16 episodes

Life is Messy. But in the mess, there’s always a message. Life is always teaching us — attempting to awaken us — to live more fully from our true authentic self. Husband and wife duo, Joel and Casey Johnson, invite you to join them on their brave journey into vulnerability. Their hope is that through this podcast, you will find the purpose in your pain, the message in your mess and discover that you are more brave, courageous and strong than you could have ever imagined. Welcome to Messy Life!

Messy Life Podcast Dr. Joel and Casey Johnson

    • Society & Culture
    • 4.9 • 137 Ratings

Life is Messy. But in the mess, there’s always a message. Life is always teaching us — attempting to awaken us — to live more fully from our true authentic self. Husband and wife duo, Joel and Casey Johnson, invite you to join them on their brave journey into vulnerability. Their hope is that through this podcast, you will find the purpose in your pain, the message in your mess and discover that you are more brave, courageous and strong than you could have ever imagined. Welcome to Messy Life!

    Season Two Ep. 016 // Social Distancing Date Night Challenge: "Fight Night Heroes" (Date 3 of 3)

    Season Two Ep. 016 // Social Distancing Date Night Challenge: "Fight Night Heroes" (Date 3 of 3)

    DOWNLOAD: NOTES & ACTIVITY (DATE 3 OF 3) http://joeljohnson.org/datenight/date-3-details

    DO YOU FIGHT LIKE A HERO?

    In this hilarious episode Joel and Casey will teach you how to cut your fight time down by 90%! That means more time for loving and less time in conflict, who doesn’t want that?!

    You'll discover more about your (and the ones you love) apology language!

    If you missed Date 1 or 2 “Mind the Gap” or “Trust Factor,” we got you! Simply go to joeljohnson.org/datenight to download your FREE Date Night Activity and watch!

    • 33 min
    Season Two Ep. 015 // Social Distancing Date Night Challenge: "Trust Factor" (Date 2 of 3)

    Season Two Ep. 015 // Social Distancing Date Night Challenge: "Trust Factor" (Date 2 of 3)

    DOWNLOAD: NOTES and Date Night ACTIVITY - http://joeljohnson.org/datenight

    Great marriages “SYNERGIZE.” To experience synergy, couples must move beyond PREDICTIVE TRUST into VULNERABILITY-BASED TRUST. This changes everything in a marriage! 🤵🏼👰🏾

    Joel & Casey will teach you how!

    If you missed Date # 1, “Mind the Gap,” we got you! Please listen to podcast episode 14 or go to http://joeljohnson.org/datenight to watch and download your FREE Date Night Activity!

    • 32 min
    Season Two Ep. 014 // Social Distancing Date Night Challenge: "Mind the Gap"(Date 1 of 3)

    Season Two Ep. 014 // Social Distancing Date Night Challenge: "Mind the Gap"(Date 1 of 3)

    Mind the Gap (Date 1 of 3): DOWNLOADS - Notes & Date Night Activity at joeljohnson.org/datenight

    Even in the best marriages, there are relational gaps that must be minded to. Bridging those gaps is a natural part of every healthy marriage. In great relationships, partners practice the art of falling in love over and over again. In this first Social Distancing Date, Joel and Casey Johnson will teach how.

    Social Distancing should not mean the end of your dating life! Hallelujah! This marks the end of your dating quarantine! Join Joel & Casey Johnson, professional marriage coaches, for the Social Distancing Date Night Challenge! Three fun (and free) quarantine dates that will move your marriage forward! No need to go out, because the Johnson's are bringing date night to you! For all the details head to joeljohnson.org/datenight

    • 28 min
    Season Two Ep. 013 // Navigating Manipulative Leaders

    Season Two Ep. 013 // Navigating Manipulative Leaders

    In this episode, Joel and Casey Johnson talk about how to discern and navigate manipulative leadership.

    A master manipulator can be so magnetic the people unknowingly submit their sense of security to that person, relinquishing there God-given responsibility to govern their own lives, to a spiritous figure who says to them, "trust me, do what I say and everything will be fine."

    But Sadly...

    Controlling, bully-type personalities are often secretly afraid, according to enneagram experts, Russ Hudson and Don Risso. They go on to explain that many maipulators and abusers encountered sever abuse as a child and subconsciously believe people are out to get them. They make themselves big, attempt to sound tough, intimidating others and rarely, if ever allow themselves to be vulnerable. They see no dissonance posing as the righteous hero, all the while lying, cheating and deceiving to protect themselves and their empire.

    In this episode, Joel + Casey talk about:
    - The 5 Characteristics of a Manipulative Leader
    - The 9 Signs of when to leave an Organization (and)
    - Joel and Casey's Real-life experiences with Manipulative Leaders

    "A true leader seeks to serve people, not control them." - Joel Johnson

    • 41 min
    Season One Ep. 012 // Enneagram Typology (Part 2)

    Season One Ep. 012 // Enneagram Typology (Part 2)

    Identifying your own personality and the personalities of others is the road to greater compassion for all. It allows you to extend infinitely more grace and understanding to others and, more importantly, yourself. Personality tools like Myers-Briggs and the Enneagram are incredibly helpful in the journey of self-awareness and other centeredness. Understanding personalities shows us that "we can’t change the way other people see, but we can try to experience the world through their eyes and help them change what they do with what they see" says Ian Morgan Cron.

    Thich Nhat Hanh explains this well. He says, “When our hearts are small, our understanding and compassion are limited, and we suffer. We can’t accept or tolerate others and their shortcomings, and we demand that they change,” he says. “But when our hearts expand, these same things don’t make us suffer anymore. We have a lot of understanding and compassion and can embrace others. We accept others as they are, and then they have a chance to transform.”

    If you want to see a real change in the people you work with, your family or your spouse, the first step starts with understanding them and yourself better.

    Think on what Thomas Merton said:

    “The beginning of love is the will to let those we love be perfectly themselves, the resolution not to twist them to fit our own image. If in loving them we do not love what they are, but only their potential likeness to ourselves, then we do not love them: we only love the reflection of ourselves we find in them.”

    In this episode, Joel + Casey talk about:
    1.)How to Identify your co-worker's, family's and spouse's personality type
    2.)Understanding Enneagram Personality Types
    3.)How to live with more grace and compassion for others and yourself


    SHOW NOTES at joeljohnson.org/podcast

    (SHOW NOTES - include a detailed summary of this podcast episode, with links discussed, materials and free stuff! Enjoy!)

    • 24 min
    Season One Ep. 011 // Enneagram Typology (Part 1)

    Season One Ep. 011 // Enneagram Typology (Part 1)

    Identifying your own personality and the personalities of others is the road to greater compassion for all. It allows you to extend infinitely more grace and understanding to others and, more importantly, yourself. Personality tools like Myers-Briggs and the Enneagram are incredibly helpful in the journey of self-awareness and other centeredness. Understanding personalities shows us that "we can’t change the way other people see, but we can try to experience the world through their eyes and help them change what they do with what they see" says Ian Morgan Cron.

    Thich Nhat Hanh explains this well. He says, “When our hearts are small, our understanding and compassion are limited, and we suffer. We can’t accept or tolerate others and their shortcomings, and we demand that they change,” he says. “But when our hearts expand, these same things don’t make us suffer anymore. We have a lot of understanding and compassion and can embrace others. We accept others as they are, and then they have a chance to transform.”

    If you want to see a real change in the people you work with, your family or your spouse, the first step starts with understanding them and yourself better.

    Think on what Thomas Merton said:

    “The beginning of love is the will to let those we love be perfectly themselves, the resolution not to twist them to fit our own image. If in loving them we do not love what they are, but only their potential likeness to ourselves, then we do not love them: we only love the reflection of ourselves we find in them.”

    In this episode, Joel + Casey talk about:
    1.)How to Identify your co-worker's, family's and spouse's personality type
    2.)Understanding Enneagram Personality Types
    3.)How to live with more grace and compassion for others and yourself


    SHOW NOTES at joeljohnson.org/podcast

    (SHOW NOTES - include a detailed summary of this podcast episode, with links discussed, materials and free stuff! Enjoy!)

    • 31 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
137 Ratings

137 Ratings

Yep Yeah Yes ,

Loved loved loved

I just finished listening to the 1 st podcast and needed to hear the rawness of Casey’s messy and ugly truth of not facing the messiness of pain! What creates strength and resilience and endurance - PAIN - yesss. I will continue to listen to this awesome as I go through one of my pains of exercising and eating healthy.

happinessthroughgrace ,

Freedom and truth

Joel and Casey are so real, raw, and respectful in how they facilitate the podcast, sharing very hard things to help listeners understand that the mess in our life may be a way God gets us to move down the path we were meant to go and build our strength. Great job Joel and. Casey! I can’t wait to hear more!!
I literally sat one morning and listened to the first three podcasts right in a row. Many ah-ha moments “knocked” on my door which gave me freedom to live my own truth, validate my own feelings, and be proud of myself for living a life of integrity.

Ju Ju Beee ,

Sharon must be the bomb!

I love how raw y’all get! Can I meet Sharon so she can be my counselor too! Does she make house calls?! A sista needs her ASAP! 🤣 the real deal is this podcast! I’ve listen too it twice! I had to take notes!

Top Podcasts In Society & Culture

This American Life
This American Life
Stuff You Should Know
iHeartPodcasts
MeSsy with Christina Applegate & Jamie-Lynn Sigler
Wishbone Production
The Viall Files
Nick Viall
Shawn Ryan Show
Shawn Ryan | Cumulus Podcast Network
Freakonomics Radio
Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher