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Globally, 2 billion people work in the informal economy. This means that 61% of workers rely on work that offers little pay and few protections. Women informal workers, such as domestic workers, home-based workers, street vendors and waste pickers are at the base of the economic pyramid with the highest risk of poverty. Public policies and social protection schemes often do not consider these workers, leaving them vulnerable to income losses and struggling to cope after an event or shock. In this monthly podcast we will discuss some of the most pressing issues related to social protection from the perspective of informal workers, including debates around the future of work, demographic changes and the informal economy, as well as social services, like child care and health that can protect informal workers’ incomes. Subscribe to the “Informal Economy Podcast: Social Protection” to learn more about WIEGO’s cutting-edge research and hear from informal workers organisations about the debates, policies, successes and challenges they face in accessing and reforming social protection systems.

Informal Economy Podcast: Social Protection Wiego

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Globally, 2 billion people work in the informal economy. This means that 61% of workers rely on work that offers little pay and few protections. Women informal workers, such as domestic workers, home-based workers, street vendors and waste pickers are at the base of the economic pyramid with the highest risk of poverty. Public policies and social protection schemes often do not consider these workers, leaving them vulnerable to income losses and struggling to cope after an event or shock. In this monthly podcast we will discuss some of the most pressing issues related to social protection from the perspective of informal workers, including debates around the future of work, demographic changes and the informal economy, as well as social services, like child care and health that can protect informal workers’ incomes. Subscribe to the “Informal Economy Podcast: Social Protection” to learn more about WIEGO’s cutting-edge research and hear from informal workers organisations about the debates, policies, successes and challenges they face in accessing and reforming social protection systems.

    #11 Statistics, Social Protection and Informal Employment

    #11 Statistics, Social Protection and Informal Employment

    In the first episode of the year we will discuss numbers! Statistics are a powerful tool to shed light on the informal economy, and to make informal workers visible in policy arenas. In order to help us understand better the linkages between social protection and statistics, the challenges, limitations and the most recent research on the field we invite two special guests: Françoise Carré and Francie Lund.

    Françoise is the WIEGO’s Statistics Programme Director, and Research Director at the Center for Social Policy at the University of Massachusetts Boston. Françoise conducts research on work transformation and non-standard work in the USA and internationally. Francie is WIEGO Senior Advisor. She is also a Senior Research Associate in the School of Built Environment and Development Studies at the University of KwaZulu-Natal in Durban, South Africa.

    References
    ILO Women and Men in the Informal Economy Report 3rd edition (2018) https://www.ilo.org/global/publications/books/WCMS_626831/lang--en/index.htm

    ILO Women and Men in the Informal Economy Report 2nd edition (2013) https://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---dgreports/---stat/documents/publication/wcms_234413.pdf

    ILO Women and Men in the Informal Economy Report 2nd edition (2002)
    https://www.wiego.org/sites/default/files/migrated/publications/files/ILO-Women-Men-Informal-2002.pdf

    WIEGO-ILO Statistical Report https://www.wiego.org/ilo-wiego-statistical-reports

    Chains of Production, Ladders of Protection: Social Protection for Workers in the Informal Economy https://www.wiego.org/publications/chains-production-ladders-protection-social-protection-workers-informal-economy

    WIEGO page on the Statistics programme https://www.wiego.org/our-work-impact/core-programmes/statistics

    *Our theme music is Focus from AA Aalto (Creative Commons)

    • 30 min
    #10 The Future of Work and the Missing Middle

    #10 The Future of Work and the Missing Middle

    In this episode, we invited Christina Behrendt. Christina, head of the Social Policy Unit at the ILO, to talk about the relations between the Future of Work and the challenges to extend social protection to the so-called “missing middle”, the informal economy workers.
    We discussed how policies to provide social protection to informal workers can help the debate around forms of work associated to the so-called gig economy, and whether universal basic income might offer an alternative to this configuration of work.

    - ILO Global Social Protection Week Page: https://www.ilo.org/secsoc/information-resources/meetings-and-events/WCMS_715348/lang--en/index.htm

    - Global Social Protection Week Agenda https://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---ed_protect/---soc_sec/documents/publication/wcms_717366.pdf
    WIEGO’s page on the Global Social Protection Week: https://www.wiego.org/events/global-social-protection-week

    - WIEGO Briefing Note: “Extending Social Protection to Informal Workers” http://www.wiego.org/sites/default/files/publications/files/Social%20Protection%20Informal%20Workers%20for%20web_0.pdf

    - WIEGO Working Paper No 37: “Informal Workers & The Future of Work: A Defence of Work-Related Social Protection” , by Laura Alfers, Francie Lund and Rachel Moussié http://www.wiego.org/sites/default/files/publications/files/Alfers_Informal_Workers_Social_Protection_WIEGO_WP37.pdf

    - WIEGO position statement: “A Future of Work for All: WIEGO’s Position on the ILO Centenary” http://www.wiego.org/sites/default/files/resources/files/WIEGO%20Position%20on%20ILO%20Centenary%202019_06June.pdf

    - Blog: Informal workers and taxes: What "tax justice" looks like from below, by Mike Rogan https://www.wiego.org/blog/informal-workers-and-taxes-what-tax-justice-looks-below

    - Journal article: Ensuring universal social protection for the future of work by Christina Behrendt https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1024258919857031?af=R&ai=1gvoi&mi=3ricys

    - Innovative approaches for ensuring universal social protection for the future of work, by Christina Behrendt and Quynh Anh Nguyen https://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---dgreports/---cabinet/documents/publication/wcms_629864.pdf

    - ILO Social Protection Report (2017-2019): Universal social protection to achieve the Sustainable Development Goals https://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---dgreports/---dcomm/---publ/documents/publication/wcms_604882.pdf

    - World Bank: Universal health coverage and the challenge of informal employment : lessons from developing countries, by Ricardo Bitran http://www.wiego.org/publications/universal-health-coverage-and-challenge-informal-employment-lessons-developing-countrie

    - ILO Recommendation 202: Social Protection Floors https://www.ilo.org/secsoc/areas-of-work/legal-advice/WCMS_205341/lang--en/index.htm

    - ILO Recommendation 204: The Transition from the Informal to the Formal Economy https://www.ilo.org/ilc/ILCSessions/previous-sessions/104/texts-adopted/WCMS_377774/lang--en/index.htm

    *Our theme music is Focus from AA Aalto (Creative Commons)

    • 30 min
    #09b Protection Sociale pour les Travailleurs Informels au Togo

    #09b Protection Sociale pour les Travailleurs Informels au Togo

    Dans cet épisode, nous vous apportons un entretien avec Komi
    Kessouagni. Komi est le Coordinateur du Point Focal Régional StreetNet pour l'Afrique de l'Ouest et du Centre.
    On a parlé sur les défis des travailleurs informels au Togo pour avoir l’accès à la protection social, aussi bien comme les initiatives des travailleurs eux-mêmes, pour offrir des services de soins à ceux qui ne sont pas couvert par l’état, à travers de la création de mutuelles de santé géré par les travailleurs.

    Note d’information de WIEGO : Extension de la protection sociale aux travailleurs et travailleuses de l’informel https://www.wiego.org/sites/default/files/migrated/publications/files/Social%2520Protection%2520Informal%2520Workers%2520French%2520for%2520web.pdf

    Notre musique thématique est Focus, de A. A. Aalto (Creative Commons)

    • 18 min
    #09 Social Protection For Informal Workers in Togo

    #09 Social Protection For Informal Workers in Togo

    In this episode, we bring you an interview with Liliane Napoe, of the Danish Trade Union Development Agency. Liliane is the International Adviser and Head of the West African sub-regional office, based in Lomé, where she has been supporting informal workers in their effort to expand social protection and in their attempt to form a coalition to push for social rights for informal workers.
    We talked about the struggle of informal workers in Togo to have access to social protection, the latest development in the country and the perspectives ahead for this informal workers coalition that is forming around the demand for social protection provision.

    WIEGO Briefing note: Extending Social Protection to Informal Workers https://www.wiego.org/sites/default/files/migrated/publications/files/Social%2520Protection%2520Informal%2520Workers%2520for%2520web_0.pdf

    Our theme music is Focus, from A. A. Aalto (Creative Commons)

    • 15 min
    #08 Universal Health Coverage in Southeast Asia

    #08 Universal Health Coverage in Southeast Asia

    In this month, WIEGO’s Social Protection programme director, Laura Alfers, was in Thailand for the Association of South East Asian Nations People’s Forum, or ASEAN People’s Forum for short, where civil society organizations representatives have gathered, in Bangkok, to prepare for the ASEAN Summit that will happen from 31st of October to November 4th also in Thailand.

    The regional network of home-based workers, HomeNet South East Asia hosted an event at the People's Forum on their new flagship issue - Universal Health Coverage for Informal Workers.
    Laura was at that ASEAN People’s forum event, where she has met several of HomeNet South East Asia delegates, and recorded an interview with Suntaree Saeng-Ging for this special episode of our show.

    Suntaree Saeng-Ging is the Regional Coordinator of HomeNet South East Asia. In this talk with Laura Alfers, she explains how the grass-roots work of HomeNet has been carried out and will provide an overview of the universal health coverage policies in South East Asia. They also discuss some of the main challenges and policies advances in the region to include informal workers on healthcare provision schemes

    References
    ASEAN Summit page https://www.asean2019.go.th/en/meeting/35th-asean-summit-and-related-summits/
    ASEAN People’s forum page https://www.forum-asia.org/?p=29664
    ASEAN People’s forum event page at WIEGO website https://www.wiego.org/events/hnsea-universal-health-coverage-workshop-asean-peoples-forum
    Towards Universal Health Coverage for Home-Based Worker in Southeast Asia https://www.wiego.org/sites/default/files/resources/file/Towards%20Universal%20Health%20Coverage%20for%20Home-Based%20Worker%20in%20Southeast%20Asia.pdf

    Our theme music is Focus, from A. A. Aalto (Creative Commons)

    • 15 min
    #07 Formalizing The Informal - The R204 Process

    #07 Formalizing The Informal - The R204 Process

    In 2015, the ILO’s International Labour Conference adopted the Recommendation about the Transition from the Informal to the Formal Economy, the R204.

    To help us understand what is the R204, what is the importance of it, what has been done until now and the challenges ahead, we will talk to Jane Barrett

    Jane is WIEGO’s Organization and Representation programme director and she has been leading the R204 process at WIEGO in South Africa.

    Resources
    • WIEGO’s perspective on “Formalizing the Informal Economy” http://www.wiego.org/formalization/formalizing-informal-economy

    • WIEGO Network Platform: Transitioning from the Informal to the Formal Economy in the Interest of Workers in the Informal Economy: https://www.wiego.org/resources/wiego-network-platform-transitioning-informal-formal-economy-interest-workers-informal-eco

    • WIEGO in the 2015 International Labour Conference on Facilitating Transitions from the Informal to the Formal Economy: https://www.wiego.org/content/international-labour-conference-2015

    • Myths & Facts about the Informal Economy and Workers in the Informal Economy: https://www.wiego.org/resources/myths-facts-about-informal-economy-and-workers

    • Informality and Illegality: Unpacking the Relationship: https://www.wiego.org/sites/wiego.org/files/resources/files/WIEGO-Informality-and-Illegality.pdf

    • VIDEO: Organizing for Change: https://www.wiego.org/organizing/video-organizing-change-workers-informal-economy

    • Read the ILO’s Recommendation 204: https://www.ilo.org/ilc/ILCSessions/previous-sessions/104/texts-adopted/WCMS_377774/lang--en/index.htm

    *Our theme music is Focus from AA Aalto (Creative Commons)

    • 28 min

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