Black mothers in the U.S. die at three to four times the rate of white mothers. Kim Durdin is fighting to change that. She is the co-founder of the non-profit Birthing People Foundation which trains doulas and midwives of color. And this week, she was willing to take the time to tell Patti and Aleks about the historical context behind the current crisis in maternal and infant health among people of color, as well as other marginalized groups. This is a must listen for all of us.