Inside Health Care: A Podcast by NCQA David J. Smolar, Producer and Host

In this episode, we highlight two companies that leverage data from many different sources to create a more complete picture of a person’s health. The ultimate goal? Shifting away from the current model of “sick care” - where patients primarily see their doctors when they aren’t feeling well – to care models that prioritize long-term health and self-management with guidance from providers. These companies are helping lead the way to value-based care, from using AI to sift through patient-reported data and provide actionable insights, to integrating NCQA's HEDIS measurements into their data platform, thereby putting quality at the center of everything they do. Here, you’ll get a glimpse into the challenges and opportunities in our current data-rich health care ecosystem.

The course of the Digitalization of Health doesn’t always run smooth. But for every set of pain points a provider might experience, there are companies developing technological solutions – platforms and tools – that not only guide us through digital transformation but identify crucial patient and population data along the way.

In this episode, we talk with two health tech leaders, interviewed during NCQA’s 2023 Health Innovation Summit in Orlando, Florida, about their strategies and successes in using digital tools that can ultimately reveal and resolve gaps in health care delivery.

Sebastian Seiguer, is co-founder and CEO of Scene Health. Scene Health is a company focused on medication “engagement”, a comprehensive approach that means more than just getting patients to take their medicine. They provide personalized medication support by combining video technology, clinical coaching, and validated interventions to improve medication adherence rates. Within the tapestry of their mission is the clear goal of reaching and engaging with diverse, vulnerable, and hard-to-reach populations.

Upendra Patel, CEO of AaNeel Infotech, is finding ways to support clinicians through EHR, or Electronic Health Record, interoperability. AaNeel Infotech worked with Medstar Health to transform an isolated risk calculator into a FHIR-based app. Upendra’s company helped them use the SMART on FHIR methodology. That’s FHIR as in “Fast Health Interoperability Resources” and SMART as in “Substitutable Medical Applications and Reusable Technologies”. Using the SMART on FHIR approach, AaNeel Infotech helped create an app called “Mobilizing a Million Hearts”, which integrates the Million Hearts Longitudinal Atherosclerotic Cardiovascular Disease risk calculator into the MedStar Health EHR system and allows Medstar providers to get an even more comprehensive view of their patients at risk for cardiovascular disease.

This episode of “Inside Health Care: a Podcast by NCQA” features three interviews recorded live at our Health Innovation Summit in October 2023. Among many panels and presentations was an incredible session titled “Health Equity Trailblazers: Where Vision Meets Commitment.” Health equity leaders discussed their organizations’ health equity strategies, vision and lessons learned, delving into how leaders can commit to and advance health equity priorities. Each of this episode’s guests sat on that panel then sat with me for a deeper dive. These leaders, each in their own way, want to inspire us to action.

Dr. Joneigh Khaldun is Vice President and Chief Health Equity Officer for CVS Health. In this role, she advances the company’s data-driven strategy to improve access to services, address social determinants of health and decrease health disparities. She is a sought-after speaker and thought leader who has appeared on Meet the Press, MSNBC and CNN, among others, and she has testified before Congress.

In her past work, as the top doctor leading Michigan’s COVID response, she is credited with the state’s early identification of and actions to decrease disparities, and in 2021 was appointed by President Biden to the national COVID-19 Health Equity Task Force. She is a practicing emergency physician who earned her MD from the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania.

Dr. Ronald M. Wyatt is a renowned global health care quality and safety expert with a passion for advancing health equity worldwide. Dr. Wyatt is Founder and CEO of Achieving Health Equity, LLC. As a distinguished Senior Fellow with the Institute for Healthcare Improvement, he holds pivotal roles as Chief Science Officer and Chief Medical Officer at the Society to Improve Diagnosis in Medicine, an organization dedicated to enhancing diagnostic accuracy in health care. As an expert in hospital safety oversight, Dr. Wyatt holds a significant role in shaping the National Patient Safety Goal on Health Equity. His contributions to the National Patient Safety Plan, authored by AHRQ and IHI, underscore his commitment to advancing health care on a global scale.

Dr. Bryan O. Buckley moderated the Health Care Trailblazers panel at NCQA’s 2nd annual Health Innovation Summit. Dr. Buckley is NCQA’s Director for Health Equity Initiatives. In this position, he plays a key role in developing partnerships with funding and research organizations, care delivery systems, the managed care industry and communities to translate research knowledge and real-world evidence into development of equity-oriented products and programs. These include NCQA’s Health Equity Accreditation programs.

In this Inside Health Care interview, we explore GME — graduate medical education — and explore a few fundamental questions. How can we make sure today’s medical residents are paying attention to their patients? How do we teach residents to ask the right questions? And even more fundamentally, how do we make sure that the next generation of clinicians knows how to implement value-based models of care in order to focus on person-centered outcomes?

A value-based model helps patients envision what their lives could be a few months, or even years, down the line. And that’s the point at which clinicians can help patients develop a treatment plan to get them from point A to point B. That may be the best way to keep a patient healthy, boost their interest in their self-care and prevent repeat visits for the same problem.

So the questions stand regarding graduate medical education. How do you teach med school students the value of quality? How do you train them to follow a model of value-based care? And if your hospital’s HEDIS scores are low, how much of that is because of the residents? What's the correlation between medical residencies and health care quality?

Michael Kanter, MD, is a professor and chair of Clinical Science at the Kaiser Permanente Bernard J. Tyson School of Medicine in Pasadena, California. In his work within Kaiser Permanente’s health care system, he’s overseen the quality of care provided by 22,000 physicians to 12.2 million patients. He also was responsible for development of Kaiser’s national quality strategy. An expert in patient safety and clinical quality, he developed policy-based and software-based programs that decreased the number of missed or delayed diagnoses and increased patient engagement.

Jung Kim, PhD, MPH, is Assistant Professor for Health Systems Science at the Kaiser Permanente Tyson School of Medicine, and a protégé of Dr. Kanter. Dr. Kim explores approaches to health care and healing, including studies on the roles of acupuncture and other East Asian practices as complementary or alternative medical treatments for cancer, H-I-V and other conditions. As we’ll hear in our interview, Dr. Kim also investigates innovations in medical education residency programs, including analysis of email communication among medical students and new learning strategies for medical education.

We close 2023 with our annual year-end State of Health Care interview with NCQA President Peggy O’Kane. In this interview, Peggy talks with Vice President for Public Policy and External Relations, Frank Micciche, about NCQA’s progress in 2023—both in improving equitable access to health care and implementing digital transformation across the ecosystem. As you’ll hear, we’re hitting the ground running in 2024. With new digital products, digital quality implementers and digital solutions to reveal—and reverse—health care disparities, NCQA stands ready to take the lead on advancing quality for everyone.

Don't forget to sign up for NCQA’s next big event: the Health Equity Forum, coming up March 4th and 5th, 2024, at the Westin Los Angeles Airport. The Health Equity Forum convenes state officials, advocates and health care providers, showcasing the blueprint for creating and implementing statewide health equity strategies. Our next Quality Talks event is planned for Spring 2024. And as mentioned in this episode's interview, go to www.ncqasummit.com to learn more about our Health Innovation Summit, and click here to register for our next event, October 31-November 2, 2024, in Nashville.

In this episode of our “Inside Health Care” podcast, we hear two interviews that each demonstrate how close we are to solving the challenges of health disparities and digital transformation. Our first interview finds a real-life, “Last Mile” solution that will bring historically under-served populations to the health care services they need and deserve. Our second interview reveals how improved efficiencies in digitalization actually make it easier to add even more data – and more data crunching – into the mix.

PHIT4DC stands for the Public Health Informatics and Technology for the District of Columbia Workforce Diversification Program. PHIT4DC brings together public health programs at two HBCUs—historically Black Colleges and Universities—namely, the University of the District of Columbia and Howard University. Together, these esteemed institutions train professionals from historically under-served neighborhoods in 21st-century IT knowledge and skills so they can return to their neighborhoods and give back to their communities.

PHIT4DC trains PCMH professionals in order to send them to work in and support their hometown communities and neighborhoods. It’s a powerful solution for bridging the gap in health equity provision. And it’s probably possible to set up this model in any U.S. city. But, as you can imagine, it’s no small feat.

Dr. Mary Awuonda currently serves as an Associate Professor and Director of the Center of Excellence at the Howard University College of Pharmacy. In her directorship role, she helps the College advance its health care workforce diversification mission and student academic success initiatives. She is published in the areas of minority health, health disparities, health outcomes research and workforce diversification.

Hannah George is a health care consultant with years of service across the health care industry. She’s been a college professor/mentor for nursing students and director of nursing for multiple home health agencies in the District of Columbia. She’s worked on multiple health care research protocols and served as senior clinical lead on multiple projects and initiatives. Hannah is certified in Project Management, is a Certified Professional in Healthcare Quality (CPHQ) and a Certified Professional in Patient Safety (CPPS).


Digitalization ensures the safe and efficient transfer and parsing of health care data between providers. Patients benefit, clinics benefit, clinicians can spend more time with patients. And improvements in data transfer and parsing reveal more population data than ever before, which uncovers gaps in health equity. And with that population data, researchers can start to reverse deficiencies and ensure better health care for all.

Josh Hetler is Chief Operations Officer at DataLink and an expert in the potential revelations of supplemental data. Josh has over a decade of experience developing software products for advancing value-based health care. At DataLink, he’s held management, director and vice president positions, successfully building strategies that impact customer adoption and engagement.

Josh was interviewed live and in person at NCQA’s 2nd annual Health Innovation Summit, in October 2023 in Orlando, Florida.