26 min

Marlena Graves — The Way Up Is Dow‪n‬ Renovaré Podcast with Nathan Foster

    • Christianity

"Jesus' way of being lifted up is not the way of the world," says author Marlena Graves. "Nouwen called it downward mobility...You might not win accolades but you will bring great joy to God and you will do much good in the world." She talks with Nathan about her new book The Way Up Is Down.

"Jesus' way of being lifted up is not the way of the world," says author Marlena Graves. "Nouwen called it downward mobility...You might not win accolades but you will bring great joy to God and you will do much good in the world." She talks with Nathan about her new book The Way Up Is Down.

26 min

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