Back in the interview chair, Gray takes you to the Arizona scene for an interview with _Zaphod_, owner and creator of Phoenix42 Creations ( https://www.instagram.com/phoenix42creations/ ).
They talk about “being a rope guy”, Taoist philosophy, creating consent with partners, how to create a more inclusive community, and more.
This episode sponsored by Twisted Monk ( http://twistedmonk.graydancer.com )
Lee Allure ( http://facebook.com/SpiralEyeSoap )
& http://patreon.com/graydancer .