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This is Industry Relations, a podcast that is at the intersection of real estate and technology from an insider’s perspective. Hosted weekly by Rob Hahn (The Notorious ROB) and Greg Robertson.

Industry Relations Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson

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    • 4.9 • 33 Ratings

This is Industry Relations, a podcast that is at the intersection of real estate and technology from an insider’s perspective. Hosted weekly by Rob Hahn (The Notorious ROB) and Greg Robertson.

    The NAR Settlement: The Good, the Bad, and the Unknown

    The NAR Settlement: The Good, the Bad, and the Unknown

    What will the recent NAR settlement mean for the future of real estate, technology, and industry navigation? In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the outcomes of the recent NAR settlement. They provide insights on the agreement, exploring their reactions and perspectives on the settlement's details. From provisions to backlash, they discuss public perception, legal frameworks, and implications for agents, brokers, and the market. During the discussion, Rob and Greg also disagree with one another at times, and fight like a married couple. After this episode discussing the NAR lawsuit, yet again, should the guys take a break and do a movie review of Dune 2? Grab your sandworm buckets and tune in!
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    • 1 hr
    A Multi-Million Dollar Settlement: Unpacking NAR's Landmark Deal with the DOJ

    A Multi-Million Dollar Settlement: Unpacking NAR's Landmark Deal with the DOJ

    Tune in to this must-listen episode of *Industry Relations* for an incisive breakdown of the NAR's landmark settlement, its ramifications, and the many lingering questions that promise to shape the discourse in real estate circles for years to come. Whether you're a real estate professional, an industry watcher, or just keen on understanding the forces shaping one of the economy's key sectors, this episode is for you.
    In a pivotal episode of Industry Relations, hosts Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson dive deep into a recent seismic shift within the real estate horizon—The National Association of Realtors (NAR)'s $418 million settlement with the plaintiffs’ attorneys. A settlement like this is more than a headline; it's a precedent setter with far-reaching implications for every corner of the real estate world.
    From referral networks and real estate portals to association-owned MLSs (and notably excluding non-association-owned MLSs), no stone is left unturned as Rob and Greg unpack the nuances of the settlement. With the DOJ's likely oversight and approval, the proposed settlement not only closes a chapter, but opens a discussion on the enforcement of regulations and the reinforcement of NAR membership. How will these changes ripple through the industry? What does this mean for unrepresented buyers in an increasingly opaque MLS landscape? And could this herald a new era of changes and MLS practices?
    Beyond the settlement itself, this episode explores the broader implications for the real estate industry, including potential shifts in steering practices and the access to information on MLS platforms. As Rob and Greg navigate through these complex topics, they shed light on what the future may hold for realtors, MLSs, and the consumers they serve.
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    This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

    • 42 min
    Is the Real Estate Industry Getting Their Mojo Back?

    Is the Real Estate Industry Getting Their Mojo Back?

    What does the future hold for real estate commissions? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the Clarity event and the legal updates regarding real estate commissions. They explore the concept of concessions and the issue of steering in the industry, the need for improved buyer agency agreements and buyer presentations and the defiance of industry professionals and the potential impact of government regulations on real estate commissions. Rob and Greg also cover various topics related to the real estate industry, including the myth of the Australian model, the reality of real estate commissions, the relationship between MLS and NAR, and provide potential solutions to the numerous challenges and complexities of these issues. Oh, and they also brainstorm the idea of creating an app for arranged marriages called 'Tinder for Parents.' You don’t want to miss this episode!
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    This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

    • 48 min
    Does NAR have a competence problem?

    Does NAR have a competence problem?

    Who bears the brunt of legal defense costs? What financial toll does this uncertainty cast on associations? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dive into the pressing issues faced by the National Association of Realtors (NAR) and its profound impact on local associations, MLSs and brokers. The insurance dilemma that has recently come to light, along with the unclear communication and lack of transparency from NAR is concerning to put it mildly.
    And the conversation doesn't stop at insurance mishaps. Rob and Greg confront the broader issue plaguing the real estate industry - a competency crisis within NAR’s leadership. They share their personal frustrations and the collective agitation among realtors over how NAR has managed various crises, including a lawsuit with the Department of Justice and serious sexual harassment allegations.
    The lack of skilled leadership, effective communication, and crisis navigation has not only fueled discontent but has also positioned the industry under a harsh spotlight, inviting negative media attention and dozens of copycat lawsuits. This episode is a call for leaders who can confidently steer the industry away from turmoil and towards a future led by transparency, competence, and integrity.
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    This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

    • 52 min
    DOJ Drops Statement of Interest in the Nosalek Case

    DOJ Drops Statement of Interest in the Nosalek Case

    What impact will the Department of Justice's stance on the MLS settlement have on the future of buying and selling houses? In this important episode of "Industry Relations," Rob and Greg talk about a big message from the Department of Justice (DOJ) about the MLS settlement. The DOJ seems to want the court to say no to the settlement. Selling agents might not make as much money as before, and buyers agents might need to show why they're worth their commission more than ever. It's time to start thinking about how we can prepare for change and innovate new approaches in serving buyers and seller.
    Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms!
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    Connect with Rob and Greg: 
    Rob’s Website
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    Our Sponsors: 
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    This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

    • 58 min
    Super Bowl Ripples

    Super Bowl Ripples

    ultimate cost warrant the spotlight?
    On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss Homes.com's momentous marketing push running an ad during the most watched event in America – the Super Bowl. And its potential ripple effects on industry giants like Zillow.
    Rob and Greg also revisit the real estate industry's current legal battles.  The buzz around the Keller Williams settlement and with consolidation on the horizon, how will ongoing lawsuits reshape the future landscape for real estate professionals?
    Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms!
    Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page
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    Connect with Rob and Greg: 
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    Our Sponsors: 
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    This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

    • 51 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
33 Ratings

33 Ratings

Yoyomama99 ,

Never right

Seems they miss the point and their predictions are always off the mark. How about what can be done to renew NAR. Talk about the consumer in all this. NAR is a lobbying group mostly over the years protecting the consumer. The new group is a waste of energy. The industry needs a just and strong NAR. Improve it and support the industry. I’m not a member or an associate to the industry.

jo8k ,

Strong opinions, lightly held

Joined a proptech company back in the Fall and have been desperately searching for a real estate podcast with real opinions. That search is officially over and has ended with a couple of old genxers. These guys are great, highly recommend.

vainness ,

Intelligent

Binge listened to just about every episode! Love the interviews, nerdy humor & thought provoking dialogue. Hands down one of the best real estate podcasts. I wish we would implement this IRC-like ability to login to chat rooms to socialize w other real estate friends & colleagues, because of the Covid narrative . That concept was so nostalgic of my childhood :D

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