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This is Industry Relations, a podcast that is at the intersection of real estate and technology from an insider’s perspective. Hosted weekly by Rob Hahn (The Notorious ROB) and Greg Robertson.

Industry Relations Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson

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    • 4.9 • 33 Ratings

This is Industry Relations, a podcast that is at the intersection of real estate and technology from an insider’s perspective. Hosted weekly by Rob Hahn (The Notorious ROB) and Greg Robertson.

    Unpacking Pulte Group's Objection to the NAR Settlement

    Unpacking Pulte Group's Objection to the NAR Settlement

    Join Rob and Greg in this episode as they talk about the recent objection filed by Pulte Homes to the NAR settlements. Are they valid and will they make an impact? Also, what is Real Estate 3.0? Greg expands on what it means and how it will shift the roles of agents. Rob shares his insights from a recent panel he attended and what the potential for state regulators intervening in commission decoupling could mean for the industry. They also take a bit of a Q & A during this special livestream episode. #NARsettlement #RealEstate3.0
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    • 51 min
    NAR’s Continuing Legal Battles

    NAR’s Continuing Legal Battles

    Not one week goes by without some huge industry news surrounding NAR. In this episode, Rob ang Greg discuss the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals' reversal in the NAR vs. US lawsuit, paving way for a new probe in the wake of the pending commission lawsuit settlement. Rob and Greg explore the antitrust lawsuit's history, implications of the reversal, and how it aligns with their predictions for the industry and future of NAR.
     
    Greg talks about the NAR-DOJ agreement and potential political impacts, while Rob focuses on the long-term effects. The dynamic duo stress on focusing on industry practices, legal settlements, and progress.
     
    Rob and Greg also debate the CMLS and NWMLS amicus briefs on MLS practices, while illustrating the timing and what the industry is signaling. This episode is jam packed with industry insights.
     
    Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms!
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    This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

    • 54 min
    The NAR Settlement Part 2

    The NAR Settlement Part 2

    Did you catch the sparks fly on the last episode of Industry Relations? In case you missed it, last week Rob and Greg got into a verbal fistfight. Made up. Became friends again. And are now ready for round 2. 
     
    Rob and Greg continue their NAR settlement talk, post verbal tussle. Exploring NAR's $418 million settlement, they talk about the association's PR challenges, trust issues, and internal rifts. Questioning leadership and missed PR opportunities, they call for urgent reform.
     
    Facing a crucial crossroads, the industry risks becoming a societal scapegoat. Rob and Greg urge immediate action to rebuild trust, improve communication, and navigate public scrutiny. Highlighting the role of leadership in these turbulent times, stressing the need for effective communication. 
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    • 54 min
    The NAR Settlement: The Good, the Bad, and the Unknown

    The NAR Settlement: The Good, the Bad, and the Unknown

    What will the recent NAR settlement mean for the future of real estate, technology, and industry navigation? In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the outcomes of the recent NAR settlement. They provide insights on the agreement, exploring their reactions and perspectives on the settlement's details. From provisions to backlash, they discuss public perception, legal frameworks, and implications for agents, brokers, and the market. During the discussion, Rob and Greg also disagree with one another at times, and fight like a married couple. After this episode discussing the NAR lawsuit, yet again, should the guys take a break and do a movie review of Dune 2? Grab your sandworm buckets and tune in!
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    This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

    • 1 hr
    A Multi-Million Dollar Settlement: Unpacking NAR's Landmark Deal with the DOJ

    A Multi-Million Dollar Settlement: Unpacking NAR's Landmark Deal with the DOJ

    Tune in to this must-listen episode of *Industry Relations* for an incisive breakdown of the NAR's landmark settlement, its ramifications, and the many lingering questions that promise to shape the discourse in real estate circles for years to come. Whether you're a real estate professional, an industry watcher, or just keen on understanding the forces shaping one of the economy's key sectors, this episode is for you.
    In a pivotal episode of Industry Relations, hosts Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson dive deep into a recent seismic shift within the real estate horizon—The National Association of Realtors (NAR)'s $418 million settlement with the plaintiffs’ attorneys. A settlement like this is more than a headline; it's a precedent setter with far-reaching implications for every corner of the real estate world.
    From referral networks and real estate portals to association-owned MLSs (and notably excluding non-association-owned MLSs), no stone is left unturned as Rob and Greg unpack the nuances of the settlement. With the DOJ's likely oversight and approval, the proposed settlement not only closes a chapter, but opens a discussion on the enforcement of regulations and the reinforcement of NAR membership. How will these changes ripple through the industry? What does this mean for unrepresented buyers in an increasingly opaque MLS landscape? And could this herald a new era of changes and MLS practices?
    Beyond the settlement itself, this episode explores the broader implications for the real estate industry, including potential shifts in steering practices and the access to information on MLS platforms. As Rob and Greg navigate through these complex topics, they shed light on what the future may hold for realtors, MLSs, and the consumers they serve.
    Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms!
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    Connect with Rob and Greg: 
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    This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

    • 42 min
    Is the Real Estate Industry Getting Their Mojo Back?

    Is the Real Estate Industry Getting Their Mojo Back?

    What does the future hold for real estate commissions? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the Clarity event and the legal updates regarding real estate commissions. They explore the concept of concessions and the issue of steering in the industry, the need for improved buyer agency agreements and buyer presentations and the defiance of industry professionals and the potential impact of government regulations on real estate commissions. Rob and Greg also cover various topics related to the real estate industry, including the myth of the Australian model, the reality of real estate commissions, the relationship between MLS and NAR, and provide potential solutions to the numerous challenges and complexities of these issues. Oh, and they also brainstorm the idea of creating an app for arranged marriages called 'Tinder for Parents.' You don’t want to miss this episode!
    Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms!
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    Connect with Rob and Greg: 
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    This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

    • 48 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
33 Ratings

33 Ratings

Yoyomama99 ,

Never right

Seems they miss the point and their predictions are always off the mark. How about what can be done to renew NAR. Talk about the consumer in all this. NAR is a lobbying group mostly over the years protecting the consumer. The new group is a waste of energy. The industry needs a just and strong NAR. Improve it and support the industry. I’m not a member or an associate to the industry.

jo8k ,

Strong opinions, lightly held

Joined a proptech company back in the Fall and have been desperately searching for a real estate podcast with real opinions. That search is officially over and has ended with a couple of old genxers. These guys are great, highly recommend.

vainness ,

Intelligent

Binge listened to just about every episode! Love the interviews, nerdy humor & thought provoking dialogue. Hands down one of the best real estate podcasts. I wish we would implement this IRC-like ability to login to chat rooms to socialize w other real estate friends & colleagues, because of the Covid narrative . That concept was so nostalgic of my childhood :D

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