13 episodes

A podcast about how and why Black women aren't getting their green.

In The Gap is a 12-episode podcast series from In These Times magazine, exploring how the gender pay gap and pay discrimination affects the lives and livelihoods of Black women in the American workforce. Hosted and produced by award-winning veteran Black journalist Chandra Thomas Whitfield, episodes feature personal stories and insights from everyday Black women and experts alike.

In The Gap was created with the support of the Leonard C. Goodman Institute for Investigative Reporting and In These Times magazine.

In The Gap Chandra Thomas Whitfield

    • Society & Culture
    • 5.0 • 7 Ratings

A podcast about how and why Black women aren't getting their green.

In The Gap is a 12-episode podcast series from In These Times magazine, exploring how the gender pay gap and pay discrimination affects the lives and livelihoods of Black women in the American workforce. Hosted and produced by award-winning veteran Black journalist Chandra Thomas Whitfield, episodes feature personal stories and insights from everyday Black women and experts alike.

In The Gap was created with the support of the Leonard C. Goodman Institute for Investigative Reporting and In These Times magazine.

    In The Gap Podcast Overview by journalist Chandra Thomas Whitfield

    In The Gap Podcast Overview by journalist Chandra Thomas Whitfield

    Here's the overview of the podcast series "In The Gap by journalist Chandra Thomas Whitfield," a 2019-20 Leonard C. Goodman Institute for Investigative Reporting. It's a podcast about how and why Black women aren't getting paid equally at work in America. Black women get paid 62 cents for every dollar paid to white, non-hispanic men. #BlackWomensLivelihoodsMatter #EqualPayDay #GenderPayGap #BlackWomensLivelihoodsMatter

    • 1 min
    Reflections

    Reflections

    In The Gap host and producer, award-winning multimedia journalist Chandra Thomas Whitfield, is interviewed by In These Times magazine Executive Editor Jessica Stites, reflecting on what Whitfield has learned and what she hopes listeners will walk away with from her inaugural podcast, including the backstory, behind-the-scenes details, final thoughts, aha moments and what she hopes is to come for Black women and the fight for equal pay.
    To view a full transcript of this episode, visit www.inthesetimes.com/inthegap.
    In The Gap was created with the support of the Leonard C. Goodman Institute for Investigative Reporting and In These Times magazine.
    Contact the show at podcast@inthesetimes.com.

    • 30 min
    Dream Yourself Free

    Dream Yourself Free

    “Rest as resistance?” Womanist scholar and community organizer EbonyJanice Moore continues the history lesson and shares her perspective on internal empowerment, the shifts she says Black women should consider making deep within their hearts and minds, to break free from the mental and psychological bondage imposed by racialized trauma and stereotypes in the American labor force.
    Due to the pandemic, this interview was recorded by Zoom and/or phone. To view a full transcript of this episode, visit www.inthesetimes.com/inthegap.
    In The Gap was created with the support of the Leonard C. Goodman Institute for Investigative Reporting and In These Times magazine.
    Contact the show at podcast@inthesetimes.com.

    • 21 min
    Union Unity

    Union Unity

    Veteran barista Hiwot Fekadu speaks about her personal experience at Starbucks—one of the locations highlighted by a national union survey that found Black baristas were routinely paid less than their white counterparts at certain locations of the coffee chain. Then, Gayle Hamilton, Interim Director of Labor@Wayne (located at Wayne State University in Detroit), recounts the role of labor unions, often led by Black women, in improving the lives of women and other disenfranchised groups in the American workforce.
    Due to the pandemic, this interview was recorded by Zoom and/or phone. To view a full transcript of this episode, visit www.inthesetimes.com/inthegap.
    In The Gap was created with the support of the Leonard C. Goodman Institute for Investigative Reporting and In These Times magazine.
    Contact the show at podcast@inthesetimes.com.

    • 31 min
    In the Name of the Law

    In the Name of the Law

    Can I sue? When to sue? How to sue? And more importantly, should I sue? Many Black women struggle with those questions even after they’ve fallen prey to racial and gender-based pay discrimination. In this episode, Manhattan attorney and law firm partner Lisa Alexis Jones, who has won and settled multiple pay discrimination cases, outlines factors to consider when debating legal action.
    Due to the pandemic, this interview was recorded by Zoom and/or phone. To view a full transcript of this episode, visit www.inthesetimes.com/inthegap.
    In The Gap was created with the support of the Leonard C. Goodman Institute for Investigative Reporting and In These Times magazine.
    Contact the show at podcast@inthesetimes.com.

    • 24 min
    Pay Transparency

    Pay Transparency

    It’s hard to demand fair pay when you don’t actually know you’re being underpaid. Data engineer Megan shares her eye-opening and humbling experience with the practice of pay transparency on the job and explains how it ultimately empowered her at the negotiation table. Newly elected New York Guild President Susan DeCarava speaks on the importance of taking collective action against pay discrimination, and how pay transparency benefits everyone in the workplace, especially Black women.
    Due to the pandemic, this interview was recorded by Zoom and/or phone. To view a full transcript of this episode, visit www.inthesetimes.com/inthegap. 
    In The Gap was created with the support of the Leonard C. Goodman Institute for Investigative Reporting and In These Times magazine.
    Contact the show at podcast@inthesetimes.com.

    • 43 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
7 Ratings

7 Ratings

KC from DSM ,

Informative

I listened to the episode on pay transparency and really found the guests and the quality of Chandra’s interview style to be very good and very informative. Chandra is a very good listener who asks smart questions and occasionally empathizes with her guests by mentioning her own experiences, but unlike a lot of other podcast hosts I listen to, she keeps the focus on her main topic and her very smart guests. I’ll definitely listen to some more.

RhythmicDNA ,

Statistics Brought to Life

This show brings the statistics to life and reveals how these issues play out in real life. It’s one thing to hear numbers, but it is another to hear real humans talk about how inequality impacts their real life.

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