Old Wealth, New Wealth, True Wealth

Nathan Barkocy
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Old Wealth, New Wealth, True Wealth is a podcast for the next generation of builders, investors, and creators who want more than money — they want freedom, impact, and purpose. Hosted by Nathan Barkocy, the show explores real assets, real relationships, and real wisdom through conversations with entrepreneurs, economists, and thought leaders shaping today’s financial landscape. Each episode breaks down how wealth is created, protected, and multiplied across generations, helping you level up your mindset, your portfolio, and your life.

  1. APR 29

    The Chicken Soup Strategy: Stories, Scale, and True Wealth with Mark Mark Victor Hansen

    Mark Victor Hansen joins Nathan Barkocy for a powerhouse conversation on what it really takes to build wealth that lasts. In this episode, the legendary co-creator of Chicken Soup for the Soul shares the untold stories behind 144 rejections, bold risks, billion-dollar licensing ideas, and the mindset that turned a simple book concept into a global movement. From bankruptcy and sleeping on the floor to becoming one of the world’s best-selling authors, Mark reveals why true wealth is far more than money—it’s purpose, relationships, service, and legacy. 🎧 Tune in now, subscribe, and share this episode with someone ready to think bigger, serve deeper, and create true wealth that lasts.

    45 min

  2. APR 15

    From Hustle to Presence: The Real Path to True Wealth with Paul Blanchard

    In this powerful episode of Old Wealth, New Wealth, True Wealth, Nathan Barkocy sits down with performance coach and founder of Whole Body Mindset, Paul Blanchard, for a conversation that challenges everything you think you know about success. From hustle culture to nervous system regulation, Paul breaks down why so many high achievers—despite building businesses, scaling revenue, and doing “all the right things”—still feel unfulfilled, overwhelmed, and disconnected. Together, they explore the deeper shift happening in today’s world… one that moves beyond productivity and into presence. This episode isn’t just about business. It’s about redefining what it means to live fully, lead effectively, and actually enjoy the life you’re building.

    51 min

  3. MAR 4

    Building Wealth Without Losing Your Soul with Luke Vercollone

    Send a text In this powerful episode of Old Wealth, New Wealth, True Wealth, host Nathan Barkocy sits down with Luke Vercollone, founder and executive director of Inferno Mission, to explore the intersection of faith, leadership, entrepreneurship, and true wealth. What began as four men praying in a basement has grown into a nationwide Catholic men’s movement rooted in brotherhood, accountability, and spiritual courage. Luke shares how surrendering to the Holy Spirit, prioritizing prayer, and building authentic community can transform isolated ambition into mission-driven leadership that bears lasting fruit. The conversation goes deeper into entrepreneurship through a biblical lens—examining risk, perseverance, stewardship, and legacy. Drawing parallels between modern business leaders and figures like Peter the Apostle, Luke unpacks how faith, humility, and disciplined priorities—especially marriage and family as a primary vocation—are essential to sustainable success. This episode reframes wealth beyond money, emphasizing time freedom, relationships, character, and purpose. For entrepreneurs, leaders, and men seeking alignment between faith and ambition, this is a compelling roadmap for building impact without losing what matters most. Luke Vercollone is a former professional soccer player and the founder of Inferno Men, a Catholic men’s fellowship focused on spiritual formation, brotherhood, and courageous Christian leadership. Luke played collegiate soccer at Seton Hall University, where he earned All-Big East First Team honors as a senior. He went on to a lengthy professional career spanning more than a decade, including time in Major League Soccer with the New England Revolution and several seasons in the United Soccer League with clubs such as the Charleston Battery, Richmond Kickers, and Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC, where he was the club’s first signing and inaugural captain. He retired from professional soccer in 2018. Drawing from the discipline, accountability, and leadership forged through high-level athletics, Luke founded Inferno Men to help men grow in faith, virtue, and fraternity, rooted in the teachings of the Catholic Church. https://www.infernomen.com https://www.instagram.com/lukevercollone/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/mightykicks/ The Old New True Wealth Podcast, hosted by Nathan Barkocy, explores the intersection of legacy wealth, modern entrepreneurship, and faith-driven purpose. Through real conversations with elite investors, founders, and thought leaders, this show teaches you how to build real assets, real relationships, and real freedom—without sacrificing your family, faith, or calling. Because True Wealth isn’t what you accumulate—it’s who you become. Learn more → NathanBarkocy.com Pre-Order the Book → Old Wealth New Wealth True Wealth https://www.oldnewtruewealth.com/ This show is proudly produced at PS Studios — learn more https://www.psstudios.co

    26 min

  4. MAR 2

    Financial Freedom Is Dangerous Without Identity

    Send a text Everyone says they want financial freedom — almost nobody asks the question that determines whether they can actually handle it: who will I be when I get it? In this episode of Old Wealth, New Wealth, True Wealth, host Nathan Barkocy explains why people often sabotage success right after they reach it. The money shows up, but the identity to hold it doesn’t. And without that internal structure, freedom doesn’t feel like liberation — it feels like exposure. Money removes pressure and excuses, but it doesn’t create direction. When options expand, distractions multiply, and without an anchored identity, “freedom” turns into drift. Nathan reframes true wealth as a progression from survival to purpose, where work becomes expression instead of escape. Using sharp analogies—like financial freedom being a race car without a destination—he breaks down why speed without direction becomes chaos, and how true capitalism is value creation rooted in clarity: Who am I? What do I value? What am I here to build? This episode is a call to build the “operator” before the lifestyle, so freedom becomes expansion—not collapse—and your success finally serves the life it was meant to support. The Old New True Wealth Podcast, hosted by Nathan Barkocy, explores the intersection of legacy wealth, modern entrepreneurship, and faith-driven purpose. Through real conversations with elite investors, founders, and thought leaders, this show teaches you how to build real assets, real relationships, and real freedom—without sacrificing your family, faith, or calling. Because True Wealth isn’t what you accumulate—it’s who you become. Learn more → NathanBarkocy.com Pre-Order the Book → Old Wealth New Wealth True Wealth https://www.oldnewtruewealth.com/ This show is proudly produced at PS Studios — learn more https://www.psstudios.co

    4 min

  5. FEB 25

    Why Gold Still Wins with Ronnie Green

    Send a text Ronnie Green of Alpine Gold Exchange breaks down how precious metals can function as spendable, digital money—not just a long-term store of value. He explains Alpine’s approach to helping people buy, hold, and transact in U.S.-minted gold and silver, including practical use cases that make metals feel as frictionless as modern payment apps. The conversation addresses why many people—especially younger generations—no longer view gold as money, and how that gap in understanding has grown alongside ongoing fiat currency depreciation. Ronnie compares gold’s stability to crypto’s volatility, sharing where blockchain technology is compelling and where it still falls short for wealth preservation, transaction costs, and reliability. Ronnie outlines the core advantages that drive adoption: liquidity, privacy, and everyday usability, plus the tax and structural considerations that can make U.S.-minted coinage materially different from bullion or crypto when used for transactions. The episode closes with a grounded framework for newcomers: lead with education, understand risk tolerance, study alternative assets and “debasement trades,” and build a diversified plan that aligns with where you want to be in 10 years. Ronnie Green is an operations and marketing executive with deep experience across precious metals, financial services, and technology-driven businesses. He currently serves as Vice President of Operations and Vice President of Marketing at Alpine Gold Exchange, where he helps scale operational infrastructure, marketing strategy, and client acquisition in the precious metals space. With a background spanning operations consulting, product management, and large-scale project leadership, Ronnie has managed multimillion-dollar budgets, overseen high-volume logistics operations, and helped design and launch B2B technology solutions. His expertise sits at the intersection of execution, strategy, and growth—bringing disciplined operational thinking to complex, regulated industries. https://www.linkedin.com/in/greenronaldj https://alpinegold.com/ exchange@mainstreetmedianetwork.com The Old New True Wealth Podcast, hosted by Nathan Barkocy, explores the intersection of legacy wealth, modern entrepreneurship, and faith-driven purpose. Through real conversations with elite investors, founders, and thought leaders, this show teaches you how to build real assets, real relationships, and real freedom—without sacrificing your family, faith, or calling. Because True Wealth isn’t what you accumulate—it’s who you become. Learn more → NathanBarkocy.com Pre-Order the Book → Old Wealth New Wealth True Wealth https://www.oldnewtruewealth.com/ This show is proudly produced at PS Studios — learn more https://www.psstudios.co

    18 min

  6. FEB 23

    Why Most People Chase the Wrong Definition of Wealth

    Send a text  Most people don’t fail at building wealth — they succeed at building the wrong version of it. In this Old Wealth, New Wealth, True Wealth episode, host Nathan Barkocy breaks down why “old wealth” (protection, saving, stability) and “new wealth” (scaling, leverage, acceleration) both miss the most dangerous question: what is this for? When money becomes the finish line instead of the tool, you can spend decades climbing a ladder only to realize it was leaning against the wrong wall. Nathan introduces True Wealth as the missing third dimension — the framework that measures success by alignment, identity, values, and the life your success is meant to serve, not just accumulation. You’ll hear why money only solves money problems — and why it can’t fix purpose, loneliness, identity, or integrity. Drawing from firsthand exposure to high-net-worth investors and successful operators who still feel empty, Nathan explains how wealth acts as a magnifier: if you’re grounded, it expands impact; if you’re lost, it amplifies chaos. The solution is building the “operator” first — your character, clarity, and internal architecture — so your ambition creates prosperity without costing your health, marriage, or soul. This episode is a rallying call to stop postponing life for “later,” and to build a version of success that actually builds you.  The Old New True Wealth Podcast, hosted by Nathan Barkocy, explores the intersection of legacy wealth, modern entrepreneurship, and faith-driven purpose. Through real conversations with elite investors, founders, and thought leaders, this show teaches you how to build real assets, real relationships, and real freedom—without sacrificing your family, faith, or calling. Because True Wealth isn’t what you accumulate—it’s who you become. Learn more → NathanBarkocy.com Pre-Order the Book → Old Wealth New Wealth True Wealth https://www.oldnewtruewealth.com/ This show is proudly produced at PS Studios — learn more https://www.psstudios.co

    7 min

  7. FEB 18

    From House Hacking to Scale: The Multifamily Syndication Blueprint with Caleb Johnson

    Send a text In this episode of Old Wealth, New Wealth, True Wealth, host Nathan Barkocy sits down with multifamily investor and Red Sea Capital founder Caleb Johnson to unpack the real-world progression from “first deal” momentum to scalable, investor-backed commercial acquisitions. Caleb shares how he started investing at 18, used house hacking with an FHA structure to get into his first fourplex, and leveraged rental income to qualify—then turned an early exit into a portfolio-building flywheel through a 1031 exchange strategy. The conversation moves from small multifamily into syndications, including what changes when you shift from being a minority owner to leading deals as a GP. Caleb breaks down why Red Sea Capital chose vertical integration—bringing property management in-house—after hard lessons with third-party managers, and how operating locally (with a clear Phoenix acquisition cadence) supports tighter execution, better accountability, and stronger protection of investor capital. Beyond tactics, Nathan and Caleb dive into the mindset behind “True Wealth”: faith-first leadership, mentorship as a shortcut to competency, and building cashflow with the long-term intent to create generational impact through giving—supporting financial literacy, nonprofits, and resources for families in need. Caleb Johnson is a real estate investor and founder of Red Sea Capital, with a track record of scaling rental portfolios and multifamily assets at an early stage in his career. An entrepreneur since age 18, Caleb has built significant real estate holdings—including multifamily and retail properties—by leveraging strategic partnerships, underwriting expertise, and creative deal structuring. His investing philosophy emphasizes disciplined underwriting, relationship-driven sourcing, and scalable wealth creation for investors. Caleb also shares his insights on building real estate streams of income, managing assets, and navigating market opportunities with emerging and seasoned investors alike. https://www.linkedin.com/in/caleb-johnson-7b7300205?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app The Old New True Wealth Podcast, hosted by Nathan Barkocy, explores the intersection of legacy wealth, modern entrepreneurship, and faith-driven purpose. Through real conversations with elite investors, founders, and thought leaders, this show teaches you how to build real assets, real relationships, and real freedom—without sacrificing your family, faith, or calling. Because True Wealth isn’t what you accumulate—it’s who you become. Learn more → NathanBarkocy.com Pre-Order the Book → Old Wealth New Wealth True Wealth https://www.oldnewtruewealth.com/ This show is proudly produced at PS Studios — learn more https://www.psstudios.co

    40 min

  8. FEB 11

    Real Estate Before 18: Build Wealth Without Bank Loans with Ethan Wohlwend

    Send a text In this powerful episode of Old Wealth, New Wealth, True Wealth, host Nathan Barkocy sits down with Ethan Wohlwend, a teenage real estate investor who has built a 42-unit portfolio—with 16 more units in motion—before most people graduate high school. Ethan shares how growing up around real estate investor association (REIA) meetings shaped his understanding of money, freedom, and long-term thinking from an early age. From early lessons learned through unconventional “investments” to mastering creative financing strategies like seller financing, subject-to deals, and private lending, Ethan explains how action, education, and relationships—not age—drive results. This conversation dives deep into why real estate is a long-term wealth vehicle, how leveraging time as your most valuable asset creates exponential advantage, and why credibility and integrity matter more than capital. Ethan breaks down how investors under 18 can legally and strategically get started, why waiting for “someday” is the most dangerous mindset in wealth creation, and how win-win thinking unlocks opportunities others miss. If you want a real-world blueprint for building wealth through real assets, disciplined action, and Main Street investing—without hype, shortcuts, or get-rich-quick fantasies—this episode delivers clarity, conviction, and practical insight at every level. Ethan A. Wohlwend is a real estate investor, author, and speaker who began investing at an exceptionally young age and has built a substantive real estate portfolio while still in his teens. He started buying investment properties at age seven and earned his Ohio Professional Housing Providers certification at just nine years old, making him one of the youngest to achieve this professional credential. Ethan is the author of the bestselling book The Treehouse and regularly shares insights on investing, financial literacy, and wealth building through speaking engagements and media appearances. He continues to grow his holdings across real estate, precious metals, and cryptocurrencies while inspiring young and seasoned investors alike. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ethan-wohlwend https://www.instagram.com/wohlwendethan/ The Old New True Wealth Podcast, hosted by Nathan Barkocy, explores the intersection of legacy wealth, modern entrepreneurship, and faith-driven purpose. Through real conversations with elite investors, founders, and thought leaders, this show teaches you how to build real assets, real relationships, and real freedom—without sacrificing your family, faith, or calling. Because True Wealth isn’t what you accumulate—it’s who you become. Learn more → NathanBarkocy.com Pre-Order the Book → Old Wealth New Wealth True Wealth https://www.oldnewtruewealth.com/ This show is proudly produced at PS Studios — learn more https://www.psstudios.co

    30 min
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Old Wealth, New Wealth, True Wealth is a podcast for the next generation of builders, investors, and creators who want more than money — they want freedom, impact, and purpose. Hosted by Nathan Barkocy, the show explores real assets, real relationships, and real wisdom through conversations with entrepreneurs, economists, and thought leaders shaping today’s financial landscape. Each episode breaks down how wealth is created, protected, and multiplied across generations, helping you level up your mindset, your portfolio, and your life.

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