Job Seekers Radio Andrew Beach and Scott Pickard-Jones

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Do you want to help your network find jobs? Many of us do! Sometimes it's hard to know exactly how you might be able to help your network that is productive.



Learn some strategies and tips on how to support job seekers from Andrew and Scott in this episode.

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What is coaching and how can I coach others.

How to be available and supportive.

What to do when people ask for your help to find work.

When to ask questions and when to give advice.

Side effects and benefits of supporting others.

Building skills like understanding, empathy and helping others find their own way.

Who and how to reach out proactively.

Offering and doing mock interviews.

Thoughts on reverse brainstorming or being the "devil's advocate".

Facilitating networking connections.

Don't ask for a resume unless you have a job or capacity to 100% endorse for a job.

Do for one what you wish you could do for many.

Create template for responding to outreaches you may not be able to give full attention.



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To John, singers radio I'm Scott. I'm Andrew this production is meant to provide meaningful support for you listener to find a great career faster whether you're working or not. Today's episode is brought to you by the anatomy of the networking conversation. It's an e book and a free resource that we've created that you can download at seekers radio DOT com. Today's episode were talking about how you as the listener can support others around you as a coach or a support mechanism to help them maybe in a time of need. Yes. We're not talking about the kind of coaching that Andrew and I do where there's a process that we help people get through that. We're looking at outcomes and everything else coaching can actually be. Done in many different ways and and just just professional coaching. There's the difference between the kind of coach that instructs and the other kind of coach that works with self-discovery, and we're not going to go down that road. What we want to do is to set up the idea of making yourself available to help other people work through their stuff to be a resource. You think okay I'm not in a capacity I don't have the capability. I'm not trained up or have the experience that Scott in Andrew have what value could I possibly have to those around me that are in need of employment that's what we're talking about as just as uncomfortable as it is for them to be looking for employment, it might be as equally uncomfortable for you to talk to them about it right for a number of reasons for whatever. There's lots of reasons. especially if you are also looking for work, you don't you're not working at the time and somebody is asking you for advice. I worked to why. They right if I had all the answers. Well, that's the thing. Often. We find the answers through helping other people and it's something that I'm sure you've heard I'm sure we've even talked about it to some degree in prior podcasts the idea of making yourself available to to network with people to talk to other people you get as much if not more of the conversation than the one asking you we want to start by saying when someone asks you to coach them say yes. It doesn't matter if you are the best coach in the world, what matters is that you are there for them. And it may not be that they're asking you to be coached. They may just say, Hey, i. need help and that's an admission on their side that they appreciate you. They honor potentially your contributions in your your advice, your perspective, it's not them. Coming to you and demanding right something back. It's them coming to you with open hand saying I need help.

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Is your job search not going the way you want? Feeling like your skills aren't up to snuff? Scott and Andrew discuss ways to mitigate your self-doubt.







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Remember this: You have value! and.. Everyone has doubts!







Identify and manage your self-doubt.







How to think about job postings when you don't fit because you are either underqualified or over-qualified?







Build resilience by taking productive breaks in your search.







The danger of absolutism with your mindset and approach.







Redefine your perspectives to see what's positive about it.







The Never Ending Job Search, how to think about whether will it ever end.







Doing things for others can become a useful diversion.







Nobody is hiring or Hiring Freeze doubts.







Role of networking in reducing your doubt feelings.









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Why You Can’t Get an Interview – Explained Using Job-Search Science Data







Andrew's LinkedIn Profile - Free Coaching at 3:00 PM Pacific every Friday







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Welcome to job. Seekers Radio I'm Andrew. This production is meant to provide you. Meaningful support is a listener to find a great career faster whether you're working or not. Today's episode is brought to you by the anatomy of a networking conversation e book. It's a free resource. You can download at job. Seekers radio DOT COM in today's show. We're talking about overcoming self doubt in your job search what I've found in recent times, is it? There's a lot of doubt in the marketplace. You have value. That's what I'm going to start with. You have value. It's just finding the place where you can use your that can use your value. Yes, and who will appreciate your value absolutely, so we're going to talk today about some top doubts and some solutions some things that you can do to resolve some of those doubts or mitigate them or worthy. Get your right, and that's that's where I wanted to start. Love the idea you have value find the place that acknowledges that appreciates at the same time. Understand that everyone has self downed everyone. Again if you have no fear, no doubt then the you may be disordered. The idea of self doubt is so universal that overcoming. Self doubt really is the key. It is not eliminating you won't. Recognizing learning to manage, it is a far greater more important skill, then trying to eliminate it because it's not going to happen. It may be evidence of empathy and compassion. Actually that you're downing doing something because it might impact somebody else that's great could be. Necessarily if we're talking your language right now and your job seeker listening to this session, or perhaps your energy job in your just unsure your next move, you might be dealing with things like you know. Do I meet these requirements of this role. Will the interviewers like me right will ever find a good job as good or bad as the last one I've had in, and can there be anything better. Maybe it's I'm current with 'em. Current with the job market are my sills valued right? You're questioning things then you're in the right place I would agree. You're in the right place. So the first one that we really think about here's job requirements and many of the people that I coach will look online postings right. They'll look at. Do An inventory as great analytical do. Because I work with a lot of analytical engineers that sorta chicken they they liked to deconstruct th...

Show Notes

"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the assessment that something else is more important than fear." - Franklin D. Roosevelt

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Can't eliminate fear, can only manage it.

pros and cons review action and non-action alternatives

getting out of your own head by helping others get out of theirs

thinking about the things you fear on paper

turning fear into self-advocacy

reaching to outside resources like a coach, therapist, or EAP.

Understanding conflict and gaining new perspectives

Role reversal technique: would you help others if in the same situation?

Turn to the people who care about you

Baby Steps

ACRONYM: False Evidence Appearing Real

build self confidence and safety through considering all the alternatives

identify fear and mitigate its impact

what are your decisions based on and are they helping you?

process of letting go and trying NEW things

making proactive decisions



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What Color is Your Parachute

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Welcome to Job Seekers Radio I'm Andrew. I'm Scott this production is meant to provide you the listener meaningful support to fight great careers faster, and that's whether you're working or not. Today's episode is brought to you by the anatomy of a networking conversation e book. It's a free resources you can download at job. Seekers radio DOT COM in today's show. We're talking about making career decisions without fear. Now I don't know if you're ever goes away. No, it's an. It's a manageable thing maybe depending on. Yeah. and. Really we brought this to the four because of a lot of things that are going on, not only in our our lives, maybe or even in our coaching interactions, but also in just in the world in society. In general, we're dealing with a pandemic. We have the black lives matter movement. We have a lot of political unrest going on just within the United States, not to mention what's going on around the world. There's a lot going on that. Can create fear and so we're just going to talk about career in the job search and again. That's whether you're working or not. Fear is involved. Regardless of where you are it, it's one of those things where you might even feel like. Is it really fear or is there some other emotional feeling? It's great to explore that and that's basically where we're going to go and we acknowledge. Right Scott that outside influences can either fuel or Exacerbate your fear. So we're not gonNA cover that part of it, but we acknowledged that that exists we're talking about. Is it possible? Is it possible to make career decisions without fear? Yeah I. Remember I'm going to paraphrase probably badly, but I believe I know it was an army general that said it. I believe it was pat that made the comment that fear. Courage is not the absence of fear, but the ability to act well in spite of it and again that's probably a poor paraphrase, but you get the just, and I like to come back to that thought whenever I am looking at something that is triggering fear in me. Is that if I can make progress? However, small that progress is if I'm still moving in the right direction. It's still progress can I do that while managing my fear, and that's really what works for me, the idea of managing it not getting rid of it. You can't I can't i. in fact I read an article not too long ago. That suggested that those who actually do act without any. That's a disorder so. That helps me feel better about managing my fears well when I first heard that question I was like well. Maybe maybe you can manage these career decisions without herb. Maybe not it really just depends on your perspective absolutely,

Show Notes

Authenticity is a characteristic that can often go out the window when looking for work. In the harried and eager interest to meet the employer's needs and expectations, the job seeker can lose themselves. 



Andrew and Scott share strategies and tactics on how to be genuine and stand up for the strengths that job seekers bring to a role.

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Being "you" in a job search focused on your strengths.

Mindset of truth to yourself over pretending to be something you aren't.

Balancing financial needs and job satisfaction.

Holding desperation at arms length.

Complete assessments to get more clarity and access a professional to help you identify your strengths.

Increasing the satisfaction in your job.

Nothing Lasts Forever.

Stand up for your strengths in the interview.

Reinvent yourself to something you want.

Consider a vanity project that makes you feel good.



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StrengthsFinder 2.0What Color is Your Parachute

Toastmasters for Better Communication 

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welcome to job seekers radio. I'm Andrew and I'm Scott. This production is meant to provide you the listener meaningful support to find great careers. Faster whether you're working or not. Today's episode is brought to you by the anatomy of a networking conversation. It's an e book and a free resource that you can download at Jobseeker's radio DOT COM in today's show. We're talking about the art of being you in job. Search one of my favorite phrases that A colleague of mine says to me all the time. Is You be you? I'm sure most of us have heard that phrase did that come with the snap. No he he means it really very sincerely you can snap yes. Of course. He's he really means it. He wants people to be as authentic as possible. Because it's in learning. Who People really are that. We can then leverage their strengths. And that's one of his themes in his career is to to work with your strengths. When you're looking for something better at in a job search of any kind often feel like you have to change who you are to meet somebody else's expectation you have to Discount your strength. Sometimes because you feel like they may not be valid. And that's often what happens in people that I work with have been laid off from somewhere. They felt like they've been rejected. They're going into a situation. Where Jeez the stuff that I did must not be valuable so I need to reinvent myself and that might be true. You may want to reinvent yourself but if that's your choice great it may be but it isn't necessarily the truth and there's that element of well if this didn't work anymore then now. I have to fake it and and we hear this all the time. Fake it till you make it well that works but is it really sending the messages. You want to send if the message doesn't matter and you're faking it because you are learning how to do it better. That's definitely add approach can take. I don't discount that at all to your point if I suddenly feel like I have to change who I am in order to now be acceptable. That kind of faking. It is probably going to either backfire on you or it's not going to work at all people that are looking at indeed dot com or the job postings at a company They look at that job posting. Oh I can do that. I can do that. I can do this too and look at all these things that they can do without. I saying Is that really what I want to do? I really want to do that. Because if we look at everything based on just a capability model where we're checking all the boxes. We may end up. Disatisfied I don't know that that's a natural approach you know not to mention there's opportunities where you know what? I can't do that and I should probably take that job because I don't have a c...

Show Notes

Job search can be a challenging and rewarding experience. When you learn new techniques and try them out, some may work others might not.



What happens when you get to the point when you have tried everything. Nothing seems to be working! Don't miss this episode where Scott and Andrew discuss strategies to invigorate your search.

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Taking in and evaluating the advice you are receiving.

What to do when everything you have tried doesn't work.

Mindset and activities that can support or defeat your efforts.



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welcome to job seekers radio. I'm Andrew and I'm Scott. This production is meant to provide you the listener meaningful support defined great careers faster. And that's whether you're working or not. Today's episode is brought to you by the anatomy of a networking conversation. It's an e book a Free Resource. We have for you at job. Seekers radio DOT COM in today's show. We're talking about what happens when the advice runs out in your job search and it just doesn't seem to be working you're still out there looking haven't found a job yet I think there was a recent situation that you had Scott. Yes other eager. Probably fill us in with one of your clients right. I was just having the conversation recently with somebody who is not complaining but expressing his frustration with the fact that he has been around the job seeking block for awhile now. He's relatively new to the area but not new to his field and that industry is represented here in the Portland area. He's talked to a lot of people. He is very well connected in the right places. He's received a lot of advice from both of us from others and nothing has worked yet. He's been working with Everything with from startups to established companies all sizes and shapes and nothing quite has worked out to give him a foothold. Right gainful employment right or at least the final set of interviews or a process. That looks exactly normal. He's gotten close in a couple of situations but it's it's not anything that really has delivered anything even even a temporary contract position and I've been there a lot of what he was describing was stuff that I lived through during my years of unemployment. And so I. I had a great deal of compassion for him under these circumstances because he's truly frustrated. He's tried everything he is. At least his last job was at a higher level so we talked about the fact that there. Aren't that many jobs in this metropolitan area on that level in the field and we talked about his efforts to branch out. He's looking at at companies of different sizes. He has applied for jobs of at Lower Levels. And when he he is then asked why he's applying for a lower position because he's now over qualified and you can't get a job when you're overqualified which doesn't really make any sense. Other than the fact that the a lot of companies are too afraid to hire someone that they're then they feel they then have to replace. Because they're gonNA move onto something else when I talked to. Hr PEOPLE WHO Express that fear. I also tell them well. What are the chances that they may be able to help your company move up within your company that would be a really great higher? Then there's there's fear in Balkh he's been at this for a number of months. He's in a situation where he has a family to support. And what do you do that? The one thing that I keep coming back to is keep going. And that's really the the answer to the question keep going. Yeah and it's nothing that we can't work with and the challenge that a lot of people have is they come into a situation and they put a date out there.

Show Notes

Getting noticed by a hiring manager can take some effort. You have interest in a company or even a specific position, but are unsure about how to get on the radar.



Scott and Andrew discuss some strategies for finding hiring managers and getting their attention.

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Getting around the applicant tracking system (ATS) and recruitment processes.

Reverse engineering the roles and industry trends based on research to craft attention grabbing mindsets.

Leveraging industry associations and relationships to get introductions.

Position your expertise to align with current events and trends.

Tracking and keeping tabs on hiring managers of interest through authentic engagement.

Identifying problems you solve or can help them avoid proactively.

Incubating and updating hiring managers with valued content.

Be an extension of the hiring manager's work by becoming a subject-matter expert (SME) and bringing information back to the team.

Share the truth about your capabilities and accomplishments.

Volunteering alongside hiring managers with similar interests.



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welcome to Job Seekers Radio Andrew and I'm Scott. This production is meant to provide you meaningful support to find great careers faster. And that's why they're you're working or not today. We're talking about getting on the hiring managers radar this can be challenging and it's going to be different in every situation but we want to talk about this in just general terms because often there are ways to get on the radar that either we forget about. We don't know about or that. We sure whether or not it's going to be effective and so we don't try and I think the first step is you gotta try what you know. Hopefully we can build on that today. Today's episode is actually brought to you by the anatomy of a networking conversation. It's an e book that Scott Ni- put together to free sort resource for you on job. Seekers RADIO DOT COM. You can download that at your leisure. The challenge with getting on the hiring managers radar is feedback. That I've gotten from a lot of job seekers that I coached those ones that are working in ones. That are not that are just trying to get. I don't WanNa say around recruitment or talent acquisition. But really they WANNA talk to a human being and often. They're not able to because of all the layers of process that stand between them and the company so many companies now are using automated systems to go through a recruiting process and so it is difficult to get in touch with a human being and we recognize that. Turn the tables just long enough to to think about why they would wanna do that. I can't really blame them. Having been on both sides of the coin both as a hiring manager as well as a job seeker. The hiring manager needs help anymore. I don't know. Many companies that have a lot of recruiters are a lot of people that have the bandwidth to be doing a lot of the sourcing. Most the recruiters I know have an enormous number of tickets open for positions that they need to hire people into and it can be daunting so the automated systems that they use help them to find people with the right qualifications at least with the right keywords. So all of the PODCAST THAT. We've we've already done where we're talking about how to get into that. All of that still applies. Hopefully we can maintain a sense of empathy for those who are going through all of that processing the ones that are reaching out using these automated systems. We want to help them to find us. So that's really elite sort of the the perspective we WanNa start with today. Part of this is really reverse engineering.