My Quest for the Best with Bill Ringle

Bill Ringle
My Quest for the Best with Bill Ringle

Hey leaders and rising stars of small and mid-market firms, get ready to learn from the best in the business! Bill Ringle interviews business leaders who have built remarkable companies, thought leaders who have broken new ground, and community leaders who have led movements in order to glean insights that can help you with your management, marketing, leadership, sales, operations, and mindset right away. Subscribe to My Quest for the Best for interviews that dig below the surface. Visit My Quest for the Best with Bill Ringle, MyQuestForTheBest.com, for more details on the guests, special offers, and show notes.

  1. MAR 3

    The world of work improves when we include and support women's voices and leadership

    Beate Chelette, author of Happy Woman Happy World Bill Ringle and Beatte Chelette discuss insider perspectives on how to create a work culture that is genuinely collaborative and inclusive for female and male small business leaders. >>> Visit MyQuestforTheBest.com  for complete show notes and more expert advice and inspiring stories to propel your small business growth. My Quest for the Best is a top-rated small business podcast with over 300 episodes of thought-provoking and insightful interviews with today’s top thought leaders and business experts. Host Bill Ringle’s mission with this show is to provide the strategies, insights, and resources that will unlock the growth potential of your business through these powerful conversations. Interview Insights Top 3 Takeaways Position yourself to succeed with your peers instead of wanting only you, and you alone, to succeed. Know your price and the number needs to be the number where you don't have to work anymore; that way, you'd know when it's time to sell. When somebody tries to throw you off your game through their words or actions, you have the option not to let that land. Read the Show Notes from this Episode Beate proudly recalls her father who taught her that every person in the company, from the janitor to the top executives is vital to making a culture work. This is a lesson she carried throughout her life. [01:27] With $135,000 debt, a teenager she raised alone, and a lawsuit with a former employee, Beate's resiliency was the fuel that kept her running. [03:32] How do we know when it's time to sell? Beate highlights the importance of knowing your price and advises us to make sure it's a figure enough that we don't have to work anymore. [05:01] Knowing her numbers, Beate found a perfect buyer in Bill Gates. [07:16] A common problem in the US and many parts of the world is the gender pay gap. Beate gives her insights as for why many women are paid less and how they could address this. [10:39] Mary was a client of Beate's who, despite being a top 1% in the fabric world, was not taken seriously as a business leader. After working with Beate, Mary became more confident in positioning herself as the leader that she is. [12:24] Why insecurity is ugly and a cavemen mentality that women need to shed. [16:58] "You're too emotional" is only a checkmate move if we allow it. Beate advises women getting these comments to laugh it off and carry on with business as usual. [20:24] Beate recalls a former colleague and teammate Sandy who despite having a healthy and friendly relationship with her when Beate first joined the company, became embittered and resentful of her promotion. [23:12] My Quest for the Best lightning round begins. [30:00] Expert Bio Beate Chelette is the Growth Architect and Founder of The Women’s Code and provides visionaries and leaders with strategies that grow your authority so they can scale their impact. A first-generation immigrant who found herself $135,000 in debt as a single parent, Beate bootstrapped her passion for photography into a highly successful global business and eventually sold it to Bill Gates in a multimillion-dollar deal. She is amongst the “Top 100 Global Thought Leaders” by PeopleHum and “One of 50 Must-Follow Women Entrepreneurs” by HuffPost.Recent clients include Amazon, Reckitt (the maker of Lysol), Chevron, Merck, Johnson & Johnson, the Women’s Legislative Caucus of California, Cal State University Dominguez Hills, Shelter Inc., Mental Health First Aid and thousands of small businesses. Beate is the author of the #1 International Award-Winning Amazon Bestseller “Happy Woman Happy World – How to Go from Overwhelmed to Awesome”–a book that corporate trainer and best-selling author Brian Tracy calls “a handbook for every woman who wants health, success and a fulfilling career.” Contact Info and Social Media for Beate Chelette Primary website

    39 min
  2. FEB 24

    Use the power of narrative to take your business to the next level

    Gregory Diehl, author of Brand Identity Breakthrough: How to Craft Your Company's Unique Story to Make Your Products Irresistible Bill Ringle and Gregory Diehl discuss the importance and use of story narrative to give your business the attention it deserves for small business leaders. >>> Visit MyQuestforTheBest.com  for complete show notes and more expert advice and inspiring stories to propel your small business growth. My Quest for the Best is a top-rated small business podcast with over 300 episodes of thought-provoking and insightful interviews with today’s top thought leaders and business experts. Host Bill Ringle’s mission with this show is to provide the strategies, insights, and resources that will unlock the growth potential of your business through these powerful conversations. Interview Insights Top 3 Takeaways Invest in your clients as much as you can but do not be afraid to step back if they are unwilling to invest in their self-improvement as well. Creating your identity is important because customers buy into the story as much as they buy into what we're selling. There are three ways to get money. Beg, steal, and earn. But only through earning do we give someone of great value worthy of their money. Read the Show Notes from this Episode Gregory passionately shares how Goerge Lucas and his vision that ultimately changed the film industry greatly inspired him growing up. [01:02] How Goerge Lucas relates to his book Brand Identity Breakthrough. [04:32] As teenagers, Gregory and his friends first came to truly appreciate the importance of the story in a brand when they were busking in California. [06:23] Olivier Wagner is a client of Gregor's whose job is to help American ex-pats with their taxes whom he helped create his personality brand. [14:34] How Olivier's business changed for the best after working with Gregory: He became more active in reaching out to people who are asking questions in platforms like Quora and Facebook. [18:28] Beg, steal, or earn- Gregory elaborates on the three ways he thinks entrepreneurs earn money. [21:22] Exploring the concept of Street Cat Marketing. [24:28] Why emotional bond is a perfect hook for selling. [27:43] My Quest for the Best Lightning Round begins [29:00] Expert Bio Gregory V. Diehl is an educator and personal development mentor whose ideals include self-inquiry, challenge, and analysis. He writes and teaches to assist others in undoing faulty narratives about their identities and how life works so that they may begin to make more meaningful choices and resolve their deepest burdens. Diehl spent many years studying cultures around the world and now lives a quiet life in a rural village in Armenia with his cats, books, and music. Gregory's latest business book is Everyone Is an Entrepreneur: Selling Economic Self-Determination in a Post-Soviet World. In it, he examines why entrepreneurship has been so slow to spread in post-Soviet cultures like Armenia, how it hinders individuals' ability to improve their own lives, and how to fix it. Contact Info and Social Media for Gregory Diehl Primary website Travels from: CARLSBAD, California Connect on: Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook Resources Mentioned During the Interview Below are key people, places, books, quotes, websites, and other resources we discussed so that you can explore further. Quora Facebook Olivier Wagner - If you are an American living abroad and need help with your taxes, click this link. Published by Gregory Diehl

    36 min
  3. JAN 13

    The Core Skills Needed to Become a Leader Regardless of Your Work Title with Tania Luna

    Tania Luna, author of The Leader Lab - Core Skills to Become a Great Manager, Faster Tania Luna and Bill Ringle discuss insights into becoming a great manager and overcoming the obstacles to implementation for small business leaders. >>> Visit MyQuestforTheBest.com  for complete show notes and more expert advice and inspiring stories to propel your small business growth. My Quest for the Best is a top-rated small business podcast with over 400 episodes of thought-provoking and insightful interviews with today’s top thought leaders and business experts. Host Bill Ringle’s mission with this show is to provide the strategies, insights, and resources that will unlock the growth potential of your business through these powerful conversations. Interview Insights Top Takeaways Create a culture of innovation by fostering a safe environment where employees feel comfortable taking risks and learning from failures. Build trust by encouraging vulnerability and practicing empathy with employees. Overcome resistance to change by embracing diversity and promoting curiosity in the workplace. Encourage experimentation and learning by providing resources and opportunities for employees to explore new ideas and approaches. Foster a culture of continuous improvement by celebrating successes, learning from failures, and adapting to change. Read the Show Notes from this Episode [2:36] How did you become interested in the topic of surprise and creating a culture of continuous improvement? Tania Luna shares her personal story of growing up in post-Soviet Ukraine and how her experience of constant change and uncertainty sparked her interest in human performance. [8:30] What are some of the key elements that contribute to building a healthy culture? Psychological safety, trust, and diversity in creating an environment where people feel free to take risks and experiment. [11:47] How can leaders encourage experimentation and taking risks while still maintaining a sense of control and order in the workplace? Leaders can create clear guidelines and expectations, while also giving employees space to experiment within those boundaries. [15:32] How can managers balance the need for innovation with the need for stability and consistency in their business? Create pockets of innovation within your organization, while also maintaining certain core values and practices that provide stability and consistency. [20:20] How can leaders encourage employees to be more curious and open-minded in the workplace? You can model curiosity and vulnerability, and also create opportunities for employees to learn from each other and explore new ideas. [20:20] How can leaders encourage employees to be more curious and open-minded in the workplace? You can model curiosity and vulnerability, and also create opportunities for employees to learn from each other and explore new ideas. [25:36] My Quest for the Best Lightning Round begins [28:00] How can leaders build trust with their employees, particularly in times of change or uncertainty? Everyone can build trust at work by being transparent, communicating clearly, and demonstrating empathy and vulnerability. [32:55] How can leaders create a culture where failure is seen as a learning opportunity rather than a source of shame or blame? Shift the culture at work by modeling vulnerability and openness, celebrating experimentation and learning, and creating an environment where employees feel safe to take risks. [36:55] How can leaders foster creativity and innovation in virtual or remote work environments? You can create opportunities for connection and collaboration, encourage experimentation and learning, and use technology to facilitate communication and idea-sharing. Subscribe to My Quest for the Best Expert Bio Tania Luna (Brooklyn, New York) is the co-founder of LifeLabs Learning, author of “The Leader Lab: Core Skills to Become a Great Man...

    37 min
  4. JAN 6

    What it really takes to unleash the power of your second in command with guest expert Cameron Herold

    Cameron Herold, author of The Second in Command: Unleashing the Power of Your COO Bill Ringle and Cameron Herold discuss the role of the COO, the importance of matching the stage of the company and the relationship chemistry with the CEO, and when it is time for a COO to move on to another role or company for ambitious small business leaders. >>> Visit MyQuestforTheBest.com for complete show notes and more expert advice and inspiring stories to propel your small business growth. My Quest for the Best is a top-rated small business podcast with over 300 episodes of thought-provoking and insightful interviews with today’s top thought leaders and business experts. Host Bill Ringle’s mission with this show is to provide the strategies, insights, and resources that will unlock the growth potential of your business through these powerful conversations. Interview Insights Top 3 Takeaways from this Interview Your second in command must be the yin to your yang, complementing your skills, interests, and responsibilities. A talented CMO could work in almost any company and contribute to its success. A talented COO knows that they would need to find the right combination of company stage, industry, business model, and chemistry with the CEO to make significant contributions. An effective COO is essential to scaling your business. If strategic growth is stuck, check with your COO for their perspective before reviewing the sales performance metrics. Read the Show Notes from this Episode Cameron cites Thomas Edison's observation that "Vision without execution is hallucination." CASE: The story of how Brian Scudamore, founder and CEO of 1-800-GOT-JUNK hired Cameron as its first COO, employee 14. What can someone who reports to the CEO, as a COO, say, do to improve their relationship? Think of it like a good marriage. CASE: What was the story behind the conflict you resolved at 1-800-JUNK between the head of product and head of IT? How did you grow the COO Alliance during the pandemic lock down? How do you use the Kolbe assessment to make your COO Alliance members better leaders? How did you come to broaden your understanding of the many types of roles that COOs can play? Lessons from Clayton Mask, the founder of Infusionsoft and a Harvard Business Review article. Where did the double-double rule of thumb come from, where the management team that takes you through a revenue doubling twice probably needs to be updated or replaced? What's your approach to and experience with using ChatGPT and Open AI in your work? My Quest for the Best Lightning Round Begins When do you know it is time to move on as COO? Two parts -- one from the COO perspective and one from the CEO perspective. Expert Bio Cameron Herold has built a dynamic consultancy and his current clients include a 'Big 4' wireless carrier and a monarchy. He earned his reputation as the business growth guru by guiding his clients to double their profit and double their revenue in just three years or less. Cameron was an entrepreneur from day one. At age 21, he had 14 employees. By 35, he'd help build his first TWO $100 MILLION DOLLAR companies. By the age of 42, Cameron engineered 1-800-GOT-JUNK's spectacular growth from $2 Million to $106 Million in revenue and 3100 employees - and he did that in just six years. His companies landed over 5,200 media placements in that same six years, including coverage on Oprah. Not only does Cameron know how to grow businesses, but his delivery from the stage is second to none. Rich Karlgaard, publisher of Forbes magazine, stated: "Cameron Herold is THE BEST SPEAKER I've ever heard...he hits grand slams". When Cameron steps off the stage, he doesn't stop teaching. He is the author of the global best-selling business book DOUBLE DOUBLE, which is in its 8th printing and in multiple translations around the world.

    43 min
  5. MAR 10

    You are stuck without being open to workplace experiements

    Gustavo Razzetti, author of Remote Not Distant: Design a Company Culture That Will Help You Thrive in a Hybrid Workplace Bill Ringle and Gustavo Razzetti discuss how leaders and those who say nothing to hurtful behavior are jointly responsible for toxic work cultures and what to do instead to be effective leading from anywhere for small business leaders. >>> Visit MyQuestforTheBest.com  for complete show notes and more expert advice and inspiring stories to propel your small business growth. My Quest for the Best is a top-rated small business podcast with over 300 episodes of thought-provoking and insightful interviews with today’s top thought leaders and business experts. Host Bill Ringle’s mission with this show is to provide the strategies, insights, and resources that will unlock the growth potential of your business through these powerful conversations. Interview Insights Top 3 Takeaways Productivity theater is when employees are very active, doing 'busy work,' like escalating zoom calls or posting questions to show they are making an effort even if they are not working. Managers should focus more on the output or the outcome rather than the effort on hand. If a culture becomes toxic, there are two parties to blame: The leader who is behaving badly and the subordinates who enables the bad behaviour. Identify the values that strengthen your tribe and the behaviours that make them weak should be eliminated during the reset process. Read the Show Notes from this Episode His grandfather from his mother's side who was a doctor was his inspiration growing up. Through him, Gustavo learned the power of observation. [01:41] Gustavo discusses the two things that make up a toxic culture: One is the leader, and the other is the people who do nothing. [03:30] The definition of resetting your business culture and when and why you should do it. [07:07] Gustavo discusses how what gets attention gets rewarded and the two things that get us rewarded at work. [10:23] No matter the size of the business, we should come up with a purpose and an answer to who they serve.[13:28] Gustavo highlights the importance of being a part of a tribe. [17:42] The Netflix culture memo; how the streaming giant gave their employees the sense of being respected and valued. [19:48] My Quest for the Best lightning round begins. [25:47] Expert Bio Gustavo Razzetti is the CEO & Founder of Fearless Culture. Gustavo is passionate about helping teams do the best work of their lives. He is a sought-after speaker, culture consultant, and author of three books. After 25 years of helping organizations build purpose-driven brands and teams, Gustavo realized that most companies don't lack ideas, resources, or talent but a conducive culture. He created Fearless Culture to help organizations become purpose-driven, agile, and innovative. Razzetti is also the creator of the Culture Design Canvas, a culture mapping tool used by consultants, coaches, and organizations worldwide. Gustavo's work has been featured in Psychology Today, The New York Times, Forbes, BBC, and many other publications. Throughout his career, he has advised companies in multiple business sectors, including GM, Continental, Coca-Cola, Mars, and Comcast. He is the author of four books, including the recent Remote, Not Distant – a roadmap to build a strong culture for remote and hybrid teams. Razzetti has built a career at the intersection of marketing, innovation, and leadership. He participated in the by-invitation-only Change Leadership Program at Stanford University. An avid road cyclist and cook, Gustavo lives in Chicago with his wife Moira and sons Tristan and Fausto. Contact Info and Social Media for Gustavo Razzetti Primary website Travels from: Highland Park, IL Connect on: Twitter | LinkedIn | Instagram | YouTube | Resources Mentioned During the Interview

    31 min
  6. 11/25/2024

    A published book changes lives for the author and their readers with guest expert Chandler Bolt

    Chandler Bolt, author of Published: The Proven Path From Blank Page To 10,000 Copies Sold Bill Ringle and Chandler Bolt discuss the top obstacles and paths to becoming a published author based on 6,000 success stories at Self Publishing School for ambitious SMB leaders. >>> Visit MyQuestforTheBest.com for complete show notes and more expert advice and inspiring stories to propel your small business growth. My Quest for the Best is a top-rated small business podcast with over 400 episodes of thought-provoking and insightful interviews with today’s top thought leaders and business experts. Host Bill Ringle’s mission with this show is to provide the strategies, insights, and resources that will unlock the growth potential of your business through these powerful conversations. Interview Insights Top 3 Takeaways Push hard for your dreams, and even harder when people tell you that you can't make it. Do not wait for the perfect time to write a book. Write now or you might write never. Push yourself and test whether something is possible or not. Read the Show Notes from this Episode His brother Seth, who plays bass in Grammy-nominated rock band NEEDTOBREATHE, inspired Chandler to reach hard for his dreams even when people tell him it's impossible. [01:13] A New York Times article quoted a survey that found that 81% of people want to write a book, but only 1% actually do. Chandler details why for some people, someday becomes never. [03:07] How can you help aspiring authors overcome internal conflicts that prevent them from getting through their first drafts? [04:42] What are the four most common reasons why people write books? Passion, shared experience, becoming a full-time author, and growing your business. [06:38] What would you say to debunk the myth that if we share our experience and knowledge in writing, people won't need us anymore and why generosity is the key to business growth and longevity? [07:59] When your first self-published book didn't exactly rake in the success and the money you expected, how did meeting SAM through your book manager help? Every self-published author needs to know what SAM represents.[10:38] Why was copy writing pivotal for you when you released your first book and had $15,000 in credit card debt? [12:43] Why do expert authors need to approach marketing like a Toyota Camry, not like a Lamborghini? [14:51] How does the Amazon algorithm and a series of steps to use "Amazon juice" to get your book more readers and recommendations? [21:06] My Quest for the Best lightning round begins. [24:44] Expert Bio Chandler Bolt is the author of Published, The Proven Path From Blank Page To 10,000 Copies Sold. As a seven-time bestselling author and CEO of Self-Publishing School and selfpublishing.com, Chandler knows exactly how instrumental writing books can be in sharing your message and even growing and scaling your business. His message is that you can't wait for the “perfect time” in life to get writing, the perfect time to get writing is now. Contact Info and Social Media for Chandler Bolt Primary website Travels from: Fort Myers, FL Connect on: Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram Resources Mentioned During the Interview Below are key people, places, books, quotes, websites, and other resources that we discussed, so you can explore further. Tony Robbins Oprah Grammys Think You Have a Book in You? Think Again by Joseph Epstein in the New York Times NEEDTOBREATHE Michael Hyatt 80/20 Sales and Marketing: The Definitive Guide to Working Less and Making More by Perry Marshall Published by Chandler Bolt

    31 min
  7. 11/04/2024

    Building your content marketing muscles with guest expert Pamela Wilson

    Pamela Wilson, author of Master Content Marketing Bill Ringle and Pamela Wilson discuss how content marketing differs from social media marketing and what steps to take to attract leads that become profitable customers for small business marketers. >>> Visit MyQuestforTheBest.com  for complete show notes and more expert advice and inspiring stories to propel your small business growth. My Quest for the Best is a top-rated small business podcast with over 300 episodes of thought-provoking and insightful interviews with today’s top thought leaders and business experts. Host Bill Ringle’s mission with this show is to provide the strategies, insights, and resources that will unlock the growth potential of your business through these powerful conversations. Interview Insights Top 3 Takeaways People should stop asking whether to put high-quality content or not. Our content should always be high-quality. Focus on building your content on your primary website. While posting on sites such as LinkedIn is great, there is a chance you may be taken off at any moment. It is not content marketing without a call to action. Read the Show Notes from this Episode The power couple of Eleonor and Franklin Roosevelt are Pamela's biggest inspirations. [01:17] Pamela talks about how she got into content marketing. [03:44] Why call to action are necessary. [05:26] Pamela gives tips to address the concern of where we should put our content and why it is better to do it on your OWN website. [11:14] Why do we have to put our best stuff and post consistently? [15:56] Pamela talks about Roberta, a client she used to work with who manages a sales team, and how practicing consistency on high-quality posting got them a lot of traffic. [18:20] To lessen the pressure, Pamela reminds us that everyone just starting content marketing should not feel like they should immediately be able to post the best pieces. [24:59] My Quest for the Best lightning round begins. [27:22] Expert Bio Pamela Wilson is a 30+ year business owner, executive coach, and corporate consultant. She's published three books and has created and marketed dozens of online courses for herself and others. Pamela is a keynote speaker and frequent podcast guest. Pamela created the Offer Accelerator Program and serves as the program's head coach and business advisor. In her role as a digital marketing consultant Pamela has worked with local, national, and international clients. Contact Info and Social Media for Pamela Wilson Primary website Travels from: Nashville, Tennessee Connect on: Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook Resources Mentioned During the Interview Below are key people, places, books, quotes, websites, and other resources that we discussed, so you can explore further. Eleanor Roosevelt Franklin Roosevelt Published by Pamela Wilson

    33 min
  8. 10/28/2024

    The best leaders value profits and people with guest expert Andrew Bryant

    Andrew Bryant, author of The New Leadership Playbook: Being human whilst successfully delivering accelerated results Bill Ringle and Andrew Bryant discuss details of decisiveness, inclusiveness, and accountability as leadership plays that leaders of small and mid-size companies can use now. >>> Visit MyQuestforTheBest.com  for complete show notes and more expert advice and inspiring stories to propel your small business growth. My Quest for the Best is a top-rated small business podcast with over 400 episodes of thought-provoking and insightful interviews with today’s top thought leaders and business experts. Host Bill Ringle’s mission with this show is to provide the strategies, insights, and resources that will unlock the growth potential of your business through these powerful conversations. Interview Insights Top 3 Takeaways Responsibility is personal. I am responsible for my thoughts and my actions. Accountability is an agreement. It's something that people use to forge a contract. A single universal type of leader is a myth. Different leaders excel under different circumstances. Talent is rare, but strength is something each of us can acquire. It may be by strengthening ourselves or hiring someone whose strong suit complements our weak areas. Read the Show Notes from this Episode Andrew's first work experience was at his father's hardware store when he was 10. By observing his father's interactions with clients and employees, he learned how to have an executive presence. [01:14] His father's teaching of honesty, authenticity, and being true to oneself played a major role in Andrew's career in landing him his first CEO client. [02:46] Why is leadership a process? [05:21] Explain more about how no perfect leadership style fits all businesses at all times under all circumstances. [06:16] What are responsibility and accountability, and how they differ from each other? [09:44] Why decisiveness is critical to good leadership. CASE: Gustav responded to a crisis of his company's baby formula possibly being contaminated. [13:28] What can wel learn from the insight that people and profits are not an either-or consideration, but that both can be served? [17:55] My Quest for the Best lighting round begins. [22:41] Expert Bio Andrew Bryant is the founder of Self Leadership International and the world's leading expert on self-leadership. He has written two books on the topic, Self-Leadership: How to Become a More Successful, Efficient, and Effective Leader from the Inside Out (Bryant & Kazan, 2012) and Self Leadership: 12 Powerful Mindsets & Methods to Win in Life & Business (Bryant, 2016), and The New Leadership Playbook – Being Human whilst delivering Accelerated Results (Bryant, 2022). He has also contributed to many blogs, books, and articles on self-leadership and leadership. Andrew has coached hundreds of leaders and leadership teams to become the best version of themselves and to scale their companies. He has international experience with clients from Asia, Australasia, the United States of America (USA), Europe, The Middle East, and Africa. Not only has Andrew worked across geographical locations and cultures, but he has also transformed and developed leaders across industries, including the airline industry, software and hardware companies, pharmaceutical manufacturers, professional services, banking, finance, manufacturing, hospitality, and travel. Contact Info and Social Media for Andrew Bryant Primary website Travels from: Kennebunk, ME Connect on: Twitter | LinkedIn | Instagram | YouTube | Facebook Resources Mentioned During the Interview Below are key people, places, books, quotes, websites and other resources that we discussed, so you can explore further. Brian Tracy Nelson Mandela Published by Andrew Bryant

    28 min
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Hey leaders and rising stars of small and mid-market firms, get ready to learn from the best in the business! Bill Ringle interviews business leaders who have built remarkable companies, thought leaders who have broken new ground, and community leaders who have led movements in order to glean insights that can help you with your management, marketing, leadership, sales, operations, and mindset right away. Subscribe to My Quest for the Best for interviews that dig below the surface. Visit My Quest for the Best with Bill Ringle, MyQuestForTheBest.com, for more details on the guests, special offers, and show notes.

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