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Interviews with innovative educators and self-directed young people. Hosted by Blake Boles (blakeboles.com). Formerly the Real Education Podcast.

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    • 4.7, 29 Ratings

Interviews with innovative educators and self-directed young people. Hosted by Blake Boles (blakeboles.com). Formerly the Real Education Podcast.

    Blake Boles & Kevin Currie-Knight on Why Are You Still Sending Your Kids to School?

    Blake Boles & Kevin Currie-Knight on Why Are You Still Sending Your Kids to School?

    This special episode celebrates the release of Blake’s new book, Why Are You Still Sending Your Kids to School?, which is now available through local bookstores, Amazon.com, and other marketplaces. Joined by guest host Kevin Currie-Knight, Blake discusses how kids learn to work hard when given the freedom to self-direct, the nature of “intensive parenting,” the true value of a college degree, and how to avoid dogmatic thinking in education. Learn more about the book here: https://blakeboles.com/y/

    • 1 hr 2 min
    Jim Dwyer on Homeschooling Philosophy, Law, and Regulation

    Jim Dwyer on Homeschooling Philosophy, Law, and Regulation

    James Dwyer is a professor of law at William & Mary Law School and the co-author of Homeschooling: The History & Philosophy of a Controversial Practice (University of Chicago Press, 2019). Following the arc of Jim’s excellent book (co-authored with historian Shawn Peters), we discuss some foundational questions related to homeschooling, such as: What is the state’s role in family affairs? To what extent are children their own people? What basic human goods does every young person deserve to access? And most interestingly, what is the proper way to regulate homeschooling in the United States? Professor Dwyer received his law degree from Yale Law School and a Ph.D. in political and moral philosophy from Stanford University. He teaches Family Law and Youth Law (among other subjects) and has authored a half dozen books and dozens of articles on child-welfare related topics.

    • 1 hr 19 min
    Zoe Greenhouse on Hiking the PCT Instead of Going to High School

    Zoe Greenhouse on Hiking the PCT Instead of Going to High School

    17-year-old Zoe Greenhouse (zoegreenhouse.com) talks about her recent decision to stop going to school and attempt a thru-hike of the 2,650-mile Pacific Crest Trail (PCT). Zoe discusses her background as an unschooler and world-schooler, the handful of private and public schools she attended, her decision to leave school and spend 5+ months on the PCT, and how she has prepared for the journey. Zoe started her hike in March of 2020. Follow her progress on Instagram: @zoegreenhouse [Please pardon the sound quality—Zoe and I were each on the road, without proper recording equipment or reliable wi-fi.]

    • 37 min
    Maya Landers on Postponing College (Perhaps Forever)

    Maya Landers on Postponing College (Perhaps Forever)

    Maya Landers (mayalanders.com) is a 22-year-old lifelong unschooler from Austin, Texas, who always thought she would go to college to study English. Yet at 17 she opted to take a gap year… followed by another gap year… which turned into another gap year…. and yet another! We discuss Maya’s decision-making process regarding college, how she spent her gap years (doing a combination of writing, volunteering, working, and teaching English in China), how she built community, how she made it all work financially. We also touch on her plans for the future and her advice for other young adults considering a similar trajectory.

    • 38 min
    Matthew Gioia on Sudbury Ideals vs. Reality

    Matthew Gioia on Sudbury Ideals vs. Reality

    After teaching 6th grade reading at a tough school in Mississippi, Matthew Gioia discovered the Sudbury Valley School literature and quickly became enamored. Like many people (myself included) Sudbury represents an idyllic philosophy that leaves behind the baggage of conventional education. But how do the ideals match up with actual Sudbury schools? Matthew joins me to discuss the day-to-day realities of school governance, the justice system, motivation, staff-student relations, adult non-intervention, and preparing for life beyond school at the Hudson Valley Sudbury School (sudburyschool.com) where he has worked for seven years.

    [Apologies for the background noise on Matthew's end, it was due to a hyperactive laptop fan!]

    • 1 hr 12 min
    Kerry McDonald on Entrepreneurial Education

    Kerry McDonald on Entrepreneurial Education

    Kerry McDonald (fee.org/kerry) is the author of the 2019 book, Unschooled: Raising Curious, Well-Educated Children Outside the Conventional Classroom, as well as a regular contributor to Forbes, the Cato Institute, and the Foundation for Economic Education. We discuss Kerry’s faith in the private sector to nurture innovative education models, what sets her book apart from others, her path through Harvard Graduate School of Education, her role in founding the Alliance for Self-Directed Education, and her mysterious new ed-tech business. (Update: not so mysterious any more! Visit https://unschool.school) Kerry has four children, all of whom are unschooled, and three of whom regularly attend a hackerspace/makerspace in Boston.

    • 40 min

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29 Ratings

29 Ratings

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