John Koza on real change, the electoral college and maintaining our democracy.

Meet John Koza, chairman and director of the National Popular Vote: an organization working to guarantee the US presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes across the country, rather than the candidate who wins the most electoral seats. We discuss the playbook for how to create massive change, with only a small budget and six part-time volunteers.

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