that he interviews the top authors, salesmen, sales managers, and experts in the fields of B2B and B2C sales to give you the edge you need to move your numbers and profit to the next level. In the Arena is for you. Find out more at https://thesalesblog.com

    Questions about the Level 4 Value Creation Approach to Sales

    Questions about the Level 4 Value Creation Approach to Sales

    Anthony:  All right. So here we are, in the arena, different kind of in the arena, now not interviewing a guest but being interviewed by Beth, who's going to ask me some questions that we get frequently about Eat Their Lunch and Level Four Value Creation and my general approach to sales, which is different and does cause people to question what I'm saying and what we think they should be doing. So, let's go ahead and get started talking about some of the questions and how we can help people think about this so that they can sell in a what I would call, the 21st century way of selling. It's a new time and the evolution of sales means that things just keep getting trickier, so you got to keep pace here.

    Beth:  Yeah, it's really true. We get a lot of questions. The one I think you get a lot is about your approach you recommended at Eat Their Lunch. We talk a lot about the creating value and the four levels, so maybe the best place to start just everyone has context is what are the four levels of value and really why should people even care about this idea?Win customers away from your competition. Check out Eat Their Lunch



    Anthony: Well, they should care because I wrote it in a book but, no, the thing about the four levels that was interesting to me as I was trying to find some way to explain to people how you approach sales tends to fall into one of four categories. And some people who over index on results, they just produce better results, they tend to start from one side of the conversation and somebody else starts from the other side. So the four levels generally fall into categories like this. Level one means, I'm an account on my company's history and my product. That's what's going to do the selling for me. I'm not the value proposition, I'm not the value creator, you've got to trust that my good company that's been around for all these years is what's going to create value for you and our products and services are going to create value for you and look at this proof.

    Anthony: I can even show you logos and big companies just like yours. And level one ultimately means you're going to be perceived as a commodity because of it's just the product and there's nothing more to it. Then I'm going to look for price because there's nothing else to look at and evaluate. Level two means you have a good experience, which means great support, great service. You sold me your product and you also gave me a whole bunch of problems when I have that and I need somebody to help me with that, and I may even have a contract to have certain support, and it's a level up from level one. So you're at level two, but level two includes level one. So you can't be like, "We're really good at support but our product's still terrible and it won't work for you." You need both of those together to get to level two.

    Anthony: Level three is where we've been commoditized for, I'm going to say probably 30 years. So I can create a tangible result for you and my competitors can. And I have an ROI calculator and you have an ROI calculator and we both can turn it into a spreadsheet. And what I would call level three now is reactives. You tell me you have a problem, I'll solve it for you. That's different. It's not like level four at all because you're assuming that I can go in and say, "What's keeping you up at night?" And get your dissatisfaction and solve that for you. But everybody does that. So now that level of value, even though it's the third highest level of value that we can see right now, is still commoditized. So it's still not enough for you to be differentiated. Not Easily anyway.

    Anthony: Level four is strategic and it means that you're going to enter into a conversation about what's the strategic outcome. And I love this quote from Theodore Levitt from Harvard Business School. He was a marketing professor there and he said, "People don't b

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    Mike Weinberg on #SalesTruth – Episode #132

    Mike Weinberg on #SalesTruth – Episode #132

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    There's a reason that Anthony and Mike have been friends for almost a decade, co-founded the OutBound Conference together, and have written the foreward for 3 of each other's 6 books. They share a passion for helping salespeople learn the truths about selling, even when those truths may be unpopular or require more work.

    On this episode of In the Arena, Anthony and Mike debunk myths and present truth in the areas of social selling, sales motivation, prospecting, and time management, and discuss how the principles in Mike's latest book, #SalesTruth, can help you win more new sales.

    What compelled Mike Weinberg to write his new book, #SalesTruth, was that what he was reading online about how to succeed in sales did not align with what he saw in real companies across the globe. Hear more on this episode of In the Arena.Click To Tweet



    Kylie Jenner Didn't Cold Call Her Way to a Billion Dollars in Net Worth

    The chief sales officer of a well known social selling firm took a selfie, standing in front of a Forbes magazine with Kyle Jenner on the front cover, and declared that social selling leads to real sales. These are the kind of myths that are being sold to weaker, more gullible salespeople looking for a quick fix. It's easy to believe that you can get deals without having to pick up the phone, but it's just not the truth. Drawing from his many years' of experience in B2B sales, Mike talks to Anthony about what salespeople can do to connect with their dream clients beginning with the first sales call.

    In this conversation, Mike recalls the sales fundamentals that have proven to be successful whether he was selling envelopes and prints or plastic parts. Be sure to listen to see if your sales strategy includes any of his powerful principles.



    Prospecting is Not Optional

    Top salespeople are always prospecting, but Anthony and Mike discuss how some salespeople are under the impression that they don't have to prospect. They think they can leave the work of prospecting and qualifying to account managers, but the job of a sales executive is to sell, and you cannot sell without prospecting. The truth is, when your funnel is full, you sell smarter.

    Mike tells about how he trains his sales teams to reach out to dream clients before they are zero percent through the buying process. He suggests practical ways to make sure you are constantly adding to your funnel, and how you can avoid the distractions to which many salespeople fall prey. This conversation is full of practical questions you can ask yourself to make sure you are being productive when it comes to prospecting. Be sure you listen and take notes.

    'The only thing that will inoculate you from a bad outcome is a pipeline.' Anthony talks with Mike Weinberg about his new book, #SalesTruth on this episode of In the Arena. Listen now!Click To Tweet



    Ignore Your Hot Deals

    Many times, salespeople can be so anxious to close deals, they default to service work, but in Mike's book, #SalesTruth, he flips that idea on it's head. His advice? Ignore your hot deals, at least at the beginning of the day. Beginning the work day with the hardest work - opportunity creation, prospecting, cold-targeting - frees up the rest of the day to do the service work that needs to be done, and play with warmer opportunities. Mike believes you should turn the funnel upside down and work on the coldest items at the top of your funnel first. In this conversation, Anthony talks about the importance of spending the first 90 minutes of your day prospecting, and Mike says that the most effective leaders and the most productive salespeople extricate themselves from participating in things that are of low-value.

    'You'll never be opportunity starved if your best selling t

    Chris Hays from Zoominfo on Sales Development – Episode #131

    Chris Hays from Zoominfo on Sales Development – Episode #131

    Max Altschuler on Outreach and Prospecting Sequences – Episode #130

    Max Altschuler on Outreach and Prospecting Sequences – Episode #130

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    David Allen on the GTD Summit – Episode #129

    David Allen on the GTD Summit – Episode #129

    James Clear: The Powerful Story Behind One Of The Best Books On Habits – Episode #128

    James Clear: The Powerful Story Behind One Of The Best Books On Habits – Episode #128

    It’s a bit presumptuous to claim a book is one of the best books on habits that exist. There are lots of great books on the subject out there, including Charles Duhigg's seminal work, “The Power of Habit.” But Anthony is not shy about saying that his guest, James Clear has penned exactly that.



    James and Anthony share a common story: a debilitating brain injury that forced them to discover a new way of living. For James, his recovery took him to a new understanding of habits and the power of stacking simple, easy habits one on top of the other to create momentum and change. Bear that in mind, these are lessons James learned for himself rather than just information he consumed and regurgitated from the research of others.



    Maybe it’s not so presumptuous to say James’ work is one of the best books on habits. After all, he’s lived the story that has made it possible. Listen to hear his story, learn about the aggregation of habits, and how he recommends you apply what he’s learned to your own life.



    .@JamesClear describes the powerful story behind one of the best books on #habits, his own. It’s on this episode of #InTheArena with Anthony @Iannarino. #salesClick To Tweet

    One Of The Best Books On Habits Was Penned Because of a Tragic Circumstance

    As is the case with many of the significant things that are created in this world, James Clear’s book, “Atomic Habits” was birthed in the forge of suffering. A freak baseball accident put James in a desperate place, fighting to recover from brain damage.



    His journey out of that debilitating place led him to the realization that small, simple habits can be stacked one on top of the other to bring about incremental but powerful change.



    This is not a conversation with a theorist. James knows what he’s talking about - not only because he’s researched the topic, but because he’s lived it. Be sure you listen to hear his incredible story.

    Why Systems Trump Goals Every Time

    Anthony is the first to say that goals are important. But with the help of James’ book (and other resources) he’s come to see that they are not the most important thing. As James explains, goals are important because we have to know where we are headed but to focus on the destination to the exclusion of the actions that get us there is folly.



    James encourages those who are trying to accomplish goals to focus instead on building systems into their lives that naturally lead to the desired outcome or goal. That puts the focus where it rightly belongs - on doing rather than hoping.



    This conversation clarifies so many things when it comes to building habits - and it flows directly out of James’ book on the subject. Be sure you listen.



    Listen to learn why #systems trump #goals every time. @JamesClear speaks about the power of #habit on this episode of #InTheArena with Anthony @Iannarino. #salesClick To Tweet

    Transform Your Life By Casting Votes For Your Identity Every Day

    Habits are not formed by self-discipline or self-control alone. They have to be birthed from a deeper, more fundamental place. James Clear insists that if you don’t have a sense of identity tied to a habit, it will fall by the wayside sooner rather than later.



    For example, going to the gym for 5 minutes a day provides the basis for the reality that you are a person who goes to the gym. That’s the first baby step toward being the kind of person who makes use of the gym in productive ways. It’s an identity issue that you can take control of and master.



    In this conversation, James shares a handful of other examples to help you get your mind around why identity is foundational to establishing good habits.

    Get Rid of the Cues That Prompt Bad Habits and You Get Rid of the Habits

    Case in point: If you want to cut back on a habit of stopping into Dairy Queen for a soft-ser...

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