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Presenting and Speaking is an art and a science. Confident public speaking and presenting are crucial for entrepreneurs, thought leaders, and C-suite executives. So how does someone with great ideas transform into a skilled public speaker?

Public speaking can be difficult for many, MANY people. Introverts would rather crawl into a blanket fort and hide than be in the spotlight. Experienced public speakers need a place to deepen and extend their presenting skills.

Each episode of the Ongoing Mastery: Presenting and Speaking podcast features conversations and interviews on performance, presenting tools, and public speaking. Kirsten draws on her 20+ years as a speaker and trainer to share her insights and talk with industry leaders.

Irreverent, nerdy, and unafraid to call it as she sees it, Kirsten will be your snarky friend who tells it to you straight while making you laugh. New episodes drop every Tuesday morning.
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Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking Kirsten Rourke

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Presenting and Speaking is an art and a science. Confident public speaking and presenting are crucial for entrepreneurs, thought leaders, and C-suite executives. So how does someone with great ideas transform into a skilled public speaker?

Public speaking can be difficult for many, MANY people. Introverts would rather crawl into a blanket fort and hide than be in the spotlight. Experienced public speakers need a place to deepen and extend their presenting skills.

Each episode of the Ongoing Mastery: Presenting and Speaking podcast features conversations and interviews on performance, presenting tools, and public speaking. Kirsten draws on her 20+ years as a speaker and trainer to share her insights and talk with industry leaders.

Irreverent, nerdy, and unafraid to call it as she sees it, Kirsten will be your snarky friend who tells it to you straight while making you laugh. New episodes drop every Tuesday morning.
Join the Ongoing Mastery community and thrive as a presenter and public speaker.

https://www.rourketraining.com/

    Bonus Episode - How Important is Storytelling?: Interview with Ryan Austin of Cognota

    Bonus Episode - How Important is Storytelling?: Interview with Ryan Austin of Cognota

    In this week's episode of Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking, Kirsten talks with Ryan Austin of Cognota about storytelling, public speaking, and why learning & development needs to be part of design and operations from the beginning.
    Our favorite moments:
    (02:25) Anything you do involves telling stories as part of communication(04:03) It’s ok not to be sharp around the edges(05:50) Don’t practice a script, practice the key points you want to remember(08:39) A partner operating model positions L&D as a partner with the business to effectively prioritize and collaborate(12:32) Despite feeling nervous, take the initiative. The worst that can happen is a “no”(13:27) Build a Learning Culture Committee or Advisory Board to position L&D as problem-solvers, not order-takers(14:22) First define success, then work backwards to assess how to get there(17:44) Community is at the core of Cognota, not an add-on    
    If you enjoyed this conversation about the entrepreneurial journey, check out Season 2, Episode 21, my conversation with Kristin N. Spencer about why storytelling is so powerful. The link is in the show notes.
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    Read a transcript of this episode:  https://share.descript.com/view/FRUL62WGLOd
    For the video version of this episode: https://youtu.be/AoRz_4I701E
    What Is a Learning Management System (LMS)? | Definition from TechTargetWhat is a learning experience platform (LXP) and how is it used?The Room Where It Happens | Hamilton Wiki | FandomTell to Win - #1 New York Times Best Seller | PeterGuber.comLearnOps CommunityVirtual LearnOps® Summit 2023CognotaWhat is the Power of Storytelling? Interview with Kristin N. Spencer - Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking
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    • 21 min
    Bonus Episode - Do Experienced Speakers Get Nervous?: Interview with Kristen Nielsen Donnelly, Ph.D.

    Bonus Episode - Do Experienced Speakers Get Nervous?: Interview with Kristen Nielsen Donnelly, Ph.D.

    In this week's episode of Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking, Kirsten talks with Kristen Nielsen Donnelly about the connection between nervousness and a speaker’s responsibility to their audience. Hear how the idea of a sandbox helps Kristen be more flexible onstage.
    Our favorite moments:
    (02:45) If you’re not nervous before public speaking, you don’t recognize your responsibility in the moment(03:19) The audience’s attention is a non-renewable resource(07:13) Conversations about profit are different from conversations about revenue and earning a living(08:00) Appropriate revenue to live on is limited by your own ethic(09:52) Speaking is about connecting with people’s humanity(12:04) For Kristen, the idea of calling invokes more an idea of service, less of performance(15:24) Kirsten respects showmanship, but has to know what’s underneath  (19:49) Strict pedagogy needs to marry showmanship(21:41) You can improvise all you want to inside your sandbox(23:34) The nerves should stay, but the post-analysis does have to be as painful as it might be for you now
    If you enjoyed this conversation about the entrepreneurial journey, check out Season 1, Episode 5, our conversation managing your energy while speaking onstage. The link is in the show notes.
    Rourke Training’s webpage: https://www.rourketraining.com/
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    Read a transcript of this episode:  https://share.descript.com/view/DgNFjBq2Do0
    For the video version of this episode: https://youtu.be/26WidZf4pFY
    S1 Ep5 | Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking - How Do Speakers Manage Their Energy?National Speakers AssociationTony Robbins - The Official Website of Tony RobbinsJoel Osteen Hugh Jackman's tour: The Man. The Music. The Show. "The Music Man" Tickets 2023/2024 | Hugh JackmanCorporate Training For Employee Engagement And Retention - Abbey ResearchThe Culture of Burnout - Abbey ResearchKirsten's TEDx talk, "The Art of Communicating Effectively for Hybrid and Online Work"Dean Hankey, The DEAN of Success! – VIP, 'Care-Is-Magic' Marketing Magician & People Pro!Home | Innovation Women
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    • 29 min
    What’s New in Our Entrepreneurial Journey?: Season 5 Wrap-up

    What’s New in Our Entrepreneurial Journey?: Season 5 Wrap-up

    In this week's episode of Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking, Kirsten and Kellie talk about current developments in their entrepreneurial journey. Find out why Kirsten’s rediscovered a database she built years ago and what it’s like for Kellie, who’s a partner in two separate start-ups right now.
    Our favorite moments:
    (00:36) Everything that changes is really good data for getting to your goals(03:26) If you’re a big picture person, you need a detail-oriented person on your team, because the little bits still need to be taken care of(07:35) Reframe failure as iterations(08:34) Even experienced entrepreneurs sometimes need to pivot(11:20) Self-care is crucial for entrepreneurs(13:15) Kirsten plays video games when she needs a break(13:52) Kellie rests by moving more, getting some form of exercise
    If you enjoyed this conversation about the entrepreneurial journey, check out Season 1, Episode 10, our wrap-up of season one that took an earlier look at how we came to be entrepreneurs at all. The link is in the show notes.
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    Read a transcript of this episode:  https://share.descript.com/view/NqQHWDlGiK7
    For the video version of this episode: https://youtu.be/UBcW52EOr6k
    S1 Ep 10 | Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking Season One Wrap-Up: What Did We Learn?Serial comma (aka Oxfrd comma) - WikipediaClickUp Productivity ToolKaren Blades' profile on LinkedInKirsten's video on using NotionNo Man's Sky video gameYMCA of the USA Home | Innovation Women
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    • 17 min
    Why Practice Public Speaking?: Interview with Natalie Bullen

    Why Practice Public Speaking?: Interview with Natalie Bullen

    In this week's episode of Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking, Kirsten talks with Natalie Bullen, sales coach and messaging guru extraordinaire, about why public speaking is like going to the gym and how to build community. Find out which business choice she calls bullshit on.
    Our favorite moments:
    (05:06) A slide deck is a liability(09:47) Your company’s band objective need to resonate in your speech(13:24) People who say they’re not good at public speaking really mean they haven’t practiced their skills enough(16:36) Do an audit of your ethos, mission, marketing, and mission at least once per quarter(19:50) Natalie’s advice for building community (19:53) Show up every day(20:45) Identify your stakeholders(22:12) Have fun (23:17) Create your own continuing education calendar (25:15) Hold yourself accountable for learning the thing it’ll take to grow your business (27:13) If you want what you say that you want, you will walk the talk
    If you enjoyed this conversation with a strong woman with strong opinions, check out Season 1, Episode 9: my interview with Cait Donovan on why burnout is her superpower. The link is in the show notes. 
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    Read a transcript of this episode:  https://share.descript.com/view/clmtY053I6D
    For the video version of this episode: https://youtu.be/rjsNAgZhHZA
    Natalie Bullen's Facebook pageNatalie Bullen on Instagram - @unapologeticwealthNatalie Bullen's website | Unapologetic WealthHow the CliftonStrengths Assessment Works | EN - GallupTED: Ideas Worth SpreadingS1 Ep 9 | Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking - Interview: Cait Donovan and Why Burnout is Her Superpower The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell | Hachette Book Group
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    • 35 min
    Why is Context Important for Speaking and Presenting?

    Why is Context Important for Speaking and Presenting?

    In this week's episode of Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking, Kirsten and Kellie talk about adaptability and engaging your audience, especially when you have specific learning objectives to meet. Find out why Kirsten rewards the ugliest PowerPoint presentation, why Kellie’s students have to confront a taboo topic in The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde, and why context matters.
    Our favorite moments:
    (02:00) Education needs to change in specific settings to focus on the problem that needs to be solved, not a predetermined, standardized list(03:02) Higher education is often iterative(04:55) People don’t learn from dull(05:56) Close reading means to stop, notice, and analyze(09:59) Analysis requires curiosity(10:28) Making connections between topics is how people deepen their knowledge(14:23) Context matters(16:27) Use more than one track or approach to reinforce your key points(18:02) Kellie’s takeaway: analysis starts with noticing the details(18:23) Kirsten’s takeaway: take creative risks
    If you enjoyed this conversation about making connections among topics, check out Season 4, Episode 48:   Why is Adaptability Key for Changing Workplace Culture? The link is in the show notes.  
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    Writer Oscar Wilde arrested in England (1895)Ribaldry (or Blue Content) - WikipediaStrange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde - WikipediaAnnie HallHome Alone 2: Lost in New YorkMacbeth - Entire Play | Folger Shakespeare LibraryMolly Patterson, "Honors Track" - The Atlantic (June 2012)S4 Ep48: Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking - Why is Adaptability Key for Changing Workplace Culture?The Moth's new book | How to Tell a Story
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    • 20 min
    Why is Humor Effective for Communication?: Interview with Heather Tolley-Bauer

    Why is Humor Effective for Communication?: Interview with Heather Tolley-Bauer

    In this week's episode of Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking, Kirsten talks with Heather Tolley-Bauer about comedy and connecting with audiences. Find out the first rule of using humor and the difference between telling a joke and creating an atmosphere of levity.
    Our favorite moments:
    (01:38) The first rule of comedy is you have to know your audience(02:08) Health benefits of laughter(02:22) Laughter builds trust, likeability, connection(05:27) Humor evolves over time and is tied to culture(07:10) If you’re going to have a good comedy game, you need a good apology game, too(09:50) You have to have a good command of language to be a good comedian   (10:51) Listening is key to Heather’s client research(11:40) Comedy has to elevate something and/or someone(12:35) The difference between telling a joke and creating an atmosphere of levity(13:44) Humor often doesn’t work in business communication because it’s not authentic(15:02) Not knowing your one main idea holds people back from successful communication(16:16) You can’t stay stagnant(16:47) The biggest point: it’s not about you; it’s about what your audience wants and needs to hear
    If you enjoyed this conversation about why speakers need to stay current about humor and popular culture, check out Season 2, Episode 15: Do Experienced Speakers Need Ongoing Mastery? The link is in the show notes.
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    Read a transcript of this episode:  https://share.descript.com/view/0b4kDVBL9y8
    For the video version of this episode: https://youtu.be/x1nDDOER740
    S2 Ep25: Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking - Do Experienced Speakers Need Ongoing Mastery?Venn diagram - WikipediaGroupthink | Psychology TodayKevin Hart - Rotten TomatoesUrban Dictionary: Punching downHeather's LinkedIn profileHyphenUp – Comedy for Women and CouplesHeather on InstagramBlack Hat | Home
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    • 19 min

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Highly Recommend this Show to Anyone Speaking/Presenting/Podcast Guesting

As a speaker and podcast booking agent I have found Kirsten's show to be incredibly valuable! Whether a person struggles with doing presentations or is very experienced, there are so many nuggets of wisdom to help us further hone our craft and this business of using our voices to affect change!

I love Kirsten's casual style as it feels like I'm sitting next to her along with her guest and simply being part of a conversation over a cup. Delightful and informative!

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