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In this episode of On The Rail Podcast, we discuss with Robin Frid, Adam and Kelley Wainscott explore the complexities of ethics and sportsmanship within the horse industry.



They delve into personal and professional backgrounds, sharing philosophies on maintaining integrity and exemplary conduct amid competitive pressures. The conversation emphasizes the importance of clear communication, trust, and open dialogue to foster ethical relationships.



It also highlights the role of Professional Horsemen Associations within APHA and AQHA in providing support and resources for professionals and the community. Contact information for mentorship and guidance through these associations is provided.



This episode offers valuable insights into maintaining industry standards and ethical practices.

00:00 Welcome Back to On the Rail Podcast


00:52 Meet Our Esteemed Guests


07:01 Diving into Sportsmanship


17:53 Exploring Ethics in the Horse Industry


37:01 The Trainer-Client Relationship


47:13 The Value of Long-Term Success in Horse Training


47:57 The Importance of Transparency and Red Flags in Client Relationships


48:27 Navigating Negative Conversations and Red Flags


50:41 The Role of Discernment in Matching Clients and Trainers


53:01 Creating a Trusting Environment for Amateurs


53:51 Effective Communication Between Trainers and Clients

59:12 Handling Difficult Conversations and Maintaining Professionalism


01:04:17 The Emotional Challenges of Ending Client Relationships


01:14:02 Promoting Sportsmanship and Ethics in the Industry


01:23:23 Encouraging Professional Development and Industry Involvement

In this episode seasoned trainer, Shannon McCulloch Bacon shares her extensive knowledge and experience in equitation.



Shannon discusses her journey and emphasizes the importance of core strength, balance, and correct posture in equitation riding. She provides detailed advice on training horses and riders, managing horse stride length, achieving the correct riding form, and transitioning from novice to advanced equitation patterns.



The episode also addresses listener questions, offering practical solutions for common equitation challenges. Shannon encourages riders to invest as much energy in equitation as other events and shares information on how to contact her for lessons and further guidance.

00:00 Introduction to the Episode


00:48 Shannon's Journey into Equitation


04:28 The Challenges and Techniques of Saddle Seat


06:49 Fundamentals of Equitation


15:07 Training Programs and Horse Preparation


35:30 Listener Questions and Common Mistakes


41:32 Effective Horse Training Techniques


43:01 Listener Questions: Catching the Right Diagonals


43:42 In-Depth Tips for Diagonal Training


52:48 Strategies for In-Moment Corrections


54:47 Transitioning from Level One to Level Three


01:01:46 Sitting the Trot on Big Moving Horses


01:04:21 Understanding Maneuver Scores


01:08:05 Proper Hand Positioning and Gallop Transitions


01:14:07 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

In this episode we discuss the upcoming AQHA World Show with Karl Stressman, CEO of the American Quarter Horse Association, and Scott Neuman, Director of Competition and International.



The conversation covers important details about the AQHA World Show, including dates, locations, event scheduling, and the organizational complexities involved. They highlight the efforts made to incorporate feedback from town hall meetings, ensuring a fair and enjoyable experience for competitors.



The guests also discuss the introduction of new classes, the significance of the event's 50th anniversary, and the transition to new facilities. Sponsorship roles are emphasized, showcasing their critical support and the association's commitment to transparency and member satisfaction.



The episode also touches on qualifying deadlines, fee structures, and future enhancements aimed at benefiting AQHA members and participants.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Introductions


01:23 Overview of AQHA World Show


02:14 Scheduling Challenges and Considerations


03:09 Town Hall Meetings and Member Feedback


04:03 Preparation for the Next World Show


09:21 Ranch Events and New Additions


15:31 Sponsorships and Social Aspects


20:53 Memories and Special Plans for the 50th Anniversary


23:57 Scheduling and Cost Management


27:41 Animal Welfare and Drug Testing Initiatives


28:38 Performance Alteration Testing Updates


29:30 Introducing RightFitLife for Riders


30:07 Return of Jackets as Awards


33:00 Youth World Show Enhancements


34:30 Ranch Horse Challenge and Event Commentators


37:08 Future Plans for AQHA World Show


39:44 Affiliate Support and Membership Benefits


41:22 World Show Qualifying and Entry Details


45:59 Financial Transparency and Paybacks


47:38 Contact Information for World Show Inquiries

In this enlightening episode of On the Rail podcast, we converse with four distinguished Australian horsewomen, Shelly Lalor, Deanne Warwick, Janet Mansley, and Lara McEachern



The discussion navigates their rich histories in horse showing, contrasts between American and Australian equestrian scenes, the DIY culture of horse training, and the logistical challenges of managing extensive distances in Australia. They highlight youth engagement, economic impacts, and the strong communal support in their equestrian circles.



Additionally, aspirations for the future, the balance between children's education and training, and the growth potential in the ranch riding and amateur sectors are explored. The episode closes with an invitation to international audiences to witness Australia’s horse shows and cultural hospitality.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Introductions


01:17 Shelly's Equine Journey


01:42 Deanne's Equine Journey


02:09 Janet's Equine Journey


04:20 Lara's Equine Journey


05:41 Discussion on Australian Stock Horses


08:13 Camp Drafting Explained


09:34 Regional Differences in Horse Disciplines


12:25 Rise of Ranch Riding in Australia


21:38 Challenges of Horse Showing in Australia


28:56 Balancing School and Horse Showing


33:18 DIY Training and Community Support


51:13 Transitioning Young Horses to Amateur and Youth Riders


52:26 Comparing Horse Training Costs: US vs Australia


54:26 The Benefits of Keeping Horses at Home


56:55 DIY Horse Culture in the US and Australia


57:54 Encouraging Owner Riders in Competitions


01:02:50 The Versatility of Youth Riders


01:12:02 Future Goals and Aspirations in the Horse Industry


01:22:58 Inviting International Participation in Australian Horse Shows


01:30:27 Concluding Thoughts and Farewells

In this episode of the On The Rail podcast, we discuss horse training techniques for working with yearlings and two-year-olds. Special guests Amber Duckett, Gavin Pope, and Megan Seehafer share their expertise on prepping young horses for in-hand trail and lunge line classes, emphasizing the importance of early training and balancing it with horse welfare.



Key topics include building trust, avoiding overworking, and ensuring positive show experiences. The conversation also delves into techniques for achieving effortless control and maneuvering, maintaining proper space and positioning, and teaching body commands for effective training.



Practical tips are provided for both professional trainers and DIY amateurs, highlighting essential skills like trot turns, handling mouthiness, and performing back-through exercises to excel in trail classes. The episode underscores the significance of first impressions, correct presentation in the show pen, and setting horses up for successful competitive maneuvers.


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00:00 Welcome and Housekeeping

01:18 Meet the Guests

03:50 Diving into In-and Trail

05:05 Training Techniques and Benefits

14:01 Balancing Training and Welfare

21:17 Deciding on Show Potential

32:00 Preparing Yearlings for Shows

42:03 Exposing Yearlings to Obstacles

45:49 Critical Thinking in Horse Training

47:22 Judges' Expectations for Yearling Classes

50:00 First Impressions in the Show Ring

52:56 Tips for Handling Yearlings

01:01:52 Addressing Mouthiness in Horses

01:08:40 Navigating Poles and Back Throughs

01:15:55 Final Tips for DIY Amateurs

In this episode of the On The Rail podcast, we are joined by Carol Timke who discusses the Midwest Cash Incentive Challenge (MCIC) for Midwest horses, exhibitors, and owners.



Carol shares her extensive experience in the horse industry, talks about the objectives and origins of the MCIC, and highlights the unique aspects of this inclusive program.



The conversation covers various topics including the combination of different horse breeds in the MCIC, the importance of promoting non-pro and amateur participation, class offerings, and the role of sponsors in making the program a success. Carol also touches on the viability and expansion of the MCIC, the challenges encountered, and the rewarding process of creating a community-focused horse showing environment.


00:00 Welcome to the On the Rail Podcast

00:50 Meet Carol Timke: A Journey with Horses

02:33 Settling in Iowa: Career and Family Decisions

03:35 Introduction to the Midwest Cash Incentive Challenge

04:36 Combining Color Shows: A Collaborative Effort

08:49 Eligibility and Objectives of the MCIC

14:55 Stallion Program and Inclusivity

19:30 Class Offerings and Participation

23:38 Sponsorship and Community Support

26:46 Engaging Stallion Owners and Breeders

28:24 Sponsorship Strategies and Challenges

30:37 Class Structure and Entry Fees

33:04 APHA Chrome Cash and Additional Fees

35:34 Program Evolution and Future Opportunities

41:45 Community and Family Atmosphere at Shows

44:32 Sponsorship Details and Final Thoughts