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In the Kitchen with Bret Thorn is a bi-monthly podcast from Restaurant Hospitality, a sister publication of Nation’s Restaurant News. In the Kitchen features senior food and beverage editor Bret Thorn, who talks with the most innovative chefs at independent restaurants from across the country, discussing their latest menu items, business innovations, trends, and what’s next for culinary experts.

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In the Kitchen with Bret Thorn is a bi-monthly podcast from Restaurant Hospitality, a sister publication of Nation’s Restaurant News. In the Kitchen features senior food and beverage editor Bret Thorn, who talks with the most innovative chefs at independent restaurants from across the country, discussing their latest menu items, business innovations, trends, and what’s next for culinary experts.

    Alex Curley of Palacios Murphy provides insight into running seasonal restaurants

    Alex Curley of Palacios Murphy provides insight into running seasonal restaurants

    Alex Curley is chief operating officer of Palacios Murphy, a Houston-based restaurant company that got its start with Armandos, a 43-year-old restaurant that occupies the unique niche of serving Tex-Mex food in a fine-dining setting. Apart from opening a couple of restaurants in the village of Round Top, Texas, midway between Houston and Austin, Armandos’ owners basically stuck to the business of running that local culinary institution.
    But in the aftermath of the pandemic, they started to explore new possibilities. Now they operate Hotel Lulu in Round Top as well as Italian concept Lulu’s, casual Tex-Mex restaurant Mandito’s, and Popi Burger which serving burgers and sandwiches.
    Heading up operations is Alex Curley, who joined the group after a career of working in multiconcept groups including Southern Proper Hospitality and Richard Sandoval Restaurants.
    Curley recently discussed the evolution of Palacios Murphy, which now centers a lot of its activity around Round Top, and how to run successful businesses 365 days a year in a town that really only comes to life during festivals.

    • 37 min
    Chef Gayle Pirie of Foreign Cinema in San Francisco strives to create a haven from daily troubles

    Chef Gayle Pirie of Foreign Cinema in San Francisco strives to create a haven from daily troubles

    Gayle Pirie is the chef and partner, with John Clark, of Foreign Cinema, a dining institution in San Francisco’s Mission District that has been nourishing its guests with Mediterranean-inspired California cuisine, as well as with movies projected on the restaurant’s wall, for the past 25 years.
    She grew up in San Francisco and funded her ambitions as an oil painting artist by cooking. From 1985 to 1993 she worked with her mentor, Judy Rogers, at Zuni Café, and then went on to launch a restaurant consulting practice. That was followed by work with Alice Waters at Chez Panisse in Berkeley, Calif., as her personal assistant. She joined Clark at Foreign Cinema in 2001.
    Pirie takes her role as a “restaurateur” seriously. The word is French for “someone who restores,” and she does that by fostering the success of her employees, local producers, and her community as well her guests.
    She is also a pioneer in sustainability practices, including her recent adoption of oil from Spotlight Foods, headquartered not far away in Alameda, Calif., that is derived from algae.
    Pirie recently discussed this new oil as well as her approach to running her restaurant and her plans for the future.

    • 35 min
    Julia Zhu prepares for the opening of the first U.S. location of Grandma’s Home

    Julia Zhu prepares for the opening of the first U.S. location of Grandma’s Home

    Julia Zhu is the managing partner for the United States of Grandma’s Home, a chain with more than 200 locations in 60 cities in China, and with its first U.S. location opening soon in New York City’s Flatiron neighborhood.
    Zhu is the daughter of one of the founder’s of the chain and she’s heading up the opening.
    She was born in Hangzhou, capital of Zhejiang province in China and a city whose cuisine hasn’t been seen much in the United States. Zhu moved to the U.S. at the age of 15 and said she’s looking forward to showcasing the food that she grew up eating and that is hard to find here.
    Neither Hangzhou nor its cuisine are well known in the United States, but it is an ancient and beloved city, known for its scenic West Lake and general beauty. In fact, there’s a Chinese saying: “The sky has heaven, the earth has Suzhou and Hangzhou,” Suzhou being another ancient city known for its gardens the next province up in Jiangsu.
    Marco Polo reportedly said that Hangzhou was the finest city in the world.
    Zhu discussed the cuisine of her hometown and her plans for the New York City restaurant.

    • 32 min
    Ameneh Marhaba to debut a brick-and-mortar version of Little Liberia in Detroit

    Ameneh Marhaba to debut a brick-and-mortar version of Little Liberia in Detroit

    Ameneh Marhaba is doing her part to spread the love of West African food in Detroit.
    Born in the West African country of Liberia, she grew up in that country, where her mother is form, as well as Lebanon, her father’s home country, before she, her dad, and siblings moved to Detroit when she was around 15.
    Having always loved the food she grew up on, she wanted to share it with others in her new home. She thought of launching a food truck but soon learned that she was priced out of such a venture, so instead she started going to bars, offering to cook and sell items like jollof rice, fried plantains, and spiced meat skewers.
    It turns out that the bars were receptive to the idea.
    “Most of them were really nice about it,” she said.
    So in 2016 she started doing pop-ups at those bars under the name Little Liberia. Over time, her efforts grew into catering gigs and one-off seated dinners.
    Now, with the help of Hatch Detroit by TechTown, which awarded her $100,000 in a competition with some 350 other small business, Marhaba is getting ready to open Little Liberia as a brick-and-mortar restaurant.
    She recently discussed her journey and her plans for the restaurant.

    • 36 min
    Johnny Spero gets ready to reopen Reverie in Washington, D.C.

    Johnny Spero gets ready to reopen Reverie in Washington, D.C.

    Johnny Spero has been cooking for pretty much his whole life, and he has been running his own restaurants since he opened Reverie in the Washington, D.C., neighborhood of Georgetown in 2018. The intimate fine-dining restaurant took its lumps over the course of the pandemic, but it was done in by a fire in August of 2022, from which nothing but memories was salvaged.
    Spero already had established himself as a big-name chef: When he was executive chef of José Andrés’s Minibar in D.C., Washington Post critic Tom Sietsema had given the restaurant a four-star review and the local eater.com declared him “Chef of the Year.” He also competed in the Netflix show, The Final Table.
    Before the fire, Reverie had been granted a Michelin star.
    He also had another restaurant, the more casual Bar Spero inspired by the time he spent in Spain’s Basque country, including a stage at the much lauded Mugaritz. But as he tried to pick up the pieces from the fire, and planned to reopen Reverie, Spero took the time to travel the world, doing collaborative pop-ups and continuing to learn how operators from around the world ran their own restaurants, sourced their food, and worked to make their own corners of globe a better place.
    Reverie is about to reopen — its debut is slated for late February — and Spero recently discussed what he has learned since the fire, and what his plans are for the future.
    Contact Bret Thorn at bret.thorn@informa.com 

    • 42 min
    Lane Li shares her journey from Smorgasburg to brick-and-mortar restaurant

    Lane Li shares her journey from Smorgasburg to brick-and-mortar restaurant

    Lane Li is the chef and owner of Noodle Lane, which opened earlier this year in the Brooklyn, N.Y., neighborhood of Park Slope. Li was born in China but her family immigrated to New York City, where they already had relatives, when she was a child. She worked in finance for many years before her love for food led her to set up a stand at the weekly open-air food festival Smorgasburg. Her dan dan noodles in particular were a big success, and she decided to open a brick-and-mortar restaurant near her home.
    It will be a surprise to no one in the industry that opening Noodle Lane was a lot harder than Li expected, but she persevered and is now serving dumplings (including soup dumplings because they’re her son’s favorite), noodles, stir-fried dishes, stews and more for lunch and dinner, with brunch coming soon.
    Li recently shared her experience of opening her first restaurant, the challenges she faced, and advice for other new restaurateurs.

    • 34 min

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I worked the real estate site selector for the Fazolis franchisee in Phoenix. They left the valley. They owned all of their real estate and converted the buildings to other restaurant and retail uses. They had some of the highest Fazoli industry sales in the valley, but the francisee succesion plan was not in favor of contining in the restaurant industry.

I also represent Noodles & Co in the valley. They too had the stigma of high carb menu. Adding Zoodles to the menu produced positive results. Like most QSR-adding drive thru is a strong element in capturing sales.

A bit disconcerting was Carl Howard's comment on the major decline in instore dining. I don't plan on dining in higher end brands. But I think he was refering to all dining including QSR, fast casual, and casual dining. Some of the cleaning procedures while dining have been off putting.I feel like I am in a hospital cafeteria.

Kudos to Fazoli's and Carl Howard. Loved the podcast

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