Get inspired and stay motivated with insights from health professionals, mindfulness teachers, scientists, business leaders, artists, and peak performers. Join Montreal psychologist Dr. Joe Flanders in his long-form discussions of the science and practice of well-being with well-known thought-leaders. Joe stays grounded in evidence-based practices, while exploring innovative and controversial trends in the well-being space. The conversations are unscripted and real so you’ll get accessible explanations of cutting-edge ideas as well as the personal backstories behind them. Get some Mindspace.
Dr. Devon Christie on Psychedelics as a New Paradigm for Medicine
"As therapists and guides, we're holding that space for the location of healing to be intrinsic to that person."
In this episode of the Mindspace podcast, Dr. Joe speaks with Dr. Devon Christie. Dr. Christie is a family physician with a focused practice in Multidisciplinary Pain Management and the Senior Lead of Psychedelic Programs at Numinus. She is also a clinical instructor with the UBC Department of Medicine, Kundalini Yoga instructor, Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction (MBSR) teacher, Relational Somatic Therapist and MDMA-assisted and ketamine-assisted psychotherapist.
She also has first hand experience recovering from chronic pain, traumatic brain injury, PTSD, bulimia, anorexia, and depression. These experiences have served as the foundation for her work.
Dr. Christie and Dr. Joe spoke about:
- How Devon got into psychedelic medicine and why she believes there is so much promise in this field
- The psychedelic paradigm shift in medicine
- Healing mechanisms in psychedelic therapies
- The role of neuroplasticity, mindfulness, the default mode network, and mystical experiences in healing
- Why she believes somatic relational therapy is an ideal approach for psychedelics.
- Profound insights from her near death experience
- Her own healing journey, recovering from chronic pain, traumatic brain injury and PTSD
- How psychedelics can change the world and some of the risks along the way
Jamie Wheal on Finding Meaning at the End of the World
“Life is tragic, and occasionally it's magic.”
In this episode of the Mindspace podcast, Dr. Joe speaks with Jamie Wheal, author of Recapture the Rapture: Rethinking God, Sex and Death In a World That's Lost Its Mind and the Pulitzer-nominated bestseller Stealing Fire: How Silicon Valley, Navy SEALs, and Maverick Scientists Are Revolutionizing the Way We Live and Work. He is also the founder and executive director of the Flow Genome Project whose purpose is to build “world-class training programs on peak performance, optimal psychology and leadership.” His work has been covered in the New York Times, Financial Times, Wired, Entrepreneur, Forbes, and many other publications.
Jamie synthesizes history, psychology, neuroscience, and anthropology in order to create techniques and cultural practices centred around transforming human beings through non-ordinary states. Those practices include breathing techniques and psychedelics.
Jamie and Dr. Joe spoke about:
- The breakdown of the traditional ways of making meaning
- The social, political, psychological, and environmental consequences of this breakdown
- Jamie’s design principles for a new meaning-making operating system
- The most reliable and accessible sources of healing, inspiration, and connection
- How we can implement this approach to building sustainable communities
Psychedelic Integration with Andrew Rose, Psychedelic Educator and Integration Coach
“Psychedelics open things up and create opportunity. And integration is the work you do after to make sure you derive benefit from that experience.”
In this episode of the Mindspace podcast, Dr. Joe speaks with Andrew Rose, a very experienced practitioner in Psychedelic Harm Reduction and Integration (PHRI). He is a certified mindfulness teacher, formerly the director of programming and digital strategy at Mindspace, and currently the director of programming and content at Numinus. He now leads the PHRI program at Numinus.
He is also an assisting trainer at Fluence, an organization that offers educational programs in psychedelic integration and psychedelic-assisted therapy.
He also co-runs a community organization called Plant Parenthood, a digital community of parents who are interested in the intersection of family and the intentional therapeutic use of psychedelics.
For more information on the PHRI programs at Mindspace or Numinus, check out mindspacewellbeing.com/services/psychedelics and numinuswellness.com/services/psychedelic-harm-reduction-and-integration
Andrew and Dr. Joe spoke about:
- What is integration
- What is Psychedelic Harm Reduction and Integration (PHRI)
- The importance of setting intentions
- How psychedelics can reduce the rigidity of our minds and open us up
- Examples of integration practices
- What you can do if you’ve had a destabilizing psychedelic experience
- The marriage between mindfulness, integration, and psychedelic experiences
Dr. Gabor Maté on Trauma, Addiction, and Healing
In this episode of the Mindspace podcast, Dr. Joe speaks with Dr. Gabor Maté, retired physician, author, and world renowned educator. Dr. Maté has more than 20 years experience in family practice and palliative care. He has worked for more than a decade at the Portland Hotel in downtown East Side Vancouver with patients who suffer from mental illness and addiction.
He is a world renowned expert in trauma, addiction, child development, psychedelics, and the relationship between stress and illness. He is the best selling author of four books like When the Body Says No and The Realm of Hungry Ghosts, for which he won the Hubert Evans Non-Fiction Prize. And he is currently finishing his fifth book, The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness and Healing in a Toxic Culture due out in April 2022. His works have been translated into more than 25 languages. And he also offers online video courses including Wholehearted's Healing Trauma and Addictions.
His work now centres around educating the public on the impact of trauma and human development and training therapists in Compassionate Inquiry. Compassionate Inquiry is a therapeutic method developed by Dr. Maté whose focus is on helping the patient to “recognize the unconscious dynamics that run their lives and how to liberate themselves from them.” He also just released The Wisdom of Trauma on June 8th, 2021, a movie about his life’s work.
Dr. Maté and Dr. Joe spoke about:
- Gabor’s personal history with trauma
- How traumatic experiences affect human development
- The effects of trauma and stress during pregnancy and childhood on human development
- How children adapt to trauma
- The relationship between modern society, parenting, and child development
- The wisdom of trauma
- The definition of addiction
- His view of the problems with the disease model approach to addiction
- His non-pathologizing approach to understanding and treating addiction
- The link between trauma and physical illness
- The role of psychedelics in healing trauma
- What he is optimistic about
Emotion and Transformation with Dr. Les Greenberg
“The best way to change an emotion is with another emotion.”
In this episode of the Mindspace podcast, Dr. Joe speaks with Dr. Les Greenberg, a world renowned psychotherapist and researcher. He is one of the creators of Emotion-Focused Therapy (EFT) and professor at York University in Toronto. EFT centres around utilizing emotion to transform emotion. It is a different approach from the current major schools of psychotherapy like Cognitive Behavioural Therapy. He is also the founder and director of the Emotion-Focused Therapy clinic where he provides therapy for individuals and couples and trains therapists in EFT.
Dr. Greenberg is the author of 17 books like Changing Emotion With Emotion and Emotion-Focused Counselling in Action. And he has published over 100 scientific papers and has written over 80 book chapters.
Dr. Les Greenberg and Dr. Joe spoke about:
- The role of emotions in our lives and how they’re implicated in mental health problems
- How to transform emotions
- How his background as an engineer influences his work as a psychologist and researcher
- Chair work
- The role of the therapist in EFT
- How EFT is different from other experiential therapies
Ketamine-Assisted Psychotherapy with Dr. Kyle Greenway
"We have to design treatments that are fully biological, psychological, and sociological at their core. Psychedelics represent that, and psychiatry has started to take notice."
In this episode of the Mindspace podcast, Dr. Joe speaks with Dr. Kyle Greenway. Dr. Greenway is a senior resident in psychiatry at McGill University. He runs a clinic in Montreal where he and his team treats patients using ketamine-assisted psychotherapy.
His work centres around the intersection of biology, psychology, and sociology for the treatment of his patients. And he has a deep understanding of why psychedelics are so effective in the treatment of many mental illnesses.
Dr. Greenway and Dr. Joe spoke about:
- How psychedelics differ from other psychiatric treatments and why they appear to be so effective
- The role of psychotherapy in psychedelic treatments
- The potential mechanisms in the therapeutic actions of psychedelic treatments
- The importance of integration therapy after a psychedelic experience
- How ketamine-assisted psychotherapy actually works
Loving these Mindspace podcasts!
Been making my way through these and have learned so much. Joe Flanders has curated an eclectic group of guests that all share their personal experiences and professional insight into the world of mindfulness. This podcast has been a very helpful companion as I deal with how challenging life has become these days for me.
Worst interviewer ever
I listened to his interview with Sue Johnson, one of the masters in the field of couples therapy. He kept interrupting her, arguing, and asserting his own extremely limited and narrow-minded opinions. He wasn’t really listening to her. It’s so frustrating to hear an amazing woman like Dr. Johnson have to engage with this kind of interviewer. Check your male privilege, Dr. Joe.