Legal Ops 3.0 and the Future of the Profession: An Interview with Jenn McCarron, President of CLOC

Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast Podcast

Welcome to "Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast," brought to you by Evisort. In this podcast, we explore the transformative world of legal AI, focusing on the innovative intersection of law, business, and technology. Join our hosts, Hal and Memme, as they engage with industry leaders, legal experts, and tech visionaries to uncover the latest trends, challenges, and opportunities in contract management and AI-driven legal solutions.
On this episode, we welcome Jenn McCarron to our show. Jenn is the President of the Board of Directors at CLOC, the largest and fastest growing organization for corporate legal operations professionals. This organization provides expert knowledge of best practices to implement policies, processes and technology from active practitioners who are driving change daily.
Join us as we discuss the evolution of legal operations and the exciting future of the industry. We delve into the different phases of legal ops, including Jenn’s framework for Legal Ops 3.0, which focuses on technology, data, and storytelling. Jenn shares her experiences at Netflix and emphasizes the need for adaptability and embracing change in this constantly evolving field. She also touches on the importance of people skills and storytelling in driving change.
Jenn McCarron is an innovative leader in law technology known for her ability to develop talent, foster growth, and link business expertise with artistry and creativity. Her unique approach — which recognizes that a growth mindset requires a deeply creative process — has enabled her to build teams from the ground up that revolutionize major organizations and the legal operations industry at large.
Jenn also hosts CLOCs legal transformation-themed podcast, “CLOC Talk,” which examines the field's technical and philosophical elements. Like each of her pursuits, the podcast combines technical expertise and artistry—much like her work as a musician, which has spanned decades of songwriting, composition, touring, and performing. She has also led legal operation teams at tech giants like Spotify and Netflix.
Episode Resources

  • Jenn McCarron on LinkedIn
  • CLOC Website
  • Hal Marcus on LinkedIn
  • Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn
  • Evisort Website

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