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The Lazy Money Machine podcast talks about how to live a life of time and financial freedom by investing in cash-flowing properties. Hosted by Erik ten Have & David Leon.

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The Lazy Money Machine podcast talks about how to live a life of time and financial freedom by investing in cash-flowing properties. Hosted by Erik ten Have & David Leon.

    62: Rodolfo Young Coach & Speaker

    62: Rodolfo Young Coach & Speaker

    In this podcast we speak to Rodolfo Young who embodies the lazy lifestyle, living in Bali while running his speaking and coaching business. Rodolfo speaks about compounding. We know this term from investing whereby the interest on an investment get reinvested and therefore it is compounding your returns. However it turns out that compounding can be applied to many areas of our life especially learning. Join Erik in exploring the fascinating ideas of Rodolfo Young.

    • 51 min
    61: How not to care about what other people think about you

    61: How not to care about what other people think about you

    David explains his views on this statement and why it is important not to care too much what other people think. David explains what happened when he got vocal about the pandemic.

    Erik asks if this is linked to having self confidence. Self confidence is a magnifying glass if you have more self confidence it is easier not to worry about other peoples opinion. Also if you are more successful and older there are less repercussions for saying what you feel without filters.

    Tony Robbins: If it is not going to matter in 5 years don’t give it 5 minutes of your time

    The vast majority of people should not run a business. We talk about how the Spanish and Indonesian culture influenced us in being straight forward.

    If you are worried about what other people think of you it is going to influence the speed with which you take decisions. Finding your mission in life you need to get separate from other peoples opinions. Opiniated people trigger the fear of not being good enough in others.

    David elaborates on how conflicts can exists if we are too stuck to our thinking and how important it is to be genuine.

    • 28 min
    60: Pandemic Special

    60: Pandemic Special

    Pandemic Special

    00:00 - 00:08 PANDEMIC OVERVIEW
    David outlines where we are with the covid-19 pandemic and lock downs. David explains why we are seeing the last bit of this pandemic. We will have people with health problems, financial problems and relationship problems. How can we see this as something positive and make society better while creating some profits. For properties we will see the need for smaller units, multi family units and properties with good work from home facilities.


    00:09 - 00:13
    Erik is discussing the situation in Indonesia and poorer countries, they will have to start opening up since the government does not have the money to keep everyone locked down. Erik's obeservation is that the limitation of freedom is causing a lot of issues. Erik outlines why our Lazy Lifestyle has actually trained us for lockdowns and why it therefor does not affect us at all and why we are still looking for opportunities.


    00:14 - 00:20
    David outlines how the limitation of travel has made him realize how much he misses speaking on stages.David outlines while countries like New Zealand will struggle. Financial consequences are going to be felt for decades.

    00:21 - 00:40 MINDSET
    We speak abouth why Mindset in this situation is so important. David explains why he got frustrated because of the fact that nobody could see what he saw based on factual information because most people are influenced by mass media progaganda. Being financially secure removes the fear of saying what you think and David thinks a lot more people should speak out. David discusses why he thinks that 'pivoting' is a wrong way to look at your business. If we sell a quality product we can keep selling that and not revert to lower value cheap products.

    00:41 - 1:00:04 OPPORTUNITIES
    How does this situation create opportunities? David explains that we are in an asset bubble and that Commodities, Real Estate and Shares are the vehicles where money is going to be made and where value is going up, simply becasue the value of money is going down. It is going to create a very large division of wealth and young people are going to have more and more difficulties to create wealth at all.

    Erik speaks about a trend that is going to influence what markets are going to look like: The break up of family units. This means that in terms of property investing, family houses with a garden that can accomodate a garden office, shared accomodation with studios and small flats are going to in demand.

    David spots another trend: Social Housing, housing for unemployed people and why this is a great opportunity. Erik discusses with David how empty commercial office buildings could be great redevelopment opportunity to turn them into housing. The small businesses (coffeshops, cafees, small restaurants etc) are suffering really bad. There are very interesting opportunities in shares as well and David discusses some.

    1:09:00 - 1:14:00 THE FUTURE
    If we look close at the World Economic Forum and their agenda 21 we can see what is coming our way: a possible a cyber attack wherby our powergrid could be under attack.

    Reach out to your friends, there are a lot of people suffering.

    • 1 hr 14 min
    59: Morals & Ethics

    59: Morals & Ethics

    David starts explaining by how it is possible to make money buying and selling in the current market which in New Zealand at the moment is very strong.

    David buys a property, does the necessary repairs and compliance work, and makes it ready for investors to take purchase. If the buyer does not renovate themselves, David’s team hands over all the quotes he has for the renovation together with the property so the buyer can do the work themselves. This way he takes the uncertainty out of the deals for the buyers/investors.

    We tend to focus on 2 very important levers in the property business:
    How to add value and how can we generate a cashflow out of the property

    We discuss what is holding many people with cashback from going all out in property investing is the leveraging or lending part of the business. This is scary for some especially the slightly older investors. Once we get them over the fear of lending, we can leverage this equity into a cash flowing property portfolio.

    David has a story around Morals & Ethics that happened today.

    David had a contract on selling a property with a buyer and investor signed when he received 2 offers that were higher, One of them 40.000 more than the deal David had done with the buyer. David went back to the investor and split the difference of the 40k more on the deal. This way it is a win-win for everyone. Morally it was wrong to get out of the agreement and take the 40k extra profit.

    We discuss the morals & ethics in doing business and how if you not use this in doing business it will come back to you someday. Traces of what you do are around forever and can be found on the internet easily.

    How about masculine and feminine energy :-) what does that have to do with morals & ethics lets check in with David on this.

    Lastly, we talk about freely sharing knowledge and helping people and how doing good is coming back to us.

    • 55 min
    58: Working with partners

    58: Working with partners

    David doesn't work more than 3-4 hours a day BUT he spends a lot of time hanging out socially with other people. Some of these people are business related some of them are just friends. This is so important to nourish your relationships even more so now in the Covid lockdown situation. It is also very important to nourish the relationship with your children.

    David and Erik both like working with partners in business but they come with problems, they come with baggage. Also you need to realize when you are in the way of progress and remove yourself from the business.

    Erik puts it even more firm: if you are not aligned with your partners you need to leave the partnership but you need to remember that nobody is perfect and you need to manage your partnership. It is very important is to find out what values your (potential) partner has.

    David feels that culture changes once a company grows beyond a certain level of revenue. When things become more corporate David is no longer a good fit. In that case you need a predefined exit strategy for a partnership. We speak about doing business with family members and the pro's and cons of it.

    David speaks about how wife/husbands/lifepartners can mess up a business relationship. David thinks it is best to not share too much of the (negative) news of your dealings with your business partner. You can talk about the good things of your business relationship with your life partner.

    • 1 hr 4 min
    57: Why choose property over other investment vehicles

    57: Why choose property over other investment vehicles

    Before we start off talking about this topic we will discuss why many people are letting external things like the weather, opinion of other people influence how you feel. Things happen for a reason start to accept that.

    Business is different from property, you are more emotionally attached to businesses, they tend to become like a baby and there are usually more people involved. This can prevent you from making objective decisions.

    Most people in property are paid based on results or services you don’t’ need permanent employees in a property business.

    Get mentors to get over your limiting beliefs around property

    David started with no money. It is a mindset issue David explains how he gets people out of these limited beliefs when he was mentoring people. The 2 things that are holding most people back:

    1.Fear that they are not enough
    2.I am not worthy

    3 type of investors
    1.Part timers on the side of their normal job
    2.Dreamers, no guts no money skilss
    3.Full time investors, not a very common thing

    Options for people interested in property but don’t want to invest full time

    Structured investment vehicles
    REIT’s on stock exchange
    Private property funds / Trust 6-8% annual dividend 7-10 years
    Syndications

    Angel investor private investor David usually gives them a good return on their money because most of these deals are used Interest rate on their money (floating rate). David will charge a management fee as a project manager. And the profit will be split 30-7- to 40-60 in favor of the party that put the deal together.

    Erik & David don’t invest in things that we don’t understand and only in people we believe in. David charges interest rate on his money and a % of profit at the end of the deal.

    We discuss how you can start investing with an experienced property investor can be really rewarding.

    Businesses will create cashflow a lot faster than property will but property will get you there in the long run.

    • 1 hr

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