Deep, meaningful "no holds barred" conversations about the Conscious Life and about what it means to be human.Jeff Krisman has conversations with spiritual practitioners, healers, and teachers about their evolution and about what they are learning on their journeys.He also has conversations with people from all walks of life who have gone through deep transformation who share their life journeys and the most formative lessons learned along the way.There is nothing that is too deep, too dark, or too heavy.These are not the typical conversations that you hear on podcasts......these are conversations that are spontaneous, unpredictable, and that can take sudden twists and turns that go places that are unknown before the journey begins.These journeys have no map to find out the way to the destination as the destination will only be known after we arrive there.Real Conversations And Real StoriesThought ProvokingConsciousness AlteringEnlighteningNo LimitsNo Scripts
A Conscious Conversation With Meg Sutherland
Jeff sits down with Meg Sutherland as she shares deeply about her inner journey through the process of creation of The Victory of Greenwood project and what it all means to her personally. She also speaks very compellingly about her own evolution through this process.
To learn more about The Victory of Greenwood project and the book, visit
Meg Sutherland is a communications and marketing professional with over 15 years of experience. Much of her focus has been on helping area non-profits that provide assistance for women, children and minorities. Most recently, she co-founded Spark Collaborative which supports creative projects with some element of social responsibility. The most recent of these is the Victory of Greenwood where she performs extensive research, editing and grant writing.
Her pro-bono work has included providing public relations services to TulsaNow and as a storyteller for Code for Tulsa (a local brigade of Code for America). She was also instrumental in the creation of Tulsa Little Jam, a video and podcast series showcasing area musicians and performers, which launched in Tulsa in 2018. Meg graduated, cum laude, from Langston University in 1996 with a B.A. in Psychology. She has two adult sons and resides in Tulsa, OK.
The Victory of Greenwood endeavors to tell the story of Greenwood from the perspective of the heroes and entrepreneurs who built Greenwood and then rebuilt it after its destruction. Historians have published many books and articles about the days surrounding the 1921 Race Massacre, but Tulsa knows very little about the founding of Greenwood. We as a city know even less about Greenwood's reconstruction. Against all odds, the neighborhood was built again, better than before, and became known as “Black Wall Street”.
The name Victory of Greenwood is attributed to Timantha Norman, executive editor of the Tulsa Star. She and her staff have been wonderful joint partners throughout the process of writing this article series and book and we're grateful for their collaboration.
We began publishing a series of articles in the fall of 2019 with the goal of sharing Greenwood's story from the perspective of its founders and significant historical figures. The project will cover Greenwood’s early history, the 1921 massacre, Greenwood's rebuilding, and its prosperity through the late 1960s, focusing on the neighborhood’s great nationwide legacy. Every day that we work on this project, we uncover a piece of history that Tulsa has not seen for decades-in some cases for over a century.
The article series will be published as a book in May, 2021. We are producing a series of events, a video series, a podcast and a web-based interactive timeline and archive, and will be contributors to the collections/exhibits housed at the Greenwood Rising Museum.
We have listened to our city’s conversation about the massacre and about Greenwood’s history and legacy for the past 20 years and we believe that it is incomplete. This project, for us, is an attempt to tell the story of Greenwood’s triumphs so that as a city we might learn from and be inspired by the people who rebuilt the neighborhood in spite of the tremendous challenges they faced.
Greenwood’s history is incredibly rich, multifaceted, and fascinating. By learning the individual human experiences of Greenwood residents, Tulsa can begin to come together as a community promoting growth, cooperation, equity and respect for all its citizens. Perhaps other communities will look to Tulsa’s efforts and be moved to strive for their own growth and reconciliation. The Victory of Greenwood continues.
A Conscious Conversation With Michelle Bias
Jeff sits down with Michelle Bias as she shares deeply about her work with people, about her own Journey and evolution, and about some very important lessons that she has learned along the way.
To learn more about Michelle and her work, visit
If you are in a session or a workshop with Michelle, you’ll find she brings spunk, experience, non-judgment, and integrity. She will guide you towards creative ways to look at life to see where old paradigms and worn-out narratives can be shifted and integrated.
Michelle holds a Masters Degree in Transpersonal Psychology with an undergrad in Psychology & Behavioral Sciences. She is a RYT 200 Yoga Instructor, Certified Astrologer, EFT practitioner, Karmic Theory Konnector, Writer, and Artist. She has a private practice and works with clients in the Tulsa area as well as remotely across the U.S via Zoom.
Why does systemic work matter? I know first hand the impact this work has had in my life. It is powerful. If an individual is willing, it can be the catalyst for new growth and perspective. I love guiding people to a place in their life where they can access more resources and support. I want more ground to stand upon for all people. I love to see people stepping into the bright, shining lights they are. Regardless of how one finds a road towards healing, it is important to remember that everyday you have a choice.
My commitment to myself and others: To be the best me I can be. I am a teacher and mostly, I am a student. In case you are wondering, yes, I have a coach. I have mentors, and I have teachers. I would not be here showing up in this way if I didn’t.
A few other things about me: I’m a public speaker, facilitating TeamBuilding workshops for businesses and organizations. I co-founded OK, So Tulsa’s Storyslam in 2013 (which became a non-profit in 2020) and before covid, co-hosted the event each month.
A Conscious Conversation With Carissa Pankey
Jeff sits down with Carissa Pankey as she shares very deeply about her experiences with the creative process, with awareness, and with presence at a deeper Conscious level.
A Conscious Conversation With Christiaan McPherson
Jeff sits down with Christiaan McPherson as he shares deeply about his Journey, evolution, and lessons learned along the way.
He also speaks about what his work as the General Manager of H2Oasis Float Center & Tea House means to him at a deep level.
Christiaan also speaks about the benefits of floatation therapy, about float culture, and he also takes a deep dive into the world of tea.
To learn more about H2Oasis Float Center & Tea House or to contact Christiaan directly, visit
A Conscious Conversation With Nicole Chrisman
Jeff sits down with Nicole Chrisman as she shares very deeply about her work, about her Journey, and about her evolution and lessons learned along the way.
To learn more about Nicole and her work, visit
Nicole Chrisman is an Evidential Medium, Spiritual Teacher and Author dedicated to bringing departed loved ones and those in the living together since 2008. Spiritual development, particularly the study of Mediumship and Intuitive abilities has been the center of her purpose driven passion her entire adult life.
She is considered to be one of the “movers and shakers” of Mediumship in the Midwest. Combining fifteen years of training and personal study, she has been helping others connect to the other side professionally for over a decade. Known for her straightforward and compassionate approach Nicole provides for a unique and accurate experience.
She has worked to develop her gift at Arthur Findlay College, workshops and personal development and had the pleasure to work along side other well known mediums in her field.
Currently, Nicole has also been called to teach others how to connect with their spiritual gifts and incorporate spirituality into their everyday lives by focusing on family, personal spiritual development and overall well being.
It is her goal that in sharing her own spiritual gifts, teaching others and encouraging continual growth she will help individuals embrace their spiritual potential.
Nicole is also a loving and dedicated mother to her three amazing children and resides in Tulsa, OK with her soul partner.
A Conscious Conversation With Joe Moody
Jeff sits down with Joe Moody to hear him share deeply and compellingly about his Journey, about his evolutions, and some of the most formative lessons that he has learned along the way.
To learn more about Joe, his work, and to access his articles that are published on Medium, visit