The Locked up Living Podcast: Surviving and thriving in prisons and other challenging environments Podcasters David Jones & Dr Naomi Murphy

Summary
https://www.weidenfeldandnicolson.co.uk/titles/anna-motz-3/a-love-that-kills/9781474624381/
Anna Motz, is a forensic psychotherapist, clinical and forensic psychologist. In this conversation she discusses her focus on the darker side of women and their use of violence. She explains how her interest in this area developed from her experiences working in psychiatric hospitals and forensic services. Anna highlights the differences between male and female patterns of violence, particularly in terms of violence against the self and violence in the domestic realm. She also discusses the prevalence of female sexual abuse of children and the societal challenges in recognizing and addressing this issue. Anna shares her journey of training as a forensic psychotherapist and the impact it has had on her practice. She emphasizes the importance of psychotherapy in forensic settings and the need for cultural change within prisons and the community. Anna also discusses her latest book, A Love That Kills, which aims to challenge stereotypes and myths about women and motherhood. Finally, she reflects on the importance of self-care and emotional well-being in her work.
 
 
Takeaways
Women who are violent are often both perpetrators and victims, and their stories are often untold and invisible.
Female violence often takes the form of violence against the self and violence in the domestic realm.
Female sexual abuse of children is more prevalent than official crime statistics suggest due to the private nature of traditional female violence and societal stereotypes.
Training as a forensic psychotherapist provides a more nuanced understanding of perpetration and the role of society in shaping individuals' behavior.
Writing about the darker side of women and their use of violence can help challenge stereotypes and myths and promote understanding and compassion.
Self-care and emotional well-being are essential for professionals working in the field of forensic psychotherapy.
Chapters
00:00Focusing on the Darker Side of Women
06:06Differences in Male and Female Patterns of Violence
07:09Violence Against the Self
09:32Female Violence in the Domestic Realm
10:19Female Sexual Abuse of Children
23:27The Influence of Childhood and Marginalization
28:56The Importance of Psychotherapy in Forensic Settings
36:34Writing A Love That Kills
46:11Protecting the Integrity of the People in the Book
48:26Self-Care and Emotional Well-Being

Summary

If you were to ask anybody who's lived or worked in a prison, what's the most striking thing about prison? I suspect their answer would fall within the domain covered by their research. So we're meeting with Kate Herity and Jason Waugh. Jason's not a new guest. If you've not already heard him talking about forensic psychology on a podcast a few weeks ago, then you really should. He's associate professor in criminology at the University of Nottingham with research interests in penology, the Sociology of Power, Narrative and Sensory Criminology and the Philosophy of Science.

https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/sound-order-and-survival-in-prison, Link to Kate's book.
https://sensorycriminology.com/home/ Link to Kate's, and others website.
This conversation explores the sensory experiences of individuals in prison and the impact it has on their well-being. The discussion covers the significance of sound, the role of silence and noise, the importance of smell, and the effects of poor ventilation in prisons. It also delves into the power dynamics of touch, including the lack of kind touch and the intrusion of unwanted touch. The chapters highlight the unique challenges faced by neurodivergent individuals and those with histories of trauma. Overall, the conversation sheds light on the often overlooked sensory aspects of the prison environment and their profound impact on individuals' lives. The conversation explores the sensory impact of prison environments on both prisoners and researchers. It delves into the imposition of power and touch, the riskiness of being a researcher in prison, and the impact of the sensory environment on researchers. The conversation also discusses the deliberate creation of harsh sensory environments as a form of punishment and the coping mechanisms employed by individuals to navigate these environments.


 



Takeaways
The sensory experiences of individuals in prison have a significant impact on their well-being.
Sound, silence, smell, and touch play crucial roles in shaping the prison environment.
The lack of kind touch and the intrusion of unwanted touch can have profound effects on individuals in prison, particularly those with neurodivergence or trauma histories.
Understanding and addressing the sensory aspects of the prison environment is essential for promoting dignity, well-being, and rehabilitation. The sensory environment in prisons communicates power dynamics and punishment.
Researchers in prison must navigate the sensory environment and consider their own positionality.
The sensory impact of prison affects both prisoners and staff, and can have long-lasting effects.
The creation of harsh sensory environments is a deliberate part of the punishment in prisons.

Summary

If you were to ask anybody who's lived or worked in a prison, what's the most striking thing about prison? I suspect their answer would fall within the domain covered by their research. So we're meeting with Kate Herity and Jason Waugh. Jason's not a new guest. If you've not already heard him talking about forensic psychology on a podcast a few weeks ago, then you really should. He's associate professor in criminology at the University of Nottingham with research interests in penology, the Sociology of Power, Narrative and Sensory Criminology and the Philosophy of Science.

https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/sound-order-and-survival-in-prison, Link to Kate's book.
https://sensorycriminology.com/home/ Link to Kate's, and others website.
This conversation explores the sensory experiences of individuals in prison and the impact it has on their well-being. The discussion covers the significance of sound, the role of silence and noise, the importance of smell, and the effects of poor ventilation in prisons. It also delves into the power dynamics of touch, including the lack of kind touch and the intrusion of unwanted touch. The chapters highlight the unique challenges faced by neurodivergent individuals and those with histories of trauma. Overall, the conversation sheds light on the often overlooked sensory aspects of the prison environment and their profound impact on individuals' lives. The conversation explores the sensory impact of prison environments on both prisoners and researchers. It delves into the imposition of power and touch, the riskiness of being a researcher in prison, and the impact of the sensory environment on researchers. The conversation also discusses the deliberate creation of harsh sensory environments as a form of punishment and the coping mechanisms employed by individuals to navigate these environments.


 



Takeaways
The sensory experiences of individuals in prison have a significant impact on their well-being.
Sound, silence, smell, and touch play crucial roles in shaping the prison environment.
The lack of kind touch and the intrusion of unwanted touch can have profound effects on individuals in prison, particularly those with neurodivergence or trauma histories.
Understanding and addressing the sensory aspects of the prison environment is essential for promoting dignity, well-being, and rehabilitation. The sensory environment in prisons communicates power dynamics and punishment.
Researchers in prison must navigate the sensory environment and consider their own positionality.
The sensory impact of prison affects both prisoners and staff, and can have long-lasting effects.
The creation of harsh sensory environments is a deliberate part of the punishment in prisons.

Malinder is a forensic psychologist from Australia who moved to the UK in 2003. She enjoyed a diverse and exciting career in a number of NHS forensic mental health services around the UK, before moving into private practice in 2020 after some very difficult workplace experiences and bereavement, which coincided with the onset of the pandemic.  Her private practice is growing and diversifying, it is underpinned by a passion for practicing from a position of lifelong experience of being "different". Her main interests are helping those who have struggled with being "different", and the effective, meaningful and ethical intervention for, and prevention of the impact of trauma on professionals in mission-driven roles, particularly experiences of moral injury and institutional betrayal. She has lived experience of autism and is passionate about contributing to increasing awareness and understanding of the experiences of highly-masked, late-diagnosed autistic people. She has a keen interest in the development and application of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy.  
Summary
Malinder Bhullar, a forensic psychologist, discusses her experiences working in forensic mental health services, including her time at Rampton Hospital and her involvement in delivering radically open DBT. She also shares her decision to transition to private practice and the difficulties she faced in institutional settings. Additionally, Melinda talks about her realization of being autistic and her contribution to a forthcoming book on neuro-narratives of mental health. In this conversation, Malinder discusses her journey of discovering her neurodiversity, specifically autism. She shares how she initially had no awareness of neurodiversity and only began to recognize it when working with high-functioning clients. The moment of realization came when she saw a profile on LinkedIn that resonated with her own experiences. Malinder decided to pursue a formal diagnosis for validation and credibility. This has since been confirmed. She also discusses the challenges of whistleblowing and the importance of rules in forensic practice. Finally, she explores the implications of autism for her work as a psychologist and the importance of self-care.
Key points;
Working in forensic mental health services can involve both rewarding and challenging experiences.
Radically Open DBT is a treatment approach specifically designed for individuals who have excessive emotional control.
Transitioning to private practice can provide more autonomy and flexibility for clinicians.
Institutional settings can present difficulties and challenges for professionals, and there is a need for greater awareness of whistleblowing and addressing systemic issues.
Self-reflection and self-discovery can lead to a better understanding of one's identity and experiences. Neurodiversity, specifically autism, can go unrecognized for a long time, even by professionals in the field.
Discovering one's neurodiversity can bring a sense of fitting in one's own skin and provide answers to past experiences.
Formally pursuing a diagnosis can provide validation and credibility, especially for individuals who are highly masked.
Whistleblowing and autism may be connected.

Malinder is a forensic psychologist from Australia who moved to the UK in 2003. She enjoyed a diverse and exciting career in a number of NHS forensic mental health services around the UK, before moving into private practice in 2020 after some very difficult workplace experiences and bereavement, which coincided with the onset of the pandemic.  Her private practice is growing and diversifying, it is underpinned by a passion for practicing from a position of lifelong experience of being "different". Her main interests are helping those who have struggled with being "different", and the effective, meaningful and ethical intervention for, and prevention of the impact of trauma on professionals in mission-driven roles, particularly experiences of moral injury and institutional betrayal. She has lived experience of autism and is passionate about contributing to increasing awareness and understanding of the experiences of highly-masked, late-diagnosed autistic people. She has a keen interest in the development and application of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy.  
 
Summary
Malinder Bhullar, a forensic psychologist, discusses her experiences working in forensic mental health services, including her time at Rampton Hospital and her involvement in delivering radically open DBT. She also shares her decision to transition to private practice and the difficulties she faced in institutional settings. Additionally, Melinda talks about her realization of being autistic and her contribution to a forthcoming book on neuro-narratives of mental health. In this conversation, Malinder discusses her journey of discovering her neurodiversity, specifically autism. She shares how she initially had no awareness of neurodiversity and only began to recognize it when working with high-functioning clients. The moment of realization came when she saw a profile on LinkedIn that resonated with her own experiences. Malinder decided to pursue a formal diagnosis for validation and credibility. This has since been confirmed. She also discusses the challenges of whistleblowing and the importance of rules in forensic practice. Finally, she explores the implications of autism for her work as a psychologist and the importance of self-care.
Key points;
Working in forensic mental health services can involve both rewarding and challenging experiences.
Radically Open DBT is a treatment approach specifically designed for individuals who have excessive emotional control.
Transitioning to private practice can provide more autonomy and flexibility for clinicians.
Institutional settings can present difficulties and challenges for professionals, and there is a need for greater awareness of whistleblowing and addressing systemic issues.
Self-reflection and self-discovery can lead to a better understanding of one's identity and experiences. Neurodiversity, specifically autism, can go unrecognized for a long time, even by professionals in the field.
Discovering one's neurodiversity can bring a sense of fitting in one's own skin and provide answers to past experiences.
Formally pursuing a diagnosis can provide validation and credibility, especially for individuals who are highly masked.
Whistleblowing and autism may be connected.

Sally Needham, Human Development and Performance Lead at Sheffield United Academy, discusses the role of psychology and neuroscience in elite football. She emphasizes the importance of mental health and wellbeing in high-performance sports and the need for early intervention and education. Sally explains the application of polyvagal theory in understanding player behavior and the impact of child development on coaching. She also shares her own experiences and challenges in implementing neuroscience in elite sport. Overall, Sally highlights the significance of understanding the individual and promoting wellbeing in the pursuit of athletic excellence.
 
The focus on well-being and transition in elite sport, particularly football, is not enough of a priority.
There is a need for more understanding and knowledge in the football industry regarding the challenges faced by players during and after their careers.
The goal is to optimize the body and brain's functioning together, emphasizing team resilience and fundamental relationships.
The red zone, where individuals can experience fight, flight, or freeze responses, can impact performance and behavior in football.
Self-care practices such as exercise, yoga, and nature can help manage stress and maintain well-being, but life can sometimes interfere with these practices.
Understanding oneself, including thoughts, feelings, and behaviors, is crucial for players to cope with the demands of the game and life.
Developing a "window of tolerance" allows players to be high performers and handle the challenges they face.
Consultancy work is done to apply psychological and social principles in different contexts, such as working with vulnerable children.
Various tools and strategies, such as podcasts, journaling, and relaxation techniques, are used to help players understand and manage their mental states.
The integration of neuroscience and child development in football can provide a deeper understanding of player behavior and inform interventions and support systems.