51 episodes
Law and Chaos Liz Dye
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4.6 • 210 Ratings
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Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it’s Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we’ve got you covered.
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Ep 50 — Project 2025: Yes, It Is THAT BAD
Project 2025 is the right’s manifesto on how to break the government and turn America into a Christian nationalist state. It’s also deeply weird — just like the guys who wrote it. We’ll break down 20 of the craziest policy proposals, and then take a deep dive into the plan to replace the civil service with an army of MAGA loyalists.
Links:
GOP Whines That It’s No Fair That Kamala Gets Joe’s Money
https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/gop-whines-that-its-no-fair-kamala
Project 2025
https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf
Pendleton Civil Service Reform Act of 1883, 5 U.S.C. Chapter 23
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/part-III/subpart-A/chapter-23
Trump Executive Order 13957
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2020-10-26/pdf/2020-23780.pdf
Biden EO 14003 (repealing Trump EO 13957)
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2021-01-27/pdf/2021-01924.pdf
5 CFR Parts 210, 212, 213, 302, 432, 451, and 752
https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2024-06815.pdf
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Ep 49 — Biden Bows Out, Kamala Sharpens Her Coconuts, and the GOP Gets Ready to Ratf—
Biden is out, Kamala is all but in, and the GOP is freaking out. We’ll break down potential Republican legal challenges to a Harris candidacy. Subscribers will get an extended curbstomping of Jonathan Turley’s galaxy brain plan to 25th Amendment Biden out of the last six months of his term.
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Louisiana notice of compliance
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lamd.64943/gov.uscourts.lamd.64943.32.0.pdf
DNC 2024 Call For the DNC
https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2024-Call-for-Convention.pdf
DNC 2024 Delegate Selection Rules
https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2024-Delegate-Selection-Rules.pdf
DNC Charter and bylaws
https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/DNC-Charter-Bylaws-03.12.2022.pdf
25th Amendment
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxxv
Constitution, Art. II, Section 1, Cl. 6 (“Succession Clause”)
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S1-C6-1/ALDE_00013693/
3 USC § 19
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/19
52 USC § 30102
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30102
11 CFR § 103.4
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/103.4
Revised FEC Form 1 “Harris for President”
https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00703975/1805326//
Heritage Foundation June 21 memo
https://x.com/OversightPR/status/1805239354505257196
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Ep 48 — Alec Baldwin Walks Out Of Court, While Rudy Giuliani Sloshes Back In
Rudy Giuliani discovers that getting out of bankruptcy court is harder than falling on your keyster at the RNC. And New Mexico prosecutors discover one weird trick to blow up a criminal case. (It is the Brady rule!) Plus Patreons get an update on the Louisiana ten commandments mandate.
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NMSA 30-2-3
https://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/chapter-30/article-2/section-30-2-3/
NMSA 30-7-4
https://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/chapter-30/article-7/section-30-7-4/
Alec Baldwin docket
https://caselookup.nmcourts.gov/caselookup/app?component=cnLink&page=SearchResults&service=direct&session=T&sp=SD-101-CR-202400013
Baldwin MTD Failure to state an offense
https://nmcourts.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/May-6-2024-Defendant-Alex-Baldwin-Motion-to-Dismiss-the-Indictment-for-Failure-to-Allege-a-Criminal-Offense-10-53-pm.pdf
Baldwin MTD Destruction of evidence
https://nmcourts.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/May-6-2024-Defendant-Alex-Baldwin-Motion-to-Dismiss-the-Indictment-with-Prejudice-Based-on-the-State-Destruction-of-Evidence-10-32-pm.pdf
Baldwin Addendum re destruction of evidence
https://nmcourts.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/June-17-2024-Addendum-to-Defendants-Motion-to-Dismiss-based-on-the-Destruction-of-Evidence-456p.pdf
Baldwin June 24 MTD Brady
https://nmcourts.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/June-24-2024-Defendants-Motion-for-Relief-for-States-Brady-and-State-Law-Disclosure-Violations-Related-to-Non-Firearm-Discovery-240p.pdf
Baldwin July 11 MTD Brady
https://nmcourts.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/July-11-2024-Defendants-Motion-for-Dismissal-and-Sanctions-under-Brady-Giglio-and-Rule-5-501-752p.pdf
Roake v. Brumley - Louisiana Ten Commandments - Status update
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lamd.64943/gov.uscourts.lamd.64943.31.0.pdf
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Ep 47 — Trump Gets Christmas In July Thanks To Judge Aileen Cannon
Judge Cannon blows up the documents case by declaring special counsels illegal. All she had to do was ignore 50 years of precedent, five federal statutes, and two Supreme cases. Glove up for a deep dive, with Liz and Andrew.
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Ep 46 — Rudy Giuliani and Bathtub Gin — Thanks, SCOTUS!
A Trump trial judge decides to overturn Supreme Court precedent on home distilling. And speaking of sobriety … we’ll check in on Rudy Giuliani’s attempt to replicate Alex Jones’s stunning success in the bankruptcy court. Patreons get an extra field trip to Congress, where Oversight Chair James Comer invites the Biden administration to say where it would like to be kicked.
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Wait, The Fifth Circuit Is Snatching Cases From Other Circuits Now?
https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/the-fifth-circuit-is-snatching-cases
26 USC 5178
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/5178
26 USC 5601
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/5601
HDA complaint
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.384014/gov.uscourts.txnd.384014.1.0.pdf
HDA docket
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68073961/hobby-distillers-association-v-alcohol-and-tobacco-tax-and-trade-bureau/
HDA decision
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.384014/gov.uscourts.txnd.384014.49.0_1.pdf
FRCP 26
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_26
Freeman v. Giuliani (DC docket)
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/61642105/freeman-v-giuliani/
Giuliani stipulation
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720.84.2_1.pdf
11 USC 362
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/11/362
Giuliani May MOR
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064.267.0.pdf
Giuliani May exhibits
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064.267.4.pdf
House GOP Letters to Biden Agencies Post-Chevron
https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/07.10.2024-Letters-to-federal-agencies-regarding-Loper-Bright-v.-Raimondo.pdf
Distillers Want to Decriminalize Making Booze at Home
https://www.texasobserver.org/distillers-decriminalize-home-booze/
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Ep 45 — Kraken Crackpots and Cannon Balls
Today we have a deep dive into the absolute havoc SCOTUS’s immunity ruling will wreak in Trump’s document theft case — even though he was out of the White House when he committed his crimes! But first, the election denying weirdos and their election denying lawyers are Froot Looping all over the docket in the Dominion defamation case. And for subscribers: a discussion of the Alex Jones bankruptcy debacle.
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18 USC 333
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/333
John Case in 2015
https://www.evanscase.com/john-case-senior-partner-at-evans-case-llp-attorney-named-colorado-super-lawyer/
John Case today
https://www.johncaselaw.com/
Trump v. US
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf
18 USC 793
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
Trump SDFL Motion to Dismiss for Selective and Vindictive Prosecution
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.508.0.pdf
Alex Jones bankruptcy docket
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66583024/alexander-e-jones-and-official-committee-of-unsecured-creditors/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc
Alex Jones Ch. 7 Trustee Emergency Motion
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750.720.0_1.pdf
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Customer Reviews
REUNITED !!
So happy to stumble on the two of you back together again !!
Like an Infomercial
I was excited for the two hosts, Liz and Andrew, to get back together. But, it’s mostly been a disappointment.
If you liked their other show, you will get slight hints of that. There will be some light discussion about law topics in the news, followed by constant advertisements for their other revenue streams.
Be prepared to have any interesting or in-depth conversation locked behind a paywall, while you continue to listen to ads. Most content creators either lock portions of their content behind a paywall OR they have an ad-supported version. They have decided to do both, locking the majority of the content behind a paywall while simultaneously forcing you to listen to ads for the cliff notes.
I’d be willing to pay for the full episodes if it wasn’t for the fact that then I’d be paying to still hear them mention their Patreon and substack 30 times an episode.
Love this show
rapid fire facts, analysis, honest opinion and humor!