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Ever felt trapped by labels or expectations that just don't sit right? Join us for a deeply personal and enlightening discussion with Norman Tran, founder of Relating Between the Lines. He shares his transition from product design to EQ education, with an unwavering desire to make essential communication skills accessible to all.

Our conversation takes a raw and honest turn as Norman peels back the layers of his challenging journey. From grueling co-founder transitions to the emotional labor of stepping down as CEO, hear about his struggle to shed the expectations tied to his CEO title, a battle that was not just professional but also a deeply personal one.

Finally, we explore how Norman managed to navigate the waters of resistance, both internal and external, to find a resolution that brought him more peace and fulfillment. We delve into the significance of emotional labor, the importance of acknowledging it, and the art of commitment to a larger mission. Through all of this, Norman reminds us that success isn't about titles or roles, but about aligning with our true selves. This thought-provoking conversation promises to inspire introspection and growth.

(0:00:01) - Relating Between the Lines Journey - From product design to education, teaching EQ and soft skills through an experiential program.

(0:09:44) - Navigating Co-Founder Roles and Transitions - Norman's journey of co-founding a business, overcoming emotional resistance, and shedding beliefs.

(0:15:43) - The Struggle With CEO Identity - facing hard beliefs, let go of identity, and overcame insecurities to find his path.

(0:24:18) - Overcoming Resistance and Finding Happiness - Resolving external resistance to reach a mutually beneficial outcome.

(0:30:17) - Acknowledge Pain, Commitment in Partnership - Discussing emotional labor, mission/vision, and finding solutions together.

📢Program mentioned

* Relating Between The Lines [http://relatingbetweenthelines.com/] - Last cohort: Apply by Mid-October 2023.

👋 Connect with Norman

* Twitter: @norman_tran  [https://twitter.com/norman_tran]
* NormanTran.com [https://www.normantran.com/]

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David Bradford, co-author of Connect: Building Exceptional Relationships with Family, Friends, and Colleagues [https://amzn.to/3X1tmyF], shares how to deepen relationships and others and through that, deepen our own understanding of ourselves as well.

At the end of this episode, you'll learn the 6 key characteristics of what makes an exceptional relationship, how to build that relationship with anyone, and how mastering human interactions come down to understanding & respecting the 3 Realities.

We even have an impromptu practice session on self-disclosure. This was an eye-opening conversation!

Topics Explored:

* Role of emotions in conversation & why you need it.
* 6 Key Characteristics of Exceptional Relationships.
* Self-disclosure vs Vulnerability.
* 15% rule of self-disclosure - Why not share everything with everyone?
* 3 Zones of Comfort, Learning, and Danger
* How you can be more Yourself.
* 3 Realities of any interaction (Intention, Behavior, and Impact of behavior)
* Stick with reality & ask questions.
* How conflict strengthens relationships.
* How "It takes 2 to know 1."

Resources mentioned:

* Connect: Building Exceptional Relationships with Family, Friends, and Colleagues [https://amzn.to/3X1tmyF]

👋 Connect with David!

* www.ConnectAndRelate.com [http://www.connectandrelate.com/]

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Laura Garnett, author of The Genius Habit, helps high-achievers reach their goals in half the time they expect with less stress, zero burnout, and never-ending joy by helping them find their Zone of Genius.

And she couldn't have gotten to where she is without figuring out her OWN Zone of Genius first - and it all started with what she now calls her best career move: getting fired.

If you find yourself chasing achievements while never feeling satisfied or looking up to others instead of paying attention to how YOU feel, then Laura's insights can help you finally make sense of yourself!

Topics Explored:

* How getting fired turned out to be the best career move for her, even though she didn't know it at the time.
* From thinking "I am the problem" to "How can I create job that's the extension of who I am?"
* Your Core Emotional Challenge and how it helps you track your Zone of Genius.
* Zone of Genius Framework.
* Why most people don't know their "flavor" of engagement and/or intrinsic motivation.
* When you're doing what you thought you should, yet you don't feel good. "In the absence of connection to yourself, you're using what OTHERS expect."
* Why moments of disconnect can be a celebration!
* How Purpose ties in with Intimacy. Work and Relationships are very similar.
* The Habit of Being Who You Are in ALL areas of life.

Resources mentioned:

* The Genius Habit book [https://amzn.to/3YsGnSM]
* Zone of Genius Quiz [https://lauragarnett.com/zone-of-genius-quiz-start/]
* Free Tools & Trackers [https://lauragarnett.com/tools/] for finding your zone of genius in Work, Relationships, and Life

👋 Connect with Laura!

* LauraGarnett.com [https://lauragarnett.com/]
* LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauragarnett/]
* IG: @lauragarnett1 [https://www.instagram.com/lauragarnett1/]

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Amanda Leaveck, former neuroscientist turned Founder of Science & Magic, specializes in helping high-achieving, workaholics slow down, find balance, and uncover high levels of creativity.

But she didn't always know this was what she wanted to do. She learned that on the path to following her truth, she had to LET GO of many layers of belief and identity conditioning along the way.

Topics Explored:

* How neuroscience + dance led her to her current work.
* When to let "your baby" (a work you like but isn't the right one) go.
* Finding bodywork through grief.
* What listening to your body meana.
* Brain vs heart-based decision making.
* When and how to "let go."
* Instead of trying to "figure it out," create more space for more ideas to come. "The best ideas come to us. We don't seek them out."
* Why rest is productive.
* Magic = the "I don't know" (and why embrace it)
* Rituals to set rhythms of life vs "managing" a schedule.
* Belief in a greater power.

👋 Connect with Amanda!

* AmandaLeaveck.com [http://amandaleaveck.com/]
* Insight Timer [https://insighttimer.com/amandaleaveck]
* Science & Magic Podcast [https://amandaleaveck.com/science-magic-podcast/]
* Science & Magic YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@sciencemagicwithamandaleaveck]

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Richa Prasad, Co- Founder & CEO of Coach Viva [https://www.youtube.com/c/coachviva], shares how she went from not-knowing-what-to-do - to working for big tech - to founding a behavior change-based weight loss company that happily marries her passions + purpose + love of learning.

She got here by experimenting with what I call "Life Pivots," experience-driven experiments that weren't haphazard, but done "on purpose" by continuously fine-tuning and following her inner guidance system. You may completely change the way you approach life and how you question your own thinking after listening to this episode! 

Topics Explored:

* Deciding on cultural fit.
* How university + tech experience taught her what she REALLY loves.
* Don't sit down to "figure out passion" - Instead, use previous experience + feelings to decide what to try next.
* Lifestyle-driven decision-making
* Commit to a decision WHILE making room for Informed Mind-Changing
* Spot hints of what's meant for you vs what you think you SHOULD do.
* "What is the life I want to live?"
* Why time & energy is never truly "wasted" when you do things that aren't aligned.
* "If you enjoy it and love it, even if you stop doing it, it comes back into your life."
* What it really means to "enjoy your work."
* "Is this an internal story or is this actually related the subject?"
* Are you playing the Game vs Meta-game? Choosing the wrong game can take you down the wrong direction.
* How everyone defines "meaning" differently.
* Why create a company around health, fitness, and behavior change?

Mentioned in the show:

* Coach Viva YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/c/coachviva]
* Badass Body Boss [https://www.coachviva.com/resources/badass-body-boss-sneak-peek]
* A Short History of Nearly Everything [https://amzn.to/3I98YYh]

👋 Connect with Richa!

* Twitter: @iamrichaprasad [https://twitter.com/iamrichaprasad]

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Paul's an independent writer, freelancer, coach, digital creator, and author of The Pathless Path [https://amzn.to/3xUUYeb] - a story about finding yourself in the wrong life, and then doing the REAL work of figuring out how to live. Through experimentation (learning through living!), Paul pieces together a set of ideas and principles that guide him from unfulfilled & burned out to a more purposeful life.

The Pathless Path is about leaving a path centered around "getting ahead" (Default Path) and instead focusing on doing work that matters to YOU (Pathless Path) without blowing up your life.

If you're considering leaving your job, embarking on a new path, and dealing with the uncertainty of leaving the default path, then you don't want to miss today's conversation!

Mentioned in the show:

* The Pathless Path [https://amzn.to/3xUUYeb] by Paul Millerd

👋 Connect with Paul!

* Twitter: @p_millerd [https://twitter.com/p_millerd/]
* Think Boundless [https://think-boundless.com/]

Topics Explored:

* 1:41 - What it's like going from Default Path -> Pathless Path
* 6:35 - What makes someone more suited to the Pathless vs Default Path?
* 9:26 - How to trust that answers will emerge as a by-product of living your life? (I.e., how to not blow up your life if you don't have a plan)
* 18:05 - Why it takes more energy to hold yourself back.
* 21:34 - 2 Biggest Fears: Money & Relationships
* Importance of getting clear on WHY you need money
* 28:25 - First principle thinking
* Start with the question!
* 30:23 - Why do some people shed negative light on our choices?
* 36:12 - Loneliness & the Aspirational Journey
* 42:05 - The importance of thinking Trade-offs (be experimental, but don't be naive)
* 50:00 - Carving out space to find things worth doing for the sake of it.
* 52:35 - For most of human history, Leisure was the default.
* 54:17 - Finding your tribe.
* 59:18 - The myth of choosing between Family vs Work.

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