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Loud Murmurs is a Mandarin-Chinese podcast about American pop culture, brought to you by four bilingual and bi-cultural women in the U.S. and their friends. We discuss movies, TV, documentaries, and the social, political issues reflected on by a piece of pop culture work. Too often, race, gender and other political and cultural issues are the subtext in pop culture. We seek to make the subtext explicit, question it and challenge it. The show is now in its third season, updated biweekly. We have interviewed guests ranging from science fiction writers, comedians, to scholars and journalists. Our goal is to make the most thought-provoking Chinese podcast about American pop culture. 小声喧哗是一档以女性视角来观察和批判影视文本如何塑造世界的播客。《小声喧哗》Loud Murmurs, 是一档以女性视角来观察和批判影视文本如何塑造世界的播客。文化和审美的自觉认同从来都是隐含在创造者对世界的想象中,而这样的想象催生出许多充满偏见的创造动机。这样的创造动机渗透在我们日复一日热爱的欧美电影中,美剧里,渗透在我们对于事物的认知中。今天,我们想要去挑战它。紧跟影视热点和时事的同时,保持了双周频率的持续输出。在制作节目时,小声喧哗经常邀请学者和影评人参与我们的节目,使节目的观点更加多元化和专业。小声喧哗致力在中文世界,做最好的流行文化播客。

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Loud Murmurs is a Mandarin-Chinese podcast about American pop culture, brought to you by four bilingual and bi-cultural women in the U.S. and their friends. We discuss movies, TV, documentaries, and the social, political issues reflected on by a piece of pop culture work. Too often, race, gender and other political and cultural issues are the subtext in pop culture. We seek to make the subtext explicit, question it and challenge it. The show is now in its third season, updated biweekly. We have interviewed guests ranging from science fiction writers, comedians, to scholars and journalists. Our goal is to make the most thought-provoking Chinese podcast about American pop culture. 小声喧哗是一档以女性视角来观察和批判影视文本如何塑造世界的播客。《小声喧哗》Loud Murmurs, 是一档以女性视角来观察和批判影视文本如何塑造世界的播客。文化和审美的自觉认同从来都是隐含在创造者对世界的想象中,而这样的想象催生出许多充满偏见的创造动机。这样的创造动机渗透在我们日复一日热爱的欧美电影中,美剧里,渗透在我们对于事物的认知中。今天,我们想要去挑战它。紧跟影视热点和时事的同时,保持了双周频率的持续输出。在制作节目时,小声喧哗经常邀请学者和影评人参与我们的节目,使节目的观点更加多元化和专业。小声喧哗致力在中文世界,做最好的流行文化播客。

    S4 E27 Dune: Ecology, Hallucinogens, and White Savior Complex

    S4 E27 Dune: Ecology, Hallucinogens, and White Savior Complex

    [Episode theme]


    Loud Murmurs is finally boarding the Dune train. We invited interpreter William White and our listener and ecology PhD Luojun Yang to join the four hosts. 


    We dive into a couple of themes, like the significance of imagining a feudalistic society in the far far future, the technological developments of a post-Butlerian Jihad world, the socio-historical background of Frank Hubert’s novel, spice harvesting and our relationship with natural resources, the white savior complex and colonialism embedded in the book and movie, and last but not least, why we want to see more characters like Jessica. 


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    [Timecode]


    4:53 First impressions of Dune: “I’m one with the music”, “isn’t this just a trailer?”, “this is just the beginning”11:05 Denis Villeneuve versus David Lynch’s version 13:05 The World of Dune: feudalism in a futuristic world, the Butlerian Jihad and why there aren’t smart phones in this world15:52 soft versus hard Sci-Fi16:45 if this story didn’t include aliens, would we still think it’s Sci-Fi? 18:10 Counter culture movement — socio-historical background of Frank Hubert’s Dune 20:56 the dual meaning of spice: hallucinogen and valuable resource (not unlike fossil fuel 22:26 harvesting spice and how it relates to environmental crises stemmed from exploitation of resources 24:51 we want to see more narratives that explore the human-nature relationship as climate change is becoming more urgent 27:34 the course of resources and how Hubert’s approach to ecology is very human-centered 31:08 AD TIME: our four hosts talk about our experiences with NEIWAI products and how “one size fits all” reduces body/cup size anxiety. Use LMM20 for 20% off your purchase or shop via this link.  37:34 white savior complex, colonialism, and cultural appropriation in Dune 42:52 culture adaptation in the original novel45:15 how the movie treated the Fremens, Lawrence of Arabia, and Paul’s fate as a white savior 48:28 William White sharing his personal experience growing up in a pop culture they glorified the white savior narrative 51:32 strong female characters in Dune — Jessica, and how her portrayal differs in the David Lynch version55:44 David Lynch’s Dune and it’s homophobic elements 57:10 the portrayal of the Baron in the two versions59:02 strong female characters in Dune: Chani 1:02:17 what’s the value of Dune being made into a movie in 2021  


    [Host]
    Diaodiao
    Ina
    Afra
    Juan


    [Guests]
    白威廉 (William White)
    Luojun Yang


    [Audio editor]
    Josh Ogden-Davis


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    • 1 hr 6 min
    S4 E26 “The Bad Art Friend” saga and our zeitgeist

    S4 E26 “The Bad Art Friend” saga and our zeitgeist

    [Episode theme]
    Who's the real bad art friend? Well, it depends on who you ask. Our hosts each share their own perspectives on the hottest Internet discourse and dive into a myriad of related topics. 

    [Timecode]
    2:57 what is the NYT Magazine’s “Who is the Bad Art Friend” really about
    6:30 Diaodiao’s perspective: it’s about the power dynamics behind an act of kindness
    11:00 Afra’s perspective: the story highlights the gap between the societal impact and the literary nature of a work of fiction; Sonya Larson’s “The Kindest” portrays highly imperfect characters’ stories. 
    14:00 Ina's perspective: her bias against Dawn (a white female author) influenced her viewpoint and reading experience, but ultimately agrees donating a kidney is the ultimate act of kindness-
    18:00 Juan’s perspective: this is a story about beating someone when they’re already down, stresses Dawn’s identity as a yet-to-be-published author and Larson’s identity as a writer; Larson’s prejudice and othering of Dawn shouldn’t be excused by the reason of creating a work of art
    26:30 Additional context behind live donors for donating organs and how this context changes our thoughts
    33:30 In the ultra-connected social media environment of today, what privileges are afforded to those who are kind? Is it bad to doubt the motive behind an act of kindness? Perhaps. 
    35:33 How did this story become a story about “two female authors pitting themselves against each other”? How are “Cat Fights” and “mean girls” influencing our behavior and becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy? How are female authors repressed in the publishing and writing world? 
    46:00 POCs being hyper-aware of white feminism and its faults 
    49:00 The context around American society and politics that the Chinese Internet discourse missed 
    1:02:00 - An original song! Bonus easter egg!
    Original song by our editor Joshua Ogden-Davis 
    Well I gave away my kidney but my friends don’t even care
    I said I gave away my WHOLE kidney and my friends don’t seem to care an appropriate amount
    But I know up in heaven White Jesus is saving me a chair
    Well I plagiarized a rando but she says she knows me
    Well I plagiarized this rando and she says she knows me
    But she ain’t cool enough for the group chat so she ain’t get no apology
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    • 1 hr 2 min
    S4 E25 The self-awakening of Harley Quinn and Black Widow

    S4 E25 The self-awakening of Harley Quinn and Black Widow

    This episode is brought to you by 7or9 heels — an innovative brand that’s dedicated to making more comfortable high heels for women. Our podcast was invited to participate in their brand campaign with the theme “from pain to joy.” In this episode, we discuss the feminist awakening of female protagonists — specifically Harley Quinn and Black Widow. In the context of Hollywood’s movie-making industrial complex, paired with the awakening of the female consciousness, these two have evolved and became beloved characters that suit the female audience’s requirements. From the design of their storylines to their motives, to the clothes they wear when fighting — everything reflects the current gender dynamics, and we dive right into this discourse. Listen till the end for an Easter egg about our hosts’ fashion ideals. 
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    • 55 min
    S4 E24 Becoming Shang-Chi: An Asian Superhero Origin Story

    S4 E24 Becoming Shang-Chi: An Asian Superhero Origin Story

    [Episode theme]
    In this episode, we talk about the latest Marvel blockbuster, “Shang-Chi: legend of the ten rings.” At the time of publishing, Shang-Chi has become the first pandemic film to gross over $200M at the box office. We dive deep into what we love and appreciate about this film — the various styles of fight scenes, Tony Leung, care paid to language and dialect. And where we find the movie to be falling short — the ambiguity of Taluo, the tired narratives when it comes to womanhood, motherhood, and a woman’s role in the marriage. 
    [Timecode]
    1:19 — Guest intro and first impressions 8:00 — How Marvel creates an “anti-hero” the audience loves (Wenwu) 15: 00 — Are the Chinese dialogue and dialects in this film legit?26: 24 — The references of Wuxia style in this film, and a smart appropriating of Chinese fantasy elements  32: 21 — Awkwafina is the first female Asian character whose main use is to be a getaway driver (we dig) 34: 11 — Is the story of Taluo holding up under scrutiny? What are the weaknesses of world-building in this film, when compared with “Black Panther”? Do we need this type of ambiguity in geography and history? Do we need an Asian “Wakanda”? 49: 00 — Marvel commoditized the identity movement of Asian Americans but did not dig deep into their stories in this film 51: 20 — The movie’s polite but ultimately inadequate nod to feminism 56: 16 — Are we tired of the same old narrative of a woman sacrificing herself for a relationship 59: 00 — As a part of the Chinese audience, how should we understand cultural creations that belong to Chinese Americans? [Guest introduction]
     Frankie: Chinese American illustrator 
     Kao: Host of the podcast “Overcooked” https://overcooked.typlog.io/ 
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    • 1 hr 5 min
    S4 E23 Time Travel Part III: The Tender Relativity of Interstellar

    S4 E23 Time Travel Part III: The Tender Relativity of Interstellar

    In this ambitious three-part series, we want to talk about time travel through some of our favorites ---- Tenet, Loki, and Interstellar. As viewers, we experience movies frame by frame; as human beings, we experience time through the relentless one-way time arrow. Through subverting our familiar narrative structures and disrupting causality, time travel can raise important questions about the universe we live in and its physical rules.


    Time Code
    2:07 A cool anecdote about Chien-Shiung Wu, the female Chinese-American particle and experimental physicist7:14 Our third category of time travel stories, as presented in Interstellar 11:16 Fascinating understandings of time and space that came from the elegant principles of Special Relativity19:00 "High-dimensional creatures" in pop culture and in religion21:10 The inherent tragedy in time -- Eternalism vs. Presentism26:48 The sincerity and fragility of "Interstellar" -- is Sci-fi telling us to be more afraid to face our own vulnerabilities than exploring the end of the universe?

    Our Guest
    Shelly Shi - Ph.D. candidate in UCSD, with research interest in Philosophy of Physics


    Edited By
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    • 42 min
    S4 E22 Time Travel Part II: Schrödinger's Loki

    S4 E22 Time Travel Part II: Schrödinger's Loki

    In this ambitious three-part series, we want to talk about time travel through some of our favorites ---- Tenet, Loki, and Interstellar. As viewers, we experience movies frame by frame; as human beings, we experience time through the relentless one-way time arrow. Through subverting our familiar narrative structures and disrupting causality, time travel can raise important questions about the universe we live in and its physical rules.


    Time Code
    1:45 Our second category of time travel stories, as presented in Loki 4:45 The quantum mechanics behind the multiverse theory, which contrary to popular belief, has more to do with Schrödinger's than Rick Sanchez9:26 What is the Tesseract stolen by Loki? Why can it help Loki travel through time and space?14:23 The existential philosophical question raised by Loki in the multiverse narrative: What makes a Loki Loki, and what makes me me?25:08 Loki’s redemption arc makes for a perfect multiverse story31:44 "Time" under the capitalist system and "nowness" as the way out

    Our Guest
    Shelly Shi - Ph.D. candidate in UCSD, with research interest in Philosophy of Physics


    Edited By
    Valerie Chen


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    • 42 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
157 Ratings

157 Ratings

monijiao ,

Relatable and a rare gem

It’s such a treat to finally have a podcast that helps me to process through documentaries/shows/movies and their broader contexts from a “western” lens yet filtered through a Chinese perspective. Even though I can understand roughly 80-85% of the mandarin spoken on the podcast, it’s very still refreshing for me! Thank you!

CT9200 ,

Hahahaha

Really glad they care about having “mandarin” subtitles because this is so accessible in mainland China right? Where the government treats the people like children and they have o creative freedom? Hahahah that’s funny “#stopasianhate”... you have to stop hating everyone else first you ignorant “mandarins”

Menggmeng ,

Sharp, funny and critical

四个当代中国女性的角度太refreshing啦。解析的角度很细腻。很尖锐,深入,critically engaging的观点和分析。像朋友一样互相讨论很有趣很亲切。非常感激有你们的声音!

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