Could you start a business with your significant other? Would you? Managing Partners is a podcast about the missteps and triumphs of couples in business together. Married small business owners and former journalists Jillian Cohan Martin and Jeffrey Martin are the hosts, engaging other couples in similar situations in conversations that are raw, honest and entertaining.
Managing Partners® - 0204 - Kate & Nick Carter - Saint Friend
This one’s all about trust and belief in each other. Jill and Jeff sit down with Kate and Nick Carter, founders of the creative agency Saint Friend. They’re in the thick of it — new parents to a baby girl, growing and guiding their business through the pandemic, and trying to maintain a culture of calm for their work fam. It’s all working out so far, they say, in large part because of how their partnership brings about balance (10:03).
Nick helps Kate slow down and consider the details (12:32). Kate draws Nick out of his natural introversion (25:08). And they both learned to delegate more to their team. Actually, their daughter forced them to (36:22).
We get into all that, plus how the Carters saved each other from settling for less-than-fulfilling lives (you want to know their secret, don’t you?).
Managing Partners® - 0203 - Justin Miller & Mike Mendiola - Cultured Kindness
Jeff and Jill connect with the husband team behind vegan cheesemaker Cultured Kindness. We learn about their love story (it started with set up by coworkers, 16:51), how Mike eventually gave up fast food and joined Justin in plant-based eating (23:40), why it’s tough to convince moms that entrepreneurship is a viable career path (11:30), and how to keep your sanity — and your partner’s love — while trying to expand your business during a pandemic. All that, plus why getting laid off from a financial services job was the best thing that ever happened to Justin (18:48) and how Mike managed to live with mad-scientist experiments of Justin’s early attempts to make cashew cheese (27:12).
Managing Partners® - 0202 - Mallory Smith & Martin Skegg - Sunday School Wine
Season 2, episode 2
Mallory Smith & Martin Skegg: Sunday School Wine
In this episode, Jeff and Jill catch up with the founders of Sunday School Wine. Mallory Smith and Martin Skegg teach people how to enjoy wine in real life through their (now virtual) wine education classes. Before you think we’ve gone snobby on y’all, this is not the highfalutin’, pinkies-raised wine tasting you might imagine. Martin and Mallory have been known to pair pinot noir with BBQ potato chips and to teach classes about the badass women who made Champagne a thing at the turn of the 20th century.
In this conversation, Martin, a reserved Brit, gets super uncomfortable when Jill asks him about all the feels (46:24), we find out that Mallory fell in love with Martin at a stop light (47:11) and we discuss why boundaries make everything better (35:10). We also touch on how wine earned its pretentious reputation and why it’s cool to throw out the rules.
More about Sunday School Wine
In the news:
· Wine Enthusiast: https://www.winemag.com/2020/10/07/best-budget-virtual-wine-education-programs/
· Good Day Oregon: https://www.kptv.com/good_day_oregon/more/sunday-school-wine-makes-the-grade-for-local-wine-lovers/article_94159bec-ba0a-11e9-95ee-07cca22727c6.html
· Haute Homebody: http://hautehomebody.com/date-night-portland-sunday-school-wine-class/
· Oregon Wine History Archive: https://oregonwinehistoryarchive.org/interviews/mallory-smith-and-martin-skegg/
Managing Partners - 0201 - Malcolm Hoover & Mirabai Collins - Black Futures Farm
Managing Partners Season 2, Episode 1:
Malcolm Hoover & Mirabai Collins, Black Futures Farm
To kick off season two, Jill and Jeff sit down with Mirabai Collins and Malcolm Hoover of Black Futures Farm. These two run a community farm in Portland that is dedicated to the movement toward food sovereignty for Black people (more on that in the links below). Along with running their farm in the pandemic, they also got married this year (in overalls, natch!).
Over virtual coffee, we discuss the value of love that grows over time (18:45); how trust can be hard to come by, but is critical to building something that matters (49:20); and why the men in our partnerships are SO much better at communicating their emotions (37:05). Also making cameos: Ratty ass sneakers, button-down shirts and Lauretta Jean’s pies.
More about Black Futures Farm:
Portland Monthly: “These Groups Are Bringing Black-Led Farming and Food Justice to Portland,” https://www.pdxmonthly.com/news-and-city-life/2020/07/these-groups-are-bringing-black-led-farming-and-food-justice-to-portland
Oregon Public Broadcasting, “A Portland farm seeks to restore Black people to the land,” https://www.opb.org/news/article/black-futures-farm-portland-agriculture-black-food-sovreignty/
East Portland News, “Black Futures Farm grows food, fosters community,” https://eastpdxnews.com/general-news-features/black-futures-farm-grows-food-fosters-community/
More about food sovereignty:
U.S. Food Sovereignty Alliance: http://usfoodsovereigntyalliance.org/what-is-food-sovereignty/
Black Food Sovereignty Coalition: https://blackfoodnw.org/
National Black Food and Justice Alliance: https://www.blackfoodjustice.org/
#BHM: A Brief Look At The Importance of Black Food Sovereignty: https://whyhunger.org/category/blog/bhm-a-brief-look-at-the-importance-of-black-food-sovereignty/
Managing Partners - 08 - Yoonjung Lee & Jesse Hammond, BindlePDX
Episode 8: Yoonjung Lee and Jesse Hammond, BindlePDX (https://www.bindlepdx.com/)
Jill and Jeff sit down with Yoonjung and Jesse, the brains behind BindlePDX, the local online presence connecting communities to local artisans and small businesses. Their goal? Making high-quality local products more accessible while reducing waste from on-demand deliveries. Topics include how Yoonjung and Jesse’s roles are divvied up (10:40); how a two-year-old plays into all of this, including the pace of getting things done and the demands of each other (13:15); is honesty - at home and in business - always best? (19:45); reminiscing on the first time they worked together and the challenges that popped up (24:05); why Jesse is comfortable disagreeing with Yoonjung (27:15); how they got together - spoiler: she wasn’t interested in him at first! (32:40); the fact that Yoonjung has a clear vision for how the world should be, and Jesse isn’t always so sure (36:40); how they execute despite their differences (41:10) and are boundaries being respected? (43:25)
Managing Partners - 07 - Sachi & Lee LeFever, Common Craft
Jill and Jeff sit down with Sachi and Lee LeFever, the co-founders of Common Craft, the originators of the (now) ubiquitous whiteboard explainer video. Despite massive success, they’ve remained small, a two-person shop – Lee’s book on the subject, “Big Enough,” was just released – and they couldn’t be happier. Topics include how having entrepreneurs as parents may have helped with navigating the early days, particularly the decision to stay small (10:48); why they’re playing a different game, why that’s OK and why an alarm clock doesn’t matter (21:50); why traveling with your partner – longer than two weeks – before going into business together is VITAL (24:58); where their love story began – Vegas, baby! – and a first date… with Mom?!? (31:50); Sachi’s unofficial title of CPP – Chief Party Pooper (38:33); is training necessary to do this? (44:45); and how much of our lives should we reveal? (55:45)
"Big Enough" website: https://leelefever.com/bigenough
"Big Enough" trailer: https://youtu.be/FS7VyyPMJDI
Article about aphantasia, a condition Sachi has: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/when-the-minds-eye-is-blind1/
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So Much More Than You’d Think
This podcast is about so much more than couples who run businesses! It is about innovation, entrepreneurial spirit, and community-building through doing business differently, all while acknowledging the work that goes into any partnership! Also, cool businesses discussed. Really compelling and inspiring!