13 episodes

A podcast about how and why Black women aren't getting their green.

In The Gap is a 12-episode podcast series from In These Times magazine, exploring how the gender pay gap and pay discrimination affects the lives and livelihoods of Black women in the American workforce. Hosted and produced by award-winning veteran Black journalist Chandra Thomas Whitfield, episodes feature personal stories and insights from everyday Black women and experts alike.

In The Gap was created with the support of the Leonard C. Goodman Institute for Investigative Reporting and In These Times magazine.

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A podcast about how and why Black women aren't getting their green.

In The Gap is a 12-episode podcast series from In These Times magazine, exploring how the gender pay gap and pay discrimination affects the lives and livelihoods of Black women in the American workforce. Hosted and produced by award-winning veteran Black journalist Chandra Thomas Whitfield, episodes feature personal stories and insights from everyday Black women and experts alike.

In The Gap was created with the support of the Leonard C. Goodman Institute for Investigative Reporting and In These Times magazine.

    Welcome to In The Gap

    Welcome to In The Gap

    The statistics are clear: Black women in the American workforce are typically paid 62 cents on the dollar compared with white, non-Hispanic men. It’s a harsh reality to face on paper; it’s even harder in real life—especially when you uncover it by accident. In our inaugural episode, engineer Aja reflects on her heartbreaking discovery that a white male co-worker made an entire salary more than her for the exact same job—which she had been doing longer. But the biggest toll? Psychological. In The Gap host and producer Chandra Thomas Whitfield also reflects on what to expect from this, her inaugural podcast series.
    To view a full transcript of this episode, visit www.inthesetimes.com/inthegap.
    In The Gap was created with the support of the Leonard C. Goodman Institute for Investigative Reporting and In These Times magazine.
    Contact the show at podcast@inthesetimes.com.

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    Roots

    Roots

    Center for American Progress researcher Jocelyn Frye reflects on how the gender pay gap and gender pay discrimination persists today—and its historic roots, from slavery to segregation.
    To view a full transcript of this episode, visit www.inthesetimes.com/inthegap.
    In The Gap was created with the support of the Leonard C. Goodman Institute for Investigative Reporting and In These Times magazine.
    Contact the show at podcast@inthesetimes.com.

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    The Motherhood Penalty, Part 1

    The Motherhood Penalty, Part 1

    Working mothers, especially Black mothers, face systemic disadvantages in the workplace more often than their childless female counterparts—in terms of pay, perceived competence, benefits and opportunities for advancement. In this episode, mom and nonprofit worker Brandyn shares her heart-wrenching experience of not one, but two, incidents of what she believes was pregnancy discrimination—with two different employers—during the same debilitating high-risk pregnancy.
    To view a full transcript of this episode, visit www.inthesetimes.com/inthegap.
    In The Gap was created with the support of the Leonard C. Goodman Institute for Investigative Reporting and In These Times magazine.
    Contact the show at podcast@inthesetimes.com.

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    The Motherhood Penalty, Part 2: Parenting Discrimination

    The Motherhood Penalty, Part 2: Parenting Discrimination

    After pregnancy comes parenthood, and the research shows women, more than male partners, are disproportionately burdened with balancing careers against household and child-rearing duties. Women are also more likely to take time away from the workforce or reduce their hours to do so. In this episode, veteran hospitality worker Tam describes her experience paying her dues and working her way up to management, only to be treated by her employer as if her pregnancy and subsequent single parenthood were one big inconvenience worthy of admonishment. Tam also discusses why she pursued a racial and gender discrimination lawsuit against a second employer, only to feel forced into a $30,000 pay cut—and that was before the Covid-19 challenges.
    Due to the pandemic, this interview was recorded by Zoom and/or phone. To view a full transcript of this episode, visit www.inthesetimes.com/inthegap. 
    In The Gap was created with the support of the Leonard C. Goodman Institute for Investigative Reporting and In These Times magazine.
    Contact the show at podcast@inthesetimes.com.

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    Blue-Collar Blues Discrimination

    Blue-Collar Blues Discrimination

    Veteran retail worker J., a mom of three and caretaker to her elderly dad, shares her experience battling negative stereotypes in the workplace. This episode also explores how discrimination often locks Black women out of opportunities for advancement, such as promotions and pay raises, contributing to the gender pay gap and adversely impacting the families that Black women often lead alone, with little or no financial support from a spouse or partner.
    To view a full transcript of this episode, visit www.inthesetimes.com/inthegap.
    In The Gap was created with the support of the Leonard C. Goodman Institute for Investigative Reporting and In These Times magazine.
    Contact the show at podcast@inthesetimes.com.

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    Black-enomics

    Black-enomics

    Julianne Malveaux—an MIT-trained labor economist, social commentator and former president of Bennett College, the oldest historically Black college for women in the country—recounts the longstanding factors that often contribute to Black women feeling “stuck.” From being overburdened with financial and personal obligations to family and student loan debt to nonexistent generational wealth and limited access to financial education opportunities, the cycle of economic instability can seem endless.
    To view a full transcript of this episode, visit www.inthesetimes.com/inthegap.
    In The Gap was created with the support of the Leonard C. Goodman Institute for Investigative Reporting and In These Times magazine.
    Contact the show at podcast@inthesetimes.com.

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Customer Reviews

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6 Ratings

6 Ratings

KC from DSM ,

Informative

I listened to the episode on pay transparency and really found the guests and the quality of Chandra’s interview style to be very good and very informative. Chandra is a very good listener who asks smart questions and occasionally empathizes with her guests by mentioning her own experiences, but unlike a lot of other podcast hosts I listen to, she keeps the focus on her main topic and her very smart guests. I’ll definitely listen to some more.

RhythmicDNA ,

Statistics Brought to Life

This show brings the statistics to life and reveals how these issues play out in real life. It’s one thing to hear numbers, but it is another to hear real humans talk about how inequality impacts their real life.

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