This podcast exists for entrepreneurs who want three things...You want to be famously influential to the right people...you want to teach, train and lead others so you make an impact...and you want to enjoy your life along the way.
I'm your host, Matt Johnson, agency founder and author of MicroFamous. I'm obsessed with ideas and principles that stand the test of time, and in these 10-20 minute episodes I bring those ideas and principles to you.
If you follow folks like Tim Ferris, Ryan Holiday, Seth Godin, Robert Greene, or Richard Koch, this might be your new favorite show.
Emma-Louise Parkes on Why Creative Introverts Struggle to Niche Down
For creative entrepreneurs, there’s always a tension between the creative projects we want to undertake, and the need to make it easy for people to understand the niche we fit into.
It doesn’t make sense for us to be everything to everyone, but niching down is challenging because it feels like we’re giving up our creative fulfillment.
Can we niche down and still have room for creativity? How do we know we’re on the right track when it comes to finding the right niche?
In this episode, I’m joined by business and mindset coach, and the founder and CEO of The Ambitious Introvert, Emma-Louise Parkes. She shares how to shift the way we present ourselves in the market, and why it’s such a valuable exercise.
3 Things You’ll Learn From Emma-Louise Parkes;
Why we have to accept pivoting and changing niches without self-judgment
The struggle creatives have with niching down
Why she deletes work-related apps off her phone every night
Emma Louise-Parkes is a business and mindset coach, and the founder and CEO of The Ambitious Introvert. She helps high-level introverts, empaths and HSPs create the strategy and mindset for massive success. Emma-Louise is an 86% introverted INFJ-A who is passionate about helping ambitious introverts, empaths and HSPs build successful, sustainable businesses they love.
Listen to Emma-Louise’s podcast, The Ambitious Introvert https://emmalouiseparkes.com/podcast (here) and join The Ambitious Introvert Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/introvertnetwork/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/introvertnetwork/).
Should you shorten up your average episode?
Joe Rogan is the exception that proves the rule.
For every 3 hour episode of Joe Rogan, there's a podcast that is shortening up their average episode.
And rightfully so, I think.
We're going on 10+ years of long-form interview podcasts, and the format itself is no longer rare and valuable.
So either your topic must be incredibly rare and valuable, or it's time to shorten your average episode to deal with shrinking attention spans.
Here are my 3 best tips to shorten your average episode, starting with Guest episodes.
1. Set Expectations before hitting Record.
I let my guests know that my goal is to have a fun, fast-paced 30 minute chat that covers a few compelling topics.
We spend enough time before hitting Record that I know roughly what topics we'll start with, so I can tease those for the audience right away.
Then as I spot juicier, more interesting topics, we might go off on a tangent. But I try not to cram too many topics in, that's where you get into 45 minute-plus conversations.
I remember being on a podcast as a guest a couple years ago.
We were recording within 5 minutes of jumping on the Zoom session. As a guest, it feels super weird and you have no idea where you stand. Am I taking too long to answer each question? Should this be relaxed and slow-paced, or should this be rapid fire? Am I giving the host what the audience will want?
It was like flying blind, and you never want to make your guests feel like that.
So set good expectations, and most guests will try to give you exactly what you ask for.
2. Open Strong.
One thing that keeps your average episode long is asking the guest about their background too soon.
This invitation to share their background slows down the pace and tends to start at the very beginning of their story. We've all heard it.
"Well, it started on a dark and stormy night at the hospital in 1957. I was a strapping 11 lb 4 oz baby boy, and I took my time coming. "
No one wants that.
Think of a Bond movie like Casino Royale or Spectre.
You want to start with an action scene.
Then you reset and slow down, go back to the beginning.
Depending on what kind of podcast you're running, you can start strong in different ways.
If you run a business podcast where people expect actionable tips and tactics, start with that. Invite the guest to share something actionable as soon as possible.
If you run a podcast more focused on inspiring stories, start with a question about one specific anecdote from their life. Something that hooks the audience's attention, builds the guest's credibility and sets up the audience to be interested in hearing the rest of their story.
Managing the guest's expectations and helping them start strong will go a long way toward producing fast-paced guest episodes that hold your audience's attention.
That brings us to the last way to shorten up your average episode...
3. Publish solo episodes. Just you talking directly to your audience.
I'm a big advocate of solo episodes, at one point this podcast was ALL solo episodes, nothing but me teaching and sharing.
I'm mixing it up more now, but I encourage all my clients to include at least one or more solo episodes per month. That's part of my Weekly Podcast Formula.
Especially if you're in coaching or consulting, you are selling YOU.
In order to sell access and proximity to you, your audience has to trust you and come around to the way you see the world.
They can get some of that from the conversations you have with guests, but they'll get a lot more from solo episodes. Just you and the audience.
The example I gave in the MicroFamous book is Barbara Walters.
While she's a skilled interviewer and journalist, I don't know what she actually believes about the world. I have no idea whether she actually likes her guests. She's a vehicle for their story, and her...
Monica Parkin on Overcoming Awkward & The Introvert's Hidden Superpowers
As introverts, it often feels like other people can’t relate to our inner experience. We feel awkward in social situations, and work really hard not to convey that awkwardness to others. Our extrovert counterparts can perceive our behavior as stuck up and antisocial, and advice to just “be ourselves” feels rich coming from naturally gregarious people.
But what if more people share this experience than we believe, and what if there was a way to change our mindset and create the motivation to put ourselves out there?
In today’s episode, I’m joined by Monica Parkin, the author of "Overcoming Awkward, an Introvert's Guide to Networking, Marketing and Sales." She shares why putting ourselves out there as introverts is a lot easier than we think.
Things You’ll Learn from Monica Parkin;
The surprising feedback she got from extroverts about the book
How to take part in speaking engagements without taxing yourself
The introvert super power we don’t tap into enough
The interesting science-backed distinction between introverts and extroverts
Monica Parkin is an international speaker, podcast host, mortgage broker and author of "Overcoming Awkward, an Introvert's Guide to Networking, Marketing and Sales." The book is written to free introverts from the crippling social constraints that come with launching and growing their businesses and careers. For more information and to buy the book, head over to https://www.monicaparkin.ca/ (https://www.monicaparkin.ca/).
Want to be Joe Rogan Famous? Here's How
This might be an odd thing for me to talk about.
I spend all my time helping entrepreneurs and experts become MicroFamous. So what do I know?
Yet there are some really critical lessons we can all take from Rogan’s history.
There is no original reporting or investigative journalism or exclusive interview here.
But I am going to tie together the 4 big cultural waves that propelled Joe Rogan to being mega-famous.
That way we can be on the lookout for similar opportunities in our own world, big or small.
Let’s start with a rough timeline.
You’ve got Rogan’s childhood scattered, where among other things, he picks up tae kwon do and ends up winning a US Open Championship and doing some martial arts teaching.
He gets started in stand up comedy in the late 80s going into the 90s.
He moves to LA, gets picked up by Disney on a development deal and ends up on a sitcom called Newsradio. You might remember that as the last thing Phil Hartman did before his unfortunate death. Newsradio runs from 1995-99.
This whole time he’s followed the UFC from almost the very first event. The live event UFC 5 takes place about a month after the first episode of Newsradio airs.
In 1997, while Newsradio is still on TV, Rogan starts doing backstage and post-fight interviews, does that for a couple years but leaves and doesn’t reconnect with UFC till after 2001.
So Newsradio ends in 99, Rogan is working on a sitcom loosely based on him, when the opportunity comes to host Fear Factor instead. Fear Factor was NBC’s answer to Survivor, which launched earlier in 2001.
Fear Factor does really well for a few years before it starts to lose steam. By this time Rogan is working with the UFC again, now partially under Dana White, and is doing color commentary.
UFC starts to explode in the mid-2000s, that’s when even I was paying attention. All the UFC names I remember were active around this time. Georges St Pierre, Anderson Silva, Frank Mir, Rich Franklin, Ken Shamrock, BJ Penn, Tito Ortiz.
Around the time Fear Factor is on the way out, the UFC launches its own reality TV show, The Ultimate Fighter. It went a long way toward helping the UFC hit a mainstream audience. I remember talking over the fighters with guys in the office I worked in at the time.
So Rogan is doing color commentary for UFC as it’s exploding in popularity, this is mid-2000s. This is the period where Chuck Liddell hits the cover of ESPN magazine. UFC goes mainstream and Rogan is there for that ride.
Then we come to 2009 when Rogan launches his podcast, and by August 2010 it hits the iTunes Top 100, and the rest is history.
Now, let’s dive into what happened and all the things that had to come together for Rogan to become mega-famous.
1. Rogan got into stand up comedy at the tail end of the 80s stand up boom. That boom turned to bust by the mid-90s, which is when Rogan pivoted to Newsradio.
2. Newsradio catches the 90s sitcom boom, launching less than a year after Friends. In fact, the lead in show for Newsradio when it launched was Wings, to give you an idea of how good of a head start it was given.
3. Meanwhile, a few years later as Newsradio is losing steam, reality TV is starting its boom. The Real World was well known, but reality TV as we think of it today started more with shows like American Idol and Survivor.
That’s when Fear Factor comes along, and Rogan is able to ride the wave of reality TV in the early 2000s.
4. The UFC wave really gets going in the mid-2000s with Rogan doing color commentary and cracking jokes in front of millions of pay-per-view subscribers.
5. While riding the UFC wave, Rogan parlays that into more stand up gigs and then launches the podcast in ’09.
To give you an idea of timing, Adam Carolla launched his podcast about 8 months before Rogan, and everyone thought he was crazy for doing a podcast. That’s how new it...
Bob Regnerus on Video Marketing, The Resurgence of Organic Content & The Power of Storytelling
In today’s media landscape, it’s no surprise that all roads lead to video. It’s what we consume. It’s the beating drum of content marketing, and its platform agnostic because it applies to every industry including coaching and consulting.
What is surprising though, is the kind of video content people are consuming and what drives them to take action. In lieu of advertising, organic, value-driven content has made a real comeback, and it’s centered around stories more than ever before. This even applies to people whose services exist to solve a particular, niche problem.
The question is: how do we make our content more magnetic in this landscape? In this episode, I’m joined by a special guest, the founder of FeedStories, Bob Regnerus. He talks about what’s happening in video marketing, and how we can implement it in our own businesses.
3 Things We Learned From Bob Regnerus
The current state of paid online advertising
Why there’s more demand for solutions-based organic content right now
How to back up ideals and big ideas with magnetic stories
Bob Regnerus is the founder of FeedStories and the author of 5 books, including The Ultimate Guide to Facebook Ads, which sold out on its first day. His gift and passion is to help you promote yourself and your business. Throughout his career and working with clients in over 105 markets since 1998, he helps clients promote a powerful message to the marketplace, and target specific customers to deliver that message through Paid Advertising. Bob gets results for his clients through Facebook Advertising Management and Consulting. Bob has had the opportunity to work with a number of remarkable individuals and companies over the years, and spoken to crowds from 20 to 2000 all over the country. For more information, and to find out more about Bob’s work, visit https://feedstories.com/ (https://feedstories.com/).
Should You Sell to Beginners?
One of my friends in the coaching space forwarded me Sam Ovens’ video on how he’s spent the last 2 years breaking down and rebuilding his business.
If you don’t know, Ovens started a business that became Consulting.com, which helped beginner experts and course creators turn their expertise into courses and productizable consulting.
At one point he was doing $30 million a year in revenue.
However, in remaking the business he decided to discontinue Consulting Accelerator, their signature program for beginners.
Turns out it was more headache than it was worth, at least for Ovens. And I can completely relate.
In our podcast agency, I’d rather work with those with genuine and deep expertise in their space. They may be new to the coaching or consulting space, but they already have skills and expertise, the only question is how to best position them for ideal clients.
So all this got me thinking of the question I see lots of my friends and clients wrestling with, “Should I sell to beginners?”
I think we all struggle with this question at some point because that’s where the biggest businesses are.
There’s simply more beginners than intermediate or experts. So there’s more people to buy from us if we make something for beginners.
Think about ClickFunnels. If Russell Brunson only sold that software to advanced course creators, there wouldn’t be enough customers to make a profit, therefore the product could never get better.
So we need brands who sell to beginners, and brands who cater to the more advanced.
The big question for any coach or consultant is, Which will you be?
Putting it in terms we can better relate to, will you be the Mercedes-Benz of your market, or the Toyota Corolla?
If you want big sales numbers and a huge brand, get ready to sell to beginners. That’s where you’ll find big markets and big opportunities.
Yet beginners come with a lot of frustration, and I wanted to flesh out *why* and what can be done about it.
So first let’s get into the 3 things that hold beginners back from getting results and creates headaches for those who sell to them.
Foundation of Performance
Beginners often lack a basic foundation of methodical, consistent action in their lives.
So when you try to help them take action, there’s no foundation of consistent action to build on. There’s no ongoing action for you to tweak and improve. They have no history of successfully building new habits or making uncomfortable changes.
As a personal trainer, it’s much easier to work with someone who is active and has already made some basic diet changes, than to work with someone who’s never hit the gym in their life.
I asked a mentor one time if I should go to a Tony Robbins event. He said I might get something out of it, because I had the foundation of performance to handle it.
But he had seen many who didn’t have that foundation, and once they came back from a transformative experience, and they couldn’t translate that experience into action, it actually had a terrible, negative effect.
Some even slipped into a major depression after they came home, and he had to help them pick up the emotional pieces and get back on track.
So working with beginners often means working with folks who don’t know how to break old habits and build new ones, which makes coaching them extremely difficult.
It’s impossible to take bold, confident action when you’re unclear on what you want.
Yet beginners are looking for programs and courses to give them the clarity they can’t get on their own.
They simply don’t know what they don’t know.
If they knew exactly what they wanted, they’d probably be well on their way to having it.
The dirty secret of selling coaching programs to beginners is that often, the testimonials you’ll get will be based on clarity.
“This program helped me decide to _____! Now I know exactly where I’m going and how to get there”
If you sell programs for beginners, don’t expect...
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Excellent, practical tips in every episode
Matt's MicroFamous podcast has become one of my favorites, and that's because every episode is packed with clear, detailed tips that I can actually implement in my business. Everything Matt says in his solo episodes rings true with my own 30+ years in business. You don't have to be an introvert to extract a ton of value from these episodes. Highly recommend subscribing, listening, making notes...and then taking action.