Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

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What if There’s No Way to Stop Trump’s Approach to Power?

President Trump may forever reshape the boundaries of executive power. This week on “Interesting Times,” Ross and Jack Goldsmith, who was the head of the White House’s Office of Legal Counsel under President George W. Bush, discuss which cases are most likely to win in the courts and permanently expand the executive branch — for better or worse.

1h 6m
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This Instability May Be Worth It. Here's Why.

Is the short-term economic pain of President Trump’s unpredictable approach to tariffs a reasonable price to pay for a more resilient America? Mr. Trump appears to think so, and so does Oren Cass — sort of. On the first episode of “Interesting Times,” the founder and chief economist of the think tank American Compass joins Ross Douthat to discuss and debate the Trump administration’s drastic trade war.

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How Democrats Drove Silicon Valley Into Trump’s Arms

The tech investor Marc Andreessen and his fellow Silicon Valley giant Elon Musk weren’t always the Donald Trump supporters they are today. In this episode, Ross asks Andreessen, a founder of the venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz, about what led to Silicon Valley’s rightward shift and the new agenda of the tech-right faction.

1h 3m
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Steve Bannon on ‘Broligarchs’ vs. Populism

In this conversation, Ross talks to Steve Bannon, the chief strategist from Donald Trump’s first term and part of the original MAGA movement. Despite his clashes with new factions emerging in the Republican Party, Bannon argues that Trump is still central to advancing a populist agenda.

1h 14m
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The Anti-D.E.I. Crusader Who Wants to Dismantle the Department of Education

Christopher Rufo brought the term "critical race theory" into mainstream conversation. Now, the anti-DEI activist is bringing his critiques of education to the White House. In this episode, Ross explores Rufo's mission to make universities feel "existential terror."

1h 7m

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2d ago

Bretikikexkorax

I have always liked hearing and reading Ross’ perspectives. I feel I’m not inside an echo chamber. The interview with Jack Goldsmith was particularly excellent.
A new perspective on how I see things

Apr 11

Joy Jiang Chen

I discovered this new podcast hosted by Ross lately and have been binge reading/listening. I’m registered an independent and vote on the democratic side. I regularly read David Brooks and Ross selectively, to get a different perspective on important issues of the day. Now these recent interviews in such depth have really helped me clear some of my misunderstandings and confusion about the turmoil our country is going through. I do enjoy Ross’ mind and intellectual prowess though I don’t always agree with him. Thank you Ross and your guests. Please continue this wonderful work! Btw, I also enjoy Ezra Klein Show tremendously!
Wish and The Washy Talk

2d ago

ming de merciless

On “What if there’s no way to stop Trump”. Two people afraid to say what they really think.
Only one opinion mattered all along

3d ago

ZachMG

I was a fan of the original Argument podcast. Matter of Opinion was okay as a successor but it eventually got tiresome, with Ross Douthat’s incessant need to have the last word on every subject. But now, the NYT has decided to officially turn MoO into what it became anyway: the Ross Show. Instead of civil conversations across the political spectrum, the ineffectual liberal co-hosts have been pushed out of the picture entirely, and Ross has a free platform to interview whatever right-wing monarchist kooks he wants. Pretty good metaphor for our current era of politics.

The first draft of our future. Mapping the new world order through interviews and conversations. Every Thursday, from New York Times Opinion. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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The New York Times
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New York Times Opinion
Years Active

2018 - 2025
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6
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Explicit
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