Ivan Cleary - "You gotta do what you believe in and follow your heart"

In this special episode of the Daily Telegraph NRL Podcast, David Riccio sits down with four-time premiership winner and Panthers coach Ivan Cleary. 

They talk about aspects of his life, how he celebrated the Panthers win, his struggles with mental health, and looking forward to what's in store with the Panthers next season.

Check out Ivan's new book Not Everything Counts but Everything Matters in all good bookstores.

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