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Leading Saints is a nonprofit organization with a mission to help Latter-day Saints (LDS, Mormon) be better prepared to lead.



Here are 4 ways Leading Saints accomplishes the above mission statement:



1. Connect Latter-day Saint Leaders



2. Enhance Leadership Ability



3. Present Leadership Scholarship & Research



4. Celebrate Divine Guidance



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Kurt Francom is the founder and executive director of Leading Saints, a nonprofit organization helping Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. He manages the day-to-day efforts of Leading Saints and is the host of the podcast by the same name. Leading Saints has reached individuals internationally and has received over 2 million downloads. Kurt currently lives in Utah with his lovely wife Alanna. They are blessed to have three children. He enjoys drawing caricatures, playing basketball, reading, and watching college football. Kurt has served as a full-time missionary (California Sacramento), as a bishop, 1st counselor in a stake presidency, and elders quorum president.

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Leading Saints is a nonprofit organization with a mission to help Latter-day Saints (LDS, Mormon) be better prepared to lead.



Here are 4 ways Leading Saints accomplishes the above mission statement:



1. Connect Latter-day Saint Leaders



2. Enhance Leadership Ability



3. Present Leadership Scholarship & Research



4. Celebrate Divine Guidance



Podcast Host:



Kurt Francom is the founder and executive director of Leading Saints, a nonprofit organization helping Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. He manages the day-to-day efforts of Leading Saints and is the host of the podcast by the same name. Leading Saints has reached individuals internationally and has received over 2 million downloads. Kurt currently lives in Utah with his lovely wife Alanna. They are blessed to have three children. He enjoys drawing caricatures, playing basketball, reading, and watching college football. Kurt has served as a full-time missionary (California Sacramento), as a bishop, 1st counselor in a stake presidency, and elders quorum president.

    How I Lead in New Zealand | An Interview with Wilson Wu

    How I Lead in New Zealand | An Interview with Wilson Wu

    Wilson Wu was born and raised in New Zealand, a convert to the Church, and served in the China Hong Kong mission. He holds a Bachelor of Commerce in International Business and works as a claims manager for a public health insurance company, Accident Compensation Corporation.



    Wilson currently serves in his bishopric and has previously served as a Young Men counselor, branch clerk, counselor in an elders quorum presidency, ward executive secretary, elders quorum president, stake executive secretary, and assistant stake clerk. He and his wife have one daughter.

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    Highlights

    02:40 Introduction to Wilson Wu from New Zealand. He shares his conversion story.



    05:30 Wilson tells about how Leading Saints helped him through a dark time in his life during 2021



    08:00 What the Church is like in Wilson’s ward and stake in New Zealand



    10:00 Wilson’s advice to someone that has been called as a counselor in the bishopric



    12:30 Principle one - Be where the Spirit guides. Wilson shares his own experience of being where the Lord wants him to be and accepting that.



    19:20 Wilson shares an experience he had being where the spirit wanted him to be when he was the elders quorum president.



    22:30 Principle two - Being willing to serve in the invisible callings. Serving quietly and giving the glory to God.



    27:00 Principle three - Loving the people that you serve



    34:40 Principle four - To be a great leader you need to be a great follower



    The Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints' mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org.

    Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, a href="https://leadingsaints.

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    Developing Wilford Woodruff as a Leader | An Interview with Steven Wheelwright

    Developing Wilford Woodruff as a Leader | An Interview with Steven Wheelwright

    Dr. Steven C. Wheelwright is the Edsel Bryant Ford Professor of Management, Emeritus, Harvard Business School. Since his retirement from Harvard, he and his wife, Margaret Steele Wheelwright, have presided over the England London Mission, served at Brigham Young University-Idaho, presided over BYU-Hawaii, and presided over the Boston Temple.



    Steven taught at INSEAD—a private business school in Fontainebleau, France, the Stanford Graduate School of Business where he also served as the chair of the Strategic Management Dept., and the Harvard Business School where he also served as a senior associate dean overseeing the MBA program, then overseeing faculty planning and development, and concluding as chairman of HBS Publishing. He has held endowed professorships at both the Stanford Graduate School of Business and at the Harvard Business School. Steven and Margaret reside in Oakley, Utah, and have five children, 20 grandchildren and three great grandchildren.





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    The Wilford Woodruff Papers

    Images from The Wilford Woodruff Papers: Wilford Woodruff, Mar 8, 1849, Boston, Massachusetts, Wilford Woodruff, Apr 16, 1894

    Latter-day Saint MBA Society Podcast: Steven Wheelwright

    Wilford Woodruff's Witness: The Development of Temple Doctrine

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    2:00 Introduction to Steven. He explains how he is involved with the Wilford Woodruff papers.



    2:50 What are the Wilford Woodruff papers? He wrote 10 times what Joseph Smith wrote. He kept better notes than anybody else.



    8:50 Wilford gave about 4,000 discourses but never wrote them down. He believed to only teach by the spirit.



    11:40 Missionary work and consecrated service. He joined the Church when he was 26. His first mission was Zion's Camp, soon after he got baptized.



    20:50 He felt called to record everything that took place. He said that he felt like a fish out of water until he got something recorded in his journal. The Wilford Woodruff papers are very important to Church history.



    21:45 The impact that the Wilford Woodruff papers has had on FamilySearch. There are about 20,000 people mentioned in his journals. There are about 53 million descendants of these people that have been found so far.



    24:00 Another thing that is unique to Wilford Woodruff is that he wasn’t afraid to open his mouth. Steven tells the story of when Wilford taught at an inn.



    28:30 Stories of when Wilford goes on his mission to England. He was always willing to do and say what the Lord wanted of him.



    31:30 He was an amazing example of exact obedience. More stories of Wilford’s mission.



    34:00 Recap of Wilford’s service, mission, and marriage



    40:20 Wilford and his work in the temple. He became the steward of everything that went on in the temple and helped write down all of the ordinances. There was a continual refinement of the temple ordinances thanks to Wilford.



    43:30 When John Taylor died and Wilford was to become p...

    • 51 min
    Women in Council Meetings | An Interview with Wendy Ulrich

    Women in Council Meetings | An Interview with Wendy Ulrich

    This is a rebroadcast. The episode originally ran in July 2019.

    Wendy Ulrich is a psychologist, educator, and writer. She holds a PhD in Education and Psychology from the University of Michigan and an MBA from the University of California, Los Angeles. A former guest on the podcast, Wendy is the founder of Sixteen Stones Center for Growth and has been a practicing psychologist for over 25 years. She is a former president of the Association of Mormon Counselors and Psychotherapists and a visiting professor at Brigham Young University. Wendy and her husband Dave Ulrich presided over the Canada Montreal Mission and have three children and eight grandchildren.

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    Live Up to Our Privileges: Women, Power, and Priesthood

    The Why of Your Calling | An Interview with Wendy Ulrich

    Sixteen Stones Center for Growth

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    00:48 Wendy’s background as a psychologist

    01:21 Her book Live Up to Our Privileges discusses “What does it really mean for women to have priesthood power”? How do we get it in our lives and use it effectively?

    03:49 How can leaders better understand the experience of women in the Church? What can Wendy share about the female experience of feeling dismissed at church?

    04:47 The work of women is often invisible and misunderstood.

    05:05 Women and men have different styles of communication. Women may find being talked over (a male communication pattern) to be dismissive.

    06:21 Women can feel dismissed by the structure of the Church or even the text of the scriptures.

    07:02 The book is structured after the organization of priesthood offices. Why?

    07:44 The work of women is also captured in the work of priesthood offices.

    08:39 In many cases women do more of the work of priesthood offices during the natural course of their lives than men.

    09:12 Christ was not a priest. He did not hold the priesthood of his day.

    09:50 Women who may not see themselves as holding priesthood may find something to learn from the Savior’s example and authority.

    10:39 Women can say I am doing what I’m doing because of the authority I’ve been given in my calling, my temple endowment, my home, my assignments … I have been given authority.

    11:17 We sometimes project secular perspectives on women and the priesthood and fairness. What can we understand about this topic?

    12:49 We are not going to be the same or have the same opportunities.

    13:33 Wendy believes Church doctrine emphasizes the reason we are here on this earth is to become empowered with the power that God has. We believe the most important thing God is trying to do is to create eternal relationships.

    14:45 What women do and goes unseen may be just as important as what men do in the eternal scheme of things. Even in secular society family is essential, and women are the key “resource” for keeping society functioning

    17:17 The Lord’s priority is raising the next generation of gods.

    17:20 We think God is someone who gives power away. We believe he wants to empower us to be joint heirs—to give us all He has.

    • 1 hr 10 min
    Be the Leader Who Always Knows What to Say: 7 Styles for Guiding Those Who Need Direction in Life | An Interview with Jared Olsen & Matt Brown

    Be the Leader Who Always Knows What to Say: 7 Styles for Guiding Those Who Need Direction in Life | An Interview with Jared Olsen & Matt Brown

    Jared Olsen is a father, husband, entrepreneur, workplace culture enthusiast, millennial, and Nacho Libre lover. His days are spent at JobNimbus in People Experience (PX). He is also the president & co-founder of REYFYA—the first outsourced culture consulting business in the Silicon Slopes—and a board member at Disrupt SLC. Jared was named by Utah Business Magazine as the first-ever "HR Disruptor of the Year". He has an MBA and is SPHR & SHRM-SCP certified.



    Matt Brown is a mentor and coach specializing in leadership, learning, project management, and more. He has worked in real estate and as a police officer, eventually retiring before embarking on a new adventure and earning an MBA. Matt is certified in Strengthfinders and RESPECT styles, and works at JobNimbus as a People Success Coach.





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    2:10 Kurt introduces the episode’s topic and conversation with Jared and Matt. A coaching framework called RESPECT.



    4:20 Introduction to Jared and Matt.



    5:40 Coaching is about creating culture. The origin for the word "culture" in Latin, and means to care. So culture really is caring about people.



    6:50 What is coaching?



    7:45 Both Jared and Matt are certified in RESPECT coaching styles. There are 7 different coaching styles you can use. You can use many styles with the same person.



    12:50 R in RESPECT stands for the RALLIER style of coaching. This style is the driver. Setting goals and measurables. Ways to move the coachee forward.



    16:30 The E in RESPECT is the EDUCATOR. It’s a lecture or education to teach a skill or fill in knowledge. General conference is all about educating. Parenting your child is teaching them and making sure they are learning.



    19:20 The S is for the STRATEGIST style of coaching. It’s finding solutions to problems. They are addressing a problem.



    21:10 The P stands for the PROVOCATEUR. This style of coaching makes people squirm the most. It’s poking a hole in someone’s logic and it’s often speaking the unspeakable truth. Jesus was a great example of a provocateur.



    26:00 The second E in RESPECT is EXPLORE. Asking questions that even you as the coach don’t know the answer to.



    29:20 The C in RESPECT stands for the CONFIDANT. The opposite of the provocateur. They ask about feelings and how the coachee interprets things. It’s like a warm blanket and validation. It’s about listening to work things out.



    32:30 The T stands for TRANSFORMER. You can use this when somebody has gone through something difficult and you can have them reflect on that. This style of coaching can be used to help people see either how far they’ve come or where they could be in six months.



    36:00 When you are coaching,

    Equally Yoking the Elders Quorum & Relief Society | A How I Lead Interview with Aaron Bujnowski

    Equally Yoking the Elders Quorum & Relief Society | A How I Lead Interview with Aaron Bujnowski

    Aaron Bujnowski is a lifelong member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He served in the Chile Concepción Mission and has served as a bishop, stake high councilor, stake Sunday School presidency member, and Seminary teacher. He’s currently his ward’s elders quorum president (for the fourth time) and is an ordinance worker in the Dallas Texas Temple.



    Aaron works as a healthcare consultant. He has bachelor and master of science degrees in Chemical Engineering from Brigham Young University Provo, a Master of Business Administration degree from The University of Texas at Austin, and is currently a candidate to receive a Doctor of Science degree in Healthcare Leadership from The University of Alabama at Birmingham. He and his wife, Julie, are the co-authors of Discovering Your Temple Insights. They have two adult children and live in Frisco, Texas.

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    02:40 Kurt introduces Aaron and their discussion on approaching and shifting elders quorum culture through simple, thoughtful questions.



    04:45 Aaron introduces himself and shares his leadership experience. He wrote an article recently on ministering.



    06:20 Ministering should be something natural and normal. How can we make it simple and show love for our God and neighbor?



    * Ask questions about how they show love in the ward and how they need to be loved. Do this instead of asking if they need anything.



    10:15 Great questions for ministering interviews



    * In what ways did your families need love over the last quarter?

    * How did you find ways to show those families love?



    11:00 Typical answers that Aaron hears as he does ministering interviews and asks about how people show love and connect with the families they serve



    17:00 By changing our questions and having more authentic concern and love, the minister's heart changes and the person who is being ministered to changes also. We want to actually get to know people and not just check the box.



    18:30 The best success you can have is just to show up for people. Be there for them. There is a cultural shift that happens when we consistently show up for people. Can people trust that you are going to be there for them?



    22:00 Creating an equally-yoked elders quorum and Relief Society. Set the standard that the elders quorum knows the needs of the ward just as much as the sisters do. Meet with the Relief Society president outside of ward council to talk about the needs of the ward.



    24:50 Helping the bishop focus on the youth, and how Aaron as elders quorum president supports him by taking care of the adult concerns in the ward along with the Relief Society president



    27:00 Other leaders in the ward can create relationships with the members to take the burden off the bishop. Instead of calling the bishop, people feel more comfortable to go to their Relief Society president, elders quorum president, or ministering brothers and sisters.

    • 41 min
    Is Mental Health Healing Possible? | An Interview with Steven Shields

    Is Mental Health Healing Possible? | An Interview with Steven Shields

    Steven Shields, ACMHC CET1, is a therapist who acts as a guide to help others heal from trauma and addiction. As founder of Unashamed Unafraid, a non-profit organization, he hosts the podcast that shares hope for sexual addiction recovery. Unashamed funds scholarships for people to go to retreats and receive therapy. Steve works in his private practice in Salt Lake City, at OnSite in Nashville Tennessee, and at The Oaks in San Diego California, doing trauma intensives and workshops. His favorite event to speak at is the Warrior Heart Bootcamp.

    Steve Shields

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    The Therapy Buffet: Helping Individuals Heal Through Therapy

    Warrior Heart

    Unashamed Unafraid

    Accepted

    NF: Happy

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    01:45 Introduction. Can mental illness be healed?



    04:40 I’m not just a therapist but a guide.



    06:10 What Steve is seeing most in his office. What are people dealing with the most?



    13:00. When did we quit believing people can be healed? Why do we not believe that mental illness cannot be healed? People are led to believe that they just need to manage their mental health and it’s just something they will always struggle with.



    20:20 Steve shares an experience he had working with a burned out therapist. You can’t give something that you don’t have.



    26:00 As leaders we have to do things in the spirit of healing and love. We have to get back to what makes us feel alive and with the Spirit of God. You have to do your own work so you have something to give.



    28:00 The weight that the bishop has to hold. Just to hold all the weight of everyone else's trauma you need God’s help and His healing. None of us are just all good.



    29:30 We have example after example in the scriptures of mental health problems and the healing. Do we not believe that anymore? We don’t believe that we can be healed? It’s true that some things we have to endure but most things can be healed.



    36:45 Therapy doesn’t heal you. Medication doesn’t heal you. The bishop, yoga class, friend, or a 12-step meeting don’t heal you. God does. He heals you through His son.



    38:30 The bishop doesn’t have to know everything and be everything for everyone in the ward. The bishop can refer members to other leaders in the ward to support them and refer them to programs. The bishop is there to share resources and find the appropriate help.



    46:30 It’s mind blowing that we look for answers everywhere except for Christ. We look for problem solving everywhere except Christ.



    47:30 How does a bishop help people find good therapy that actually leads them toward healing? There are two things that the bishop needs to do. Let people know that Christ can heal your addiction, marriage, etc. Show empathy and provide resources. If one therapist doesn’t work then try another. If one book doesn’t help then try another.

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