Legal Late Night

The Legal Broadcasting Company

Hosted by Jared Correia, Legal Late Night is a weekly, pop culture-infused romp through the latest & greatest business management ideas and technology tips for lawyers, featuring engaging guests, and constructed in the format of an old school television variety show.

  1. Diana Scott on the Future of Managed IT and Managed AI Governance for Lawyers

    4D AGO

    Diana Scott on the Future of Managed IT and Managed AI Governance for Lawyers

    If you’re looking to grow your law firm, stop thinking about hiring "workers" and start thinking about acquiring revenue centers. In this episode, we break down the dopamine hit of growth by acquisition—from snagging an attorney with a portable book of business to buying an entire practice for 1X gross annual revenue. It’s a top-shelf strategy to expedite your total firm revenue and ramp profitability without the soul-crushing administrative burden of building from scratch.  We’re joined by Diana Scott, founder of BlueCastle IT Solutions, who navigated the IT "sausage party" to build a managed service provider that actually makes sense. We move past the era of the "break-fix" guy with mustard on his shirt to a layered approach to data security that’s as essential as the jalapeños on a plate of nachos. Diana explains how to fix the "leaky roof" of your firm's security using the 3-2-1 backup rule and why end-user education is your only hope against phishers. We also address the "cocaine for babies" phase of AI adoption. If you’re giving a third-party AI agent like Claude full access to your desktop, you’re basically inviting indiscernible clumps of "AI slop" into your HR and financial folders. Diana outlines the Managed AI Studio model, using API governance to save money and keep your firm’s PII under lock and key. It’s time to move your law firm IT into the cloud era before your perpetual software drops off the face of the earth. We wrap up with a high-energy spin of the Wheel of Justice, covering everything from prehistoric animals to the legendary "Brass Bonanza" theme of the Hartford Whalers. Whether you’re a "dad core" enthusiast in a heated recliner or just trying to survive the virulent weasels of New England IT, this episode is sterling. Learn more about Diana Scott and BlueCastle IT. Subscribe to our YouTube channel.Follow Jared on LinkedIn. Check out our Spotify Playlist for this episode. We're grateful to be supported by CallRail, Attorney at Work Today, and Lawyer 2 Lawyer. Learn more about CallRail.Subscribe to Attorney at Work Today.Subscribe to Lawyer 2 Lawyer. (00:00) - Intro: Law Firm Growth and Expansion (01:04) - The Reality of Growing a Service Business (01:57) - Acquiring a Book of Business vs. Just a Worker (02:50) - Backups for Retiring Lawyers: Cases for No Money (03:43) - Valuing a Law Firm Purchase at 1X Revenue (05:27) - Meet Diana Scott: From Anthropology to PC Gaming (08:49) - The Auditor's Path: Sociology and IT Work-Study (11:59) - The "Sausage Party": Being a Woman in Engineering (13:24) - Audacity and the Launch of BlueCastle IT (17:23) - The Death of Break-Fix: Why You Need an MSP (19:46) - The Leaky Roof: Selling Invisible IT Solutions (22:51) - The Layered Nacho Approach to Data Security (25:17) - Phishing and Holding the Door for Strangers (26:28) - Handling a Breach: Reporting and Insurance (29:51) - Managed AI Services: Proactive Governance (32:27) - Managed AI Studio: API vs. Desktop Apps (34:16) - The Risk of AI Desktop Agents (38:16) - The Inevitable Move to SaaS and Cloud (40:17) - Remote Support in a Post-COVID Landscape (43:37) - Counter Program: The Wheel of Justice (46:18) - The 3-2-1 Rule for Data Backup (48:40) - Civic Hatchbacks and Sony Blu-ray Laptops (52:21) - Toothpaste Tech: Bite Bits and Paper Straws (53:45) - Brass Bonanza: The Hartford Whalers and UConn (54:56) - Outro: The Castles Playlist Click here to view the episode transcript.

    56 min
  2. Interstellar, Inversion, and International Tax: A Deep Dive with Jamie Zug

    MAY 7

    Interstellar, Inversion, and International Tax: A Deep Dive with Jamie Zug

    Jared Correia opens with a "Homeric catalog" ranking his top five Christopher Nolan films, placing Interstellar at the top of the list for its meticulous execution and devastating emotional core. The monologue also previews Nolan’s upcoming project, The Odyssey, which Jared predicts will be a "straight fire" swords-and-sandals epic. The guest interview features Jamie Zug, a tax attorney and founder of Dispatch Tailor. Jamie shares a unique journey through law school as a single parent, which fostered a deep appreciation for professional flexibility—a core value now integrated into the Dispatch Tailor business model. Jamie discusses the "accidental" love affair with the statutory minutia of tax and ERISA, as well as the transition from government litigation at the New Jersey Division of Taxation to solo practice. A central focus of the conversation is Dispatch Tailor, an operational support program that pairs "executive functioning superstars"—often talented caregivers seeking flexible work—with neurodivergent professionals to manage administrative burdens. Jamie also reveals a cutting-edge approach to AI, utilizing a tokenized "white label" layer that strips personally identifiable information (PII) from data before it hits models like Claude or ChatGPT, then "rehydrates" the response for the user. Finally, the "Counter Program" explores the unique culture of New Jersey. Jamie confirms that full-service gas is a "non-negotiable" luxury for residents and explains the existence of the elusive "Central Jersey". The episode wraps with a look at the "Pine Barrens," a million-acre ecological wonder and home to the legendary Jersey Devil. Learn more about Dispatch Tailor and Jamie Zug Subscribe to our YouTube channel.Follow Jared on LinkedIn. Check out our Spotify Playlist for this episode. We're grateful to be supported by CallRail, Attorney at Work Today, and Lawyer 2 Lawyer. Learn more about CallRail.Subscribe to Attorney at Work Today.Subscribe to Lawyer 2 Lawyer. (00:00) - Intro: Christopher Nolan Rankings (01:05) - The "Dad Core" Cinema of Sir Christopher Nolan (02:02) - Honorable Mentions: Memento and Tenet (06:25) - #5: Oppenheimer and the Barbenheimer Summer (08:27) - #4: Inception and the Art of Subconscious Espionage (10:17) - #3: The Prestige and the Science of Identity (12:40) - #2: The Dark Knight and the Best Superhero Movie Ever (13:58) - #1: Interstellar and the Father-Daughter Love Story (17:00) - Previewing Nolan’s "The Odyssey" (21:19) - Interview: Jamie Zug on Flexible Law School Paths (25:49) - Falling in Love with the Minutia of Tax and ERISA (29:38) - Transgender Advocacy and Local Support (34:28) - Transitioning from State Government to Solo Practice (40:35) - Dispatch Tailor: Supporting Neurodiverse Professionals (43:38) - Managing Talent: Deserving Freedom to Thrive (45:28) - AI Tokenization: Protecting PII in LLMs (49:15) - Counter Program: Shit New Jerseyans Say (50:38) - The Gas Station Commandment: Never Pump Your Own (52:10) - The Mystery of the Jug Handle Turn (55:35) - Coffee Snobbery and Wawa Hoagies (58:37) - The Million-Acre Pine Barrens and the Jersey Devil (01:01:56) - Outro: The "Voyages" Playlist Click here to view the episode transcript.

    1h 3m
  3. People, Process, Tech: Why Your Law Firm Marketing Data is "Dirty"

    APR 30

    People, Process, Tech: Why Your Law Firm Marketing Data is "Dirty"

    Jared Correia kicks us off by tackling the "razor's edge" of associate management: how do you train attorneys to be rainmakers without accelerating their departure to start a competing firm? Jared argues that withholding professional development is a losing game and suggests a joint strategy of "firm-sanctioned" self-promotion—leveraging associate content for SEO/AEO backlinks while providing "swimming lessons" in networking through partner-led mentorship. In the interview, we bring on Ron Latz, founder of Legal Fenix, who shares his journey from playing college hockey and touring in a synth-metal band to becoming a "fractional CMO" for law firms. Ron explains why he launched Legal Fenix to stop the "blame pie" between firms and agencies, emphasizing a "People, Process, Technology" order of operations. We also dive into the "Fenix" merger with Rob Williams (Elevamp), the complexities of HubSpot vs. Legal CRMs, and the critical importance of data hygiene in tracking everything from Marketing Qualified Leads (MQL) to total acquisition costs . Finally, Ron finds himself facing the "Like The Fenix" comeback trivia, proving he might need a refresher on Rocky Balboa. Learn more about Ron and Legal Fenix. Subscribe to our YouTube channel.Follow Jared on LinkedIn. Check out our Spotify Playlist for this episode. We're grateful to be supported by CallRail, Attorney at Work Today, and Lawyer 2 Lawyer. Learn more about CallRail.Subscribe to Attorney at Work Today.Subscribe to Lawyer 2 Lawyer. (00:00) - Intro: The Associate Hiring Tightrope (01:04) - The Risk of Training Future Competitors (03:01) - Developing People Without "Arresting Development" (04:02) - Joint Authorship: Leveraging SEO & AEO Backlinks (04:50) - Marketing Mentors: The "Swimming Lesson" Model (05:47) - Learning from Associates: Using Gen Z as a Focus Group (08:40) - Interview: Ron Latz’s Origin Story (09:33) - College Hockey and the "Beer League" Reality (11:26) - "Up In Arms": The Synth-Metal Band Days (14:06) - School of Hard Knocks: The 15-Year Evolution of Legal SEO (15:06) - Launching Legal Fenix: Cutting Up the "Blame Pie" (17:10) - What is a Fractional CMO? (20:11) - The "Agnostic" Agency Rule: No Kickbacks or Commissions (21:14) - The Dream Team: Rob Williams (Elevamp) Joins Legal Fenix (23:54) - Why Everyone Should Start with the Piano (25:14) - HubSpot vs. LeadDocket: Customization vs. Complexity (26:57) - Order of Operations: People, Process, then Technology (30:47) - The Data Hygiene Crisis: "Garbage In, Garbage Out" (32:34) - Defining Metrics: MQL, IQL, and "Wanted" Leads (35:15) - Blended vs. Channel-Specific Acquisition Costs (38:55) - Counter Program: "Like The Fenix" Comeback Trivia (40:35) - The Rocky Balboa/Bernard Hopkins Confusion (46:26) - The Inventor of the Minivan: Lee Iacocca (46:47) - The Gordie Howe Hat Trick (47:40) - Outro: The "Special" Spotify Playlist Click here to view the episode transcript.

    49 min
  4. Why Trust Is the Strategy & How To End a Friendship with AI

    APR 23

    Why Trust Is the Strategy & How To End a Friendship with AI

    Jared Correia’s "Travels with Jared" series takes us to King of Prussia, Pennsylvania, where the history of George Washington’s winter encampment at Valley Forge meets the rampant consumerism of the third-largest mall in America. Jared recounts his confusing excursion to the "Netflix House"—a theme-park-style entertainment complex that feels like "Satan vomited up the physical embodiment of a streaming service"—and explains why he left with a stuffed Demogorgon and a profound sense of being an "elder millennial" . The interview features the return of Megan Hargroder, founder of Legends Legal Marketing, who discusses reaching the milestone of her 20th employee and her brutal "Hunger Games" style hiring process for search managers. The core of the conversation focuses on the shift from traditional SEO to Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) and Generative Engine Optimization (GEO). Megan breaks down why Large Language Models (LLMs) like ChatGPT and Claude prioritize "trust-based marketing" and authentic storytelling over high-volume, AI-generated spam. They also discuss her new book, Trust is the Strategy, and endure a "Legal Late Night AEO Interview" where Google's AI identifies Megan as a snow leopard and a wandering monk of digital nomadism. Learn more about Megan and Legends Legal Marketing.Email Megan for a copy of her new book. Subscribe to our YouTube channel.Follow Jared on LinkedIn. Check out our Spotify Playlist for this episode. We're grateful to be supported by CallRail, Attorney at Work Today, and Lawyer 2 Lawyer. Learn more about CallRail.Subscribe to Attorney at Work Today.Subscribe to Lawyer 2 Lawyer. (00:00) - Travels with Jared: The "KOP" and Frederick the Great (02:50) - Valley Forge vs. The King of Prussia Mall (04:53) - People Love Arches: The Memorial Arch and Patriots Bell Tower (06:03) - The Netflix House: An Elder Millennial’s Fever Dream (09:22) - Interview Start: Megan Hargroder and Toenail Clippers (11:00) - AI Heartbreak: The Callous ChatGPT Text Message (12:22) - Employee #20 and the Paid Search "Hunger Games" (16:49) - Entering the Era of AEO and GEO (AI Search) (19:22) - Why AI Engines Prefer Trust-Based Marketing and Brands (22:17) - The Power of Context: Keywords in Client Reviews (23:19) - Different Algorithms: Gemini vs. Google Search AI (SGE) (26:57) - Breaking Up with Clients Over 200 AI Blogs Per Month (30:47) - Local SEO: The Case for Manual Directory Listings (33:12) - Brand Consistency: Why You Should Never Make a Second Logo (35:12) - The Future of Paid Ads in Generative AI (38:14) - Book Pitch: "Trust is the Strategy" (40:23) - Counter Program: The Wired-Style AEO Interview (42:38) - AI Identifies Megan as a Snow Leopard (44:41) - Founding a Religion: The Path of Radial Trust (47:44) - The Jeep Wrangler vs. The Public Transit Dream (50:01) - Johnny Cash Coyotes and Louisiana Outlaws (53:04) - Outro & This Week's Playlist: Pennsylvania Rain Click here to view the episode transcript.

    54 min
  5. Real-Time Revolution: How AI is Changing the Deposition Game with Dean Whalen & John Skelton

    APR 16

    Real-Time Revolution: How AI is Changing the Deposition Game with Dean Whalen & John Skelton

    Jared Correia tackles the "Bill Lumberg" problem in the legal industry: micromanagement. Jared explores how managing attorneys can find a balance between oversight and obsession by leveraging modern case management and workflow tools to "observe without being menacing" . Next, the show features a rare "double guest" interview with Dean Whalen, Chief Legal Officer of ReadBack, and John Skelton, Partner at Seyfarth Shaw, LLP. In an incredible trip down memory lane, John Skelton shares the inside story of how he helped keep the New England Patriots in Foxboro in 1993 by leveraging a unique stadium lease to block a move to St. Louis . The conversation dives deep into the future of litigation with ReadBack, an AI-based deposition software that provides "real-time" text to attorneys. John and Dean discuss the massive competitive advantages of real-time transcripts, including the ability to catch non-responsive answers in the moment and search Q&A while the witness is still on the record. Finally, the trio revisits the 1980s in the Counter Program for a high-stakes round of "Guess the Next Lyric," where Dean reveals his surprisingly deep knowledge of Janet Jackson trivia. Learn more about Dean Whalen and John Skelton.Learn more about Readback.Subscribe to our YouTube channel.Follow Jared on LinkedIn. Check out our Spotify Playlist for this episode. We're grateful to be supported by CallRail, Attorney at Work Today, and Lawyer 2 Lawyer. Learn more about CallRail.Subscribe to Attorney at Work Today.Subscribe to Lawyer 2 Lawyer. (00:00) - Intro: Micromanagement and Bill Lumberg (01:04) - The Neurosis of Legal Management (02:08) - Oversight vs. Obsession: The Balance (03:08) - Using Workflows to Monitor Without Being Menacing (04:06) - Using Ticklers and Reminders Effectively (05:56) - Introducing Dean Whalen and John Skelton (07:45) - The St. Anselm College Connection (08:38) - Dean Whalen: The Original Host of Legal Toolkit (10:16) - John Skelton’s Origin Story: From Police Officer to Law Review (12:18) - Bar Prep Rivalries and LSAT Legends (14:40) - The Reality of Big Law Grinds and Remote Work (15:54) - Saving the Patriots: The 1993 Lease Litigation Story (20:10) - Transitioning from Law Practice to Legal Tech (22:25) - The Role of Depositions in High-Stakes Litigation (25:16) - The Problem with Post-It Notes and Paper Discovery (27:09) - Why ReadBack was Developed: Supply, Demand, and Stenographers (28:35) - Meet the "Guardians": AI-Based Deposition Oversight (32:31) - The Competitive Advantage of "Real-Time" Transcripts (36:53) - Rule 28 and the Future of Notary Protocols (38:10) - Lessons from the Pandemic: Remote Deposition Efficiency (42:45) - AI as a Litigation "Equalizer": Briefs and Outlines (44:36) - Counter Program: Guess the Lyric (The Big '80s Edition) (49:09) - The Janet Jackson Super Bowl Trivia Story (58:55) - Outro & This Week's Playlist: Rain Songs Click here to view the episode transcript.

    1 hr
  6. Ditching the Billable Hour: Law Firm Math, AI, and Subscriptions with Mathew Kerbis

    APR 9

    Ditching the Billable Hour: Law Firm Math, AI, and Subscriptions with Mathew Kerbis

    Jared Correia tackles a topic most attorneys dread: Math. Jared breaks down the three essential types of "covert math" every law firm owner needs to master—Business Math, Data Analytics, and Budgeting—to stop making decisions based on gut feelings and start building a lucrative practice. Next, Jared is joined by the "Subscription King," Mathew Kerbis, CEO and Co-Founder of Practi.ai. Mathew shares his journey from a philosophy major and insurance defense litigator to building a "Shopify for law firms". They dive deep into the future of the profession, discussing how AI is making hourly billing obsolete and why lawyers must pivot to transparent, value-based pricing. In this interview, we cover: The "0.3" Moment: The realization that led Mathew to abandon the billable hour.Practi.ai: How law firms can now offer e-commerce-style legal subscriptions and fixed fees.The AI Notebook Future: Using tools like Notebook LM to create curated knowledge bases for clients.Market Disruption: Why law firms that don't adapt to AI-driven efficiency will be "screwed".Finally, in a special Counter Program Double Feature, Mathew quizzes Jared on the history of the billable hour, and Jared fires back with a game of "Unknowable Insatiable Cravings," debating the philosophy of whether cereal is soup Learn more about Mathew Kerbis and Practi.Subscribe to our YouTube channel.Follow Jared on LinkedIn. Check out our Spotify Playlist for this episode. We're grateful to be supported by CallRail, Attorney at Work Today, and Lawyer 2 Lawyer. Learn more about CallRail.Subscribe to Attorney at Work Today.Subscribe to Lawyer 2 Lawyer. (00:00) - Intro & Monologue: Important Math for Law Firm Owners (01:05) - Why Lawyers Avoid Math (And Why They Shouldn't) (02:11) - Business Math & Technical Competency Rules (04:10) - Data Analytics: Turning Covert Math into KPIs (05:09) - Budgeting & Revenue Projection: The 50K Estate Plan Example (08:15) - Interview Start: Meet Mathew Kerbis (09:35) - The Mystery of the Single "T" in Mathew (11:36) - Origin Story: Mock Trials and Symbolic Logic (14:43) - The 0.3 Moment: Leaving Insurance Defense (15:31) - Recapping ABA Tech Show: The Google Workspace Advantage (18:45) - Becoming "The Subscription Attorney" (20:34) - From Coaching to Practi.ai: Productizing the Subscription Model (22:12) - Finding a Technical Co-founder via Y Combinator (24:29) - What is Practi? (Shopify for Solo & Small Firms) (27:48) - Overcoming the Hourly Billing Mindset (28:27) - Using Notebook LM for Curated Client Knowledge (31:13) - AI Pressure: Why Clients Won't Pay for 2-Hour Tasks (33:34) - Savvy Clients and Enterprise Grade AI (36:56) - The Go-To-Market Strategy: "Ask Your Lawyer About Practi" (39:13) - Counter Program: Double Feature Trivia Introduction (40:53) - Flip the Table: Billable Hour History Trivia (47:53) - Unknowable Insatiable Cravings: Is a Thumb a Finger? (49:12) - Is Cereal Soup? (And the Pop-Tart Ravioli Debate) (50:56) - The Straw Hole Philosophy (52:11) - Is a Muffin a Bald Cupcake? (53:42) - Outro & This Week's Playlist: Cross-Genre Covers Click here to view the episode transcript.

    55 min
  7. Fixing Your Law Firm’s Leaky Funnel with Daniel Steinberg

    APR 3

    Fixing Your Law Firm’s Leaky Funnel with Daniel Steinberg

    Jared Correia dives into March Madness, breaking down his top five most impactful NCAA Final Four tournaments of all time. From Texas Western breaking Jim Crow-style recruiting in 1966 to the legendary Magic Johnson vs. Larry Bird showdown in 1979, Jared explores the history of college basketball's biggest stage. Next, Jared sits down with Daniel Steinberg, the Founder and CEO of Lawbrokr. Daniel shares his journey from building partnerships at Clio to launching his own legal tech startup. He opens up about the difficult reality of startup pivots, explaining why Lawbrokr shifted away from a consumer-attorney marketplace model to become a dedicated B2B digital intake and marketing solution. In this interview, we cover: The Lawbrokr Pivot: Why the unit economics of building a legal marketplace broke down, and how listening to customer data saved the company.The "Leaky Funnel": Why law firms need to stop obsessing over raw website traffic and start focusing on actual web traffic conversion.The Human Element: Why the vulnerability of legal consumers means intake processes can never be 100% automated by AI.Agency Partnerships: How Lawbrokr partners with marketing agencies to optimize conversions and prove ROI for law firms.Finally, in the Counter Program, Jared puts Daniel's accounting background to the test in a ridiculous new trivia game called "Boats and Hoes," inspired by the movie Step Brothers. Learn more about Daniel and Lawbrokr.Check out our YouTube ChannelFind more great content at Legal Broadcasting CompanyAnd connect with Jared on LinkedIn. We're grateful to be supported by CallRail, Attorney at Work Today, and Lawyer 2 Lawyer. Learn more about CallRail.Subscribe to Attorney at Work Today.Subscribe to Lawyer 2 Lawyer. (00:00) - Intro & Monologue: The Best NCAA Final Fours (05:27) - #5: The 1991 Rocky Four Final Four (Duke vs. UNLV) (07:43) - #4: The 1982 Final Four (Jordan vs. Ewing) (11:12) - #3: The 1957 Final Four (UNC's Triple Overtime Wins) (12:09) - #2: The 1966 Final Four (Texas Western Breaks Jim Crow Recruiting) (15:33) - #1: The 1979 Final Four (Magic vs. Bird) (20:58) - Interview Start: Meet Daniel Steinberg of Lawbrokr (21:57) - Using ChatGPT as a New Parent (24:26) - Daniel's Background: From Tech Sales to Clio Partnerships (30:57) - The Impetus for Launching Lawbrokr (32:32) - The Hard Pivot: Why the Marketplace Model Broke Down (37:37) - Lawbrokr Today: Digital Intake and Web Traffic Conversion (38:22) - The Biggest Law Firm Mistake: Ignoring Web Conversions (42:21) - Why Legal Intake Will Always Need a Human Touch (45:45) - Partnering with Marketing Agencies (47:16) - The Value of the Legal Conference Circuit (48:46) - What's Next: Lawbrokr Anywhere & Data Transparency (51:58) - Counter Program: Boats and Hoes Trivia (01:02:11) - Outro & This Week's Playlist Click here to view the episode transcript.

    1h 2m
  8. Private Equity in Legal & Building a Binge-Worthy YouTube Channel

    MAR 26

    Private Equity in Legal & Building a Binge-Worthy YouTube Channel

    Jared Correia breaks down a massive shift in the legal industry: the rise of Management Services Organizations (MSOs). As private equity finds new ways to invest in the legal space without violating ethics rules, Jared explains how MSOs are restructuring law firms and why every owner needs to pay attention. Next, Jared is joined by the coolest guest in LLN history, Owen Hemsath (aka Owen Video), CEO of Acceleratus Media. Owen shares his journey from a 10-year stint as a waiter to becoming a YouTube and video marketing powerhouse. In this interview, we cover: Why YouTube is King: Why lawyers should focus on the YouTube/Instagram "one-two punch" rather than chasing TikTok trends.The "One Good Thing" Rule: Stop overcomplicating your marketing. Learn why focusing on consistent video content is the best way to build your brand.Scripting for Authenticity: How a proper video structure (beginning, middle, and call-to-action) actually allows your true personality to shine.Stop Gatekeeping: Why the best strategy is walking clients through the legal processes they fear, rather than creating boring commercials.Finally, in the Counter Program, Jared tests Owen’s knowledge of his adopted home state in a hilarious game of "S* Utahns Say,"** covering everything from "Fry Sauce" and "Jello Salads" to "NCMOs" (Non-Committal Make-Outs). Learn more about Owen "Video" Hemsath and Acceleratus MediaSubscribe to our YouTube Channel.We're actively growing our new podcast network, so check in to find amazing new content.And check out this week's Spotify Playlist. We're grateful to be supported by CallRail, Attorney at Work Today, and Lawyer 2 Lawyer. Learn more about CallRail.Subscribe to Attorney at Work Today.Subscribe to Lawyer 2 Lawyer. (00:00) - Intro & Monologue: The Modern Day Guild Structure (01:53) - Subverting the Ethics Rules: The Rise of ABS and MSOs (03:03) - How Private Equity is Funding Law Firm MSOs (04:05) - The Pros: Practicing at the Top of Your License (05:01) - The Cons: Hollowing Out the Value of Law Firms (06:51) - Interview Start: Meet Owen Hemsath (aka Owen Video) (08:35) - The Steve Jobs Wardrobe & On-Camera Branding (10:27) - The Origin of "Owen Video" & Avoiding the Paparazzi (12:09) - The Origin Story: From Waiter to Multimedia Expert (15:51) - Why Video is the Ultimate Social Media Dominator (17:43) - Don't DIY: Why You Need a Content Strategy (19:35) - Scripting for Authenticity: Start, Middle, Stop (22:19) - The YouTube/Instagram One-Two Punch (24:23) - Long-Form vs. Short-Form: What Works Best? (27:25) - Why Owen Left TikTok (Despite 100M Views) (29:37) - ROI vs. Vanity Metrics: Designing Shows, Not Just Videos (31:45) - Building Video Confidence from Scratch (36:53) - Stop Gatekeeping Your Knowledge (And Stop Fearing Competitors) (38:41) - The Move to Utah: The Second Hollywood (41:54) - Counter Program: S*** Utahns Say (43:33) - Utah Slang: Fry Sauce (45:33) - Utah Slang: Sloughing Off (46:34) - Utah Slang: Dirty Soda (48:25) - Utah Slang: Oh My Heck (50:06) - Utah Food: The Jello Salad (51:24) - Utah Food: Funeral Potatoes (52:49) - Utah Slang: The Jockey Box (54:53) - Utah Slang: NCMO (Non-Committal Make-Out) (56:53) - Outro & This Week's Playlist Click here to view the episode transcript.

    58 min
5
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Hosted by Jared Correia, Legal Late Night is a weekly, pop culture-infused romp through the latest & greatest business management ideas and technology tips for lawyers, featuring engaging guests, and constructed in the format of an old school television variety show.

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