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Leading Saints is a nonprofit organization with a mission to help Latter-day Saints (LDS, Mormon) be better prepared to lead.



Here are 4 ways Leading Saints accomplishes the above mission statement:



1. Connect Latter-day Saint Leaders



2. Enhance Leadership Ability



3. Present Leadership Scholarship & Research



4. Celebrate Divine Guidance



Podcast Host:



Kurt Francom is the founder and executive director of Leading Saints, a nonprofit organization helping Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. He manages the day-to-day efforts of Leading Saints and is the host of the podcast by the same name. Leading Saints has reached individuals internationally and has received over 2 million downloads. Kurt currently lives in Utah with his lovely wife Alanna. They are blessed to have three children. He enjoys drawing caricatures, playing basketball, reading, and watching college football. Kurt has served as a full-time missionary (California Sacramento), as a bishop, 1st counselor in a stake presidency, and elders quorum president.

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Leading Saints is a nonprofit organization with a mission to help Latter-day Saints (LDS, Mormon) be better prepared to lead.



Here are 4 ways Leading Saints accomplishes the above mission statement:



1. Connect Latter-day Saint Leaders



2. Enhance Leadership Ability



3. Present Leadership Scholarship & Research



4. Celebrate Divine Guidance



Podcast Host:



Kurt Francom is the founder and executive director of Leading Saints, a nonprofit organization helping Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. He manages the day-to-day efforts of Leading Saints and is the host of the podcast by the same name. Leading Saints has reached individuals internationally and has received over 2 million downloads. Kurt currently lives in Utah with his lovely wife Alanna. They are blessed to have three children. He enjoys drawing caricatures, playing basketball, reading, and watching college football. Kurt has served as a full-time missionary (California Sacramento), as a bishop, 1st counselor in a stake presidency, and elders quorum president.

    Replacing Worry with Pondering | An Interview with Dan Duckworth

    Replacing Worry with Pondering | An Interview with Dan Duckworth

    This is a rebroadcast. The episode originally ran in May 2020. 

    Dan Duckworth is a disciple, family man, and changemaker. As a teacher and coach, he guides elite leaders to the top of their game. He’s the author of Stop Asking Why: Your Purpose is Self-Evident, and president of the Leading Saints Board of Directors.





    Highlights

    05:39: Dan discusses the life cycle of a crisis and creating a “new normal” for Home Church

    11:51: Statistics of geographic areas and types of leaders that responded to survey

    15:20: Bishops in a transactional mindset

    18:13: All about hypothetical worries

    21:14: Feeling like you need to be doing something

    23:32: The Youth Program and God’s plans for 2020

    27:33: Taking a break from worrying to ponder

    30:40: Comparing yourself and your ward to others’

    35:18: D&C 1, Hyrum Smith, and disciplined reflection

    42:28: Creating connections in ministering and knowing what God wants us to do as leaders

    51:02: Knowing the why behind actions you take and transactional mindset vs transformation mindset

    55:45: Reintegrating into regular church life

    58:32: The number one leadership tool

    Links

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    • 1 hr 1 min
    Hidden Leadership Principles in the Lives of Nephi & Jacob | An Interview with Joseph Spencer

    Hidden Leadership Principles in the Lives of Nephi & Jacob | An Interview with Joseph Spencer

    Joseph M. Spencer is a philosopher and an assistant professor of ancient scripture at Brigham Young University. He has a BA in philosophy from BYU, an MLIS in library science from San Jose State University, and an MA and PhD in philosophy from the University of New Mexico. Joseph is the author of six books, including the recently-published Book of Mormon Studies: An Introduction and Guide. He serves as the editor of the Journal of Book of Mormon Studies, as the associate director of the Latter-day Saint Theology Seminar, and a vice president of the Book of Mormon Studies Association. In the church, Joseph has served as an early morning seminary teacher, Gospel Doctrine teacher, a counselor in a variety of presidencies, and currently serves as a bishop. He and his wife Karen have been married 20 years and have five kids.

    Highlights

    01:00 Introduction to Joseph Spencer



    03:40 Advice Joseph would give to his younger self about teaching.



    04:30 How Joseph got into philosophy and how he ended up at BYU teaching religion.



    08:00 Advice to make scripture study better. Slow it down.



    09:50 Joseph talks about his experience as a Bishop and things that have worked.



    13:50 Joseph’s perspective on repentance and how he compares it to the sabbath.



    19:50 What are we missing when we read the Book of Mormon?



    * We are good at connecting with the divine but we aren’t actually paying attention to what is said.

    * We are really bad at getting the big picture.



    26:00 Leadership in the Book of Mormon. Nephi’s leadership and struggle to be a leader.



    37:30 The dynamic between Nephi, Laman and Lemuel.



    44:00 Asking questions and figuring out what your role is as a leader. We tend to want to follow a formula or rely solely on the handbook.



    46:20 Going deeper into Nephi. Joseph shares his perspective on Nephi’s leadership.



    56:40 Nephi and Jacob were able to tell their own stories in the Book of Mormon. They didn’t portray themselves as perfect. They showed us their imperfection.



    59:20 The passage of scripture that Joseph shares with people most often is Ether 12.

    Links

    Book of Mormon Studies: An Introduction and Guide

    Y Religion: Hugh Nibley’s Contribution to Book of Mormon Studies

    Art: Go and Do, by Jorge Cocco

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    • 1 hr 1 min
    The Power of Connection | How I Lead with Kurt Francom

    The Power of Connection | How I Lead with Kurt Francom

    This episode is a conversation from the One Heart One Light podcast with Matt Allred, where Kurt talks about the power of story and how we can connect and find healing through our stories.

    Highlights

    03:25 Introduction to Kurt Francom



    04:40 Kurt talks about his path to starting Leading Saints.



    10:30 The most important thing that Kurt has learned as a leader



    14:20 Master the skill of connecting. Connecting person to person.



    15:00 How do you get people to open up and connect with you?



    18:00 Most people want to share more but they don’t feel safe. As a leader you can help create a safe space for people to share and open up.



    23:45 Worried about oversharing? Share the past transgression because that also shares the past redemption.



    24:50 After Christ’s resurrection He shared his scars. Just as it was important for Christ to share His scars, it’s important for us to share our own scars.



    30:45 What does it mean to bear each other’s burdens?



    32:30 Kurt shares his own personal experience of reaching out to a friend going through a hard time. He has learned to just be present with them.



    34:15 Oftentimes we feel shame just as Adam did in the Garden of Eden and hide from God and others. God is calling out, “where are you?”



    38:00 While service is also a part of bearing other’s burdens, it means so much more when you also have a great connection with that person. You have sat with them and listened to their story.



    38:40 What’s the value of brotherhood? There is a hole in our hearts that can only be filled with brotherhood.



    47:10 Kurt talks about where he plans to go with Leading Saints and his vision for it.



    50:30 Kurt speaks to what he thinks building Zion looks like and what we need to do to get there.

    Links

    One Heart One Light

    YouTube: The power of "story" as it relates to connection, authenticity and redemption

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    • 55 min
    The Leadership of C.S. Lewis | An Interview with Crystal Hurd

    The Leadership of C.S. Lewis | An Interview with Crystal Hurd

    Crystal Hurd is an educator, poet, and researcher from Virginia. She holds a master of arts in Literature from East Tennessee State University, a master of fine arts in Creative Writing from the University of Texas at El Paso, and a doctorate in Educational Leadership and Policy Analysis from East Tennessee State University. Her doctoral research focused on C. S. Lewis as a Transformational Leader. Crystal currently serves as reviews editor for Sehnsucht: The C.S. Lewis Journal. Her articles have appeared in SEVEN, Christian History Magazine, Inklings Forever, Perichoresis, and The Faithful Imagination. She serves as a visiting professor for Northwind Seminary’s Doctorate in Theology and Ministry for Inkling Studies and Romantic Theology as well as the Master's in Spirituality, Creativity, and Writing. Crystal has been happily married for over twenty years to a technology director. They have two boisterous rescue dogs.





    Highlights

    3:30 Introduction to Kurt’s Cohost, Tyler Snow



    4:40 Crystal talks about why she wrote her book about C.S. Lewis



    6:45 C.S. Lewis was a servant and that’s what made him a leader. He was a mentor to many.



    8:40 Summary and life scope of C.S. Lewis



    17:40 Crystal wrote her dissertation on transformational leadership and she explains what it is. She explains how C.S. Lewis embodies this type of leadership and how he transformed the lives of so many.



    21:40 Lewis got a lot of criticism when he wrote The Screwtape Letters. Many people thought he was giving voice and sympathy for the devil.



    24:00 Lewis brought people to Christianity. He went through his own faith crisis and was an atheist for a time. Because of these experiences, he was able to understand the doubts and faith journeys that people go on. He was able to speak to so many through his own experiences.



    28:30 Is C.S. Lewis relevant to modern-day Christians?



    32:30 Crystal gives her advice to leaders on how they can use Lewis’ writing with their congregations



    35:30 Crystal explains different leadership models



    43:00 Being a leader without having a title and what we can learn from that. C.S. Lewis is a perfect example of this.



    47:10 How can we find balance in serving and being there for people while still setting boundaries for ourselves?



    * Delegation

    * Find other people’s talents and build them up



    52:30 Was C.S. Lewis radical in his beliefs?



    55:00 Although C.S. Lewis was considered a saint, he had his personal struggles and he sinned just like us.



    1:01:00 C.S. Lewis was a wounded healer. He was able to help people because he had experienced the same things.

    Links

    The Leadership of C.S. Lewis: Ten Traits to Encourage Change and Growth

    CrystalHurd.com

    Twitter: @doctorhurd

    Instagram: @doctorhurd

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    • 1 hr 8 min
    Love, Share, Invite Isn’t Just a Missionary Effort | An Interview with Jason Noel

    Love, Share, Invite Isn’t Just a Missionary Effort | An Interview with Jason Noel

    Jason Noel currently serves on his stake high council with a stewardship over missionary work. He has served previously as a bishopric counselor, elders quorum president, and as a teacher in Primary, Sunday School, and Young Men. He is passionate about entrepreneurship and developing businesses that reflect and engage his interests. He owns a hot rod shop in Arizona called Fat Fender Garage, that specializes in building custom-classic-trucks and Broncos. They have recently been awarded “Builder of the Year” for the second year in a row in addition to features and awards from numerous shows and publications. Jason and his wife, Jen, share a combined family of eight children in Gilbert, Arizona.

    Highlights

    01:15 Introduction to Jason Noel. His work and church callings.



    05:00 Jason’s approach to love, share, and Invite. He explains what it is and how he uses it in ward counsel. Ward counsel is more focused on people rather than spiritual thoughts, training, or activities.



    13:10 We do not decouple love, share, invite. It is one thing.



    16:30 We need to change how we do ward councils. A great question is, “Who has been on your mind this week?” “What invitation can we extend and who can extend it to?”



    * The ward council doesn’t do all the work but they come up with the ideas and take those to the different organizations.



    19:30 We need to free up some time in ward council. What can we eliminate? What traditions do we need to let go? We need more time to discuss people.



    22:40 Invitations don’t have to be big. They should be small and feel natural. Think of some invitations that you can make.



    24:40 Everything that Jason does in his stake comes back to love, share, and invite. It's teaching, loving, and sharing just the way that Christ did it. It’s not a missionary tool, it’s a way of life.



    27:40 What does it mean to love? Love is compassion and understanding.



    30:50 What is the share component? It’s what either you can contribute or what they can contribute. This is where activities come into play. Don’t have ward activities, have community activities.



    34:30 Making invitations. It doesn’t have to be a spiritual invitation. Jason gives ideas on what invitations to give.



    38:50 People don’t change unless an invitation is extended.



    41:10 Create accountability in ward counsel. Write down what the invitations were and then follow up to see how they went. Maybe they need to be changed.



    42:00 Jason shares thoughts on how being a leader has taught him how to be more like Christ.

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    • 41 min
    How to Use BYU-Pathway in Your Ministry | An Interview with J.D. Griffith

    How to Use BYU-Pathway in Your Ministry | An Interview with J.D. Griffith

    J.D. Griffith is the Vice President of Administration for BYU-Pathway Worldwide, an online higher education organization serving nearly 60,000 students from over 180 countries, and was its first employee in 2009 when he assisted with the creation of the original Pathway program. He previously worked at BYU-Idaho as a faculty member in the College of Business and as an administrator in the Division of Continuing Education. J.D. holds a bachelor’s degree in business management, and an MBA and a PhD in business administration. His previous church callings include bishop, counselor in the bishopric, high councilor, elders quorum president, Young Men president, ward clerk, Gospel Doctrine teacher, and missionary in the Ireland Dublin Mission. He currently serves as a primary activity leader. He and his wife Tasha have five children and one grandchild.

    Highlights

    03:45 Introduction to J.D. Griffith and how Pathway began back in 2009.



    05:50 How is BYU-Pathway Worldwide different from an online university? J.D. explains why this program was formed.



    12:00 While the majority of BYU-Pathway is online, they meet weekly in person.



    14:00 How does it work? Can you get any degree?



    15:40 J.D. talks about who BYU-Pathway is for.



    21:00 BYU-Pathway is so unique and possible through the Church that would not be possible through other universities. The Church has been able to subsidize tuition, use senior missionaries as volunteers, and allow access to the Church buildings to hold classes.



    24:30 What to expect in BYU-Pathway

    Step 1 - PathwayConnect (first year)

    Step 2 - Certification

    Step 3 - Associate Degree

    Step 4 - Bachelor's Degree



    29:30 The first year is a transition into college. It’s about coming together and helping each other on a weekly basis. The first year has life skills, university skills, and other basic classes.



    32:15 BYU-Pathway is for the unemployed or underemployed. It can help them get job ready certificates.



    33:40 How can leaders use BYU-Pathway in their ministry?



    34:50 Leaders can help the young single adults that get left behind when everyone else is off to college by inviting them to do BYU-Pathway. It also helps these individuals get involved in institute.



    37:50 Mission leaders and bishops should offer BYU-Pathway for recently returned missionaries.



    41:15 BYU-Pathway is a great way for a leader to connect with individuals who are less active in the church. It’s less intimidating than inviting them to go to church.



    42:20 Leaders can connect with part member families with BYU-Pathway.



    44:00 BYU-Pathway can help recent converts and help continue to nurture them.



    45:20 BYU-Pathway is also for non-native English speakers. They will have the opportunity to learn English along with the curriculum.



    47:30 How can leaders better promote BYU-Pathway?



    * Find the local BYU-Pathway missionaries

    * Invite BYU-Pathway missionaries to your ward counsel

    * Have a stake education specialist

    * Identify individuals in your ward and talk with them



    51:10 J.D. elaborates more on how special the BYU-Pathway program is and how it can serve so many different kinds of people.



    53:15 Even though the costs are low there are also scholarships available to those who need it.



    54:20 J.D. shares more about himself and his own education.

    Links

    BYU-Pathway Worldwide

    byupathway.org/churchleaders

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