Out for Blood: The Story of Carrie the Musical Broadway Podcast Network

In 1988 the Royal Shakespeare Company teamed up with the creators of Fame to turn Stephen King's horror novel ‘Carrie’ into a musical. The result was one of Broadway's most infamous disasters. For fans Holly and Chris, an obsession was born.
In episode 1, having rediscovered a dusty VHS bootleg of the show in the midst of a global pandemic, they dive into the roots of the ‘Carrie’ story with Stephen King expert and collaborator Bev Vincent, hear from the show’s lyricist Dean Pitchford about the musical’s origins, and chat to original workshop 'Carrie White' Annie Golden (Orange is the New Black, Hair, Desperately Seeking Susan) and her cast-mates Laura Dean and Julie Cohen about those heady early days.
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Out for Blood is hosted by Holly Morgan and Chris Adams, edited by Tom Moores, with original music by Odinn Orn Hilmarson and artwork by Rebecca Pitt.
Out for Blood is a proud member of the Broadway Podcast Network.
Thanks this week to Dean Pitchford, Annie Golden, Laura Dean, Julie Cohen, Bev Vincent and Rich Hawkins.
NEW! Chris's book Out for Blood: a Cultural History of Carrie the Musical is out now - order from the publisher or all good book stores. You can now also order OFB t-shirts, hoodies, totes, stickers, pins and more here!
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A bootleg recording of the workshop production of Carrie can be found on YouTube.

Here’s Dean Pitchford and Michael Gore winning the 1981 ‘Best Original Song’ Oscar for Fame.

A video guide to Alban Berg’s opera Lulu, which inspired the creation of Carrie the Musical.

Watch the trailer for Brian de Palma’s acclaimed 1977 Carrie movie. Look out for an appearance from Betty Buckley, who goes on to star in the musical.

Bev Vincent edits the Stephen King newsletter News From The Dead Zone and co-editor (with Stephen King) of the anthology Flight or Fright.

The iconic Annie Golden performs with The Shirts at a CBGB’s reunion.

Check out Julie Cohen’s (also known as Jewels Nation) band The Nations and Laura Dean’s YouTube channel Micro Mangia.

And here’s Laura singing a mashup of Fame/I Sing the Body Electric.

She dropped out of high school this morning, tonight, she’s a Times Square Hooker! Don’t miss the trailer for Streetwalkin’, the B-movie Annie and Julie were shooting each night during the Carrie workshop! [content warning: boobs]

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Holly and Chris’s dreams come true as they chat with members of the original cast of Carrie the Musical over wine, including Charlotte D’Amboise (Chris), Sally Ann Triplett (Sue) and legendary OG Carrie White herself, Linzi Hateley, not to mention several members of the half-British, half-American ensemble and crew.
The cast share their audition stories and their first experiences in the rehearsal room - including their memories of navigating the unusual choreographer/director pairing of Debbie Allen and Terry Hands - and describe what happens when you throw together 30 young, sexy musical theatre performers in a quaint English town full of pubs.
We also investigate why the Royal Shakespeare Company got involved in all this chaos in the first place, and learn the truth about an infamous misunderstanding that will define the iconic design of this very unusual musical.
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Out for Blood is hosted by Holly Morgan and Chris Adams, edited by Tom Moores, with original music by Odinn Orn Hilmarson and artwork by Rebecca Pitt.
Out for Blood is a proud member of the Broadway Podcast Network.
NEW! Chris's book Out for Blood: a Cultural History of Carrie the Musical is out now - order from the publisher or all good book stores. You can now also order OFB t-shirts, hoodies, totes, stickers, pins and more here!
Thanks this week to Dean Pitchford, Linzi Hateley, Sally Ann Triplett, Charlotte D’Amboise, Georgia Otterson, Michelle Du Verney, Shelley Hodgson, Suzanne Thomas, Joey McKneeley, Kenny Linden, Eric Gilliom, Michelle Nelson Manne, Jeremy Sturt, Wendi Peters and Mark Shenton.

THIS WEEK’S LINKS:

The RSC was inspired to develop Carrie after its first commercial musical Les Miserables was a hit in London and New York - clips from the original production (and here’s the legendary Linzi Hateley performing in it after leaving Carrie).

Carrie co-producer Fritz Kurtz had found success transferring English mega-musicals to Germany including Starlight Express, which is still running.

Terry Hands defends the unusual production model of Carrie in this 1988 Washington Post article.

Imelda Staunton as a mature Dorothy in the RSC’s The Wizard of Oz


Debbie Allen as Lydia Grant in Fame.

The iconic Barbara Cook in the 1960 production of The Music Man.

Darlene Love sings on Phil Spector’s Christmas (Baby Please Come Home). It may be January but we can still enjoy this.

The talented Gene Anthony Ray dances in Fame.

The Carrie Playbill, featuring the ensemble playing themselves.

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Rehearsals for Carrie the Musical continue in Stratford-upon-Avon, England. But as the show hurtles towards its opening night, the cast soon feel like they’re working on two very different shows, and the frustration of the writing team grows as they’re cut out of the creative process. 
Meanwhile, trouble is brewing behind the scenes as musical legend Barbara Cook begins to doubt that Carrie is the ideal vehicle for her big Broadway comeback, making her point known with a very un-subtle gift for Director Terry Hands. But is an on-stage accident on opening night enough to call a halt to proceedings?
And finally, as the British critics file their reviews - is Carrie really ready for its big Broadway transfer? (Spoiler: it is not).
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Out for Blood is hosted by Holly Morgan and Chris Adams, edited by Tom Moores, with original music by Odinn Orn Hilmarson and artwork by Rebecca Pitt.
Out for Blood is a proud member of the Broadway Podcast Network.
NEW! Chris's book Out for Blood: a Cultural History of Carrie the Musical is out now - order from the publisher or all good book stores. You can now also order OFB t-shirts, hoodies, totes, stickers, pins and more here!
Thanks this week to Dean Pitchford, Linzi Hateley, Sally Ann Triplett, Charlotte D’Amboise, Georgia Otterson, Michelle DuVernay, Shelley Hodgson, Suzanne Thomas, Joey McKneeley, Kenny Linden, Eric Gilliom, Michelle Nelson Manne, Audrey Lavine, Jeremy Sturt, Peter Mckintosh, Mark Shenton and Brice Stratford (yes, he really does have the same surname as this episode).
THIS WEEK’S LINKS: 

A video of Debbie Allen running a dance rehearsal for the song ‘Wotta Night’ at the RSC in Stratford.

Terry Hands and Debbie Allen come together to rehearse the beginning of the prom sequence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjlPaachf7A.

An on-stage tech rehearsal for ‘In’ at the Royal Shakespeare Theatre. 

The bootleg RSC archive video of the full Stratford edition of Carrie the Musical

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The eager Carrie cast arrives in the Big Apple only to discover that very little has been done to address the show’s major problems, and that the show’s set has been lost in transit. But there is one major addition: Betty Buckley, a big-name Broadway star has joined the company.
As the team nervously prepares for opening night, will New York audiences and critics be kinder to the show? We follow the journey from previews to press night to the shocking announcement that will shape Broadway history. 
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Out for Blood is hosted by Holly Morgan and Chris Adams, edited by Tom Moores, with original music by Odinn Orn Hilmarson and artwork by Rebecca Pitt.
Out for Blood is a proud member of the Broadway Podcast Network.
NEW! Chris's book Out for Blood: a Cultural History of Carrie the Musical is out now - order from the publisher or all good book stores. You can now also order OFB t-shirts, hoodies, totes, stickers, pins and more here!
Thanks this week to Dean Pitchford, Linzi Hateley, Sally Ann Triplett, Charlotte D’Amboise, Georgia Otterson, Michelle Du Verney, Shelley Hodgson, Suzanne Thomas, Joey McKneeley, Kenny Linden, Eric Gilliom, Michelle Nelson Manne, Jeremy Sturt, Wendi Peters and Mark Shenton.
 THIS WEEK’S LINKS:


Bootleg audio from a rehearsal of Linzi Hateley joined by new co-star Betty Buckley, and bootleg video of Betty’s infamously epic performances of ‘Eve Was Weak’ and ‘When There’s No One’.

A bootleg audio recording of the show on Broadway, and a bootleg video of Act 1.

The only known (and very blurry) footage of ‘The Destruction’ on Broadway, from an unaired German documentary, shot from the control booth.

“You could take your money and throw it”... some TV reviews of the Broadway production. It ain’t pretty, folks.

Some very grainy footage of the cast backstage on their final day.

Andrew Lloyd Webber’s shady feedback at the opening night party.

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In the first of two special episodes, we take a close look at the original 1988 staging of Carrie, examining it song by song and scene by scene to try and work out exactly where things go wrong and why this show became so infamous in Broadway history. We’re re-assessing Carrie from all angles!
First up, Act One - and the audience is perplexed to be discover Carrie's high school is represented by an enormous shiny white box. The dancers share some intimate details about 80s microphone technology, we hear the reaction to Linzi Hateley’s big opening number, and we debate what an ‘active gland’ might be. We would go bowling if you REALLY cared! 
As well as our gang of original cast members and a handful of superfans, we’re joined by writer and composer Stephen Dolginoff (‘Thrill Me: The Leopold and Loeb Story’), online performance pioneer Peter Michael Marino (‘Desperately Seeking Susan’) and general legend/future Margaret White Kim Criswell who all saw the show in 1988 and lived to tell the tale.
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Out for Blood is hosted by Holly Morgan and Chris Adams, edited by Tom Moores, with original music by Odinn Orn Hilmarson and artwork by Rebecca Pitt.
Out for Blood is a proud member of the Broadway Podcast Network.
NEW! Chris's book Out for Blood: a Cultural History of Carrie the Musical is out now - order from the publisher or all good book stores. You can now also order OFB t-shirts, hoodies, totes, stickers, pins and more here!
Thanks this week to Dean Pitchford, Linzi Hateley, Sally Ann Triplett, Charlotte D’Amboise, Georgia Otterson, Michelle DuVernay, Shelley Hodgson, Suzanne Thomas, Joey McKneeley, Kenny Linden, Eric Gilliom, Michelle Nelson Manne, Audrey Lavine, Jeremy Sturt, Peter Michael Marino, Stephen Dolginoff, Kim Criswell, Mark Silver, Scott Briefer, Robbie Rozelle, Peter Mckintosh and Todd Graff. 
THIS WEEK’S LINKS:

The unofficial Carrie Archive Channel on YouTube has plenty of bootleg videos of Carrie so you can check out all the madness yourself

Check out the sites of Stephen Dolginoff and Peter Michael Marino


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We continue our deep, deep dive into Broadway’s most infamous flop as we charge head-first into the madness and mayhem of Act Two! 
And mayhem it really is! Leather outfits! Dead pigs! Is that a medieval sword? A rap! A giant disco ball! Lasers! Oh my!
As the audience cracks up at the infamous line ‘it’s a simple little gig, you help me kill a pig, and I’ve got some plans for the blood’, we hear first-hand from the cast about that iconic but tricky blood-soaked finale, not to mention the reaction to Broadway’s most expensive staircase. And can it really be true that the cast was met by a chorus of boos at the curtain call… or is there more to it? Wotta night!
Oh! Also - did anybody mention that Carrie is telekinetic? No?

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Out for Blood is hosted by Holly Morgan and Chris Adams, edited by Tom Moores, with original music by Odinn Orn Hilmarson and artwork by Rebecca Pitt. 
Out for Blood is a proud member of the Broadway Podcast Network.
NEW! Chris's book Out for Blood: a Cultural History of Carrie the Musical is out now! You can order now from the publisher or all good book stores. You can now also order OFB t-shirts, hoodies, totes, stickers, pins and more here!
Thanks this week to Dean Pitchford, Linzi Hateley, Sally Ann Triplett, Charlotte D’Amboise, Georgia Otterson, Michelle DuVernay, Shelley Hodgson, Suzanne Thomas, Joey McKneeley, Kenny Linden, Eric Gilliom, Michelle Nelson Manne, Audrey Lavine, Jeremy Sturt, Todd Graff, Peter Michael Marino, Stephen Dolginoff, Kim Criswell, Mark Silver, Scott Briefer, Peter Mckintosh, Bob Sembiante and Keith Butler.
THIS WEEK’S LINKS:

The unofficial Carrie Archive Channel on YouTube has plenty of bootleg videos of Carrie so you can check out all the madness yourself. They’ve also compiled this megamix of audience reactions.

A bootleg video of ‘Crackerjack’ in Stratford vs an audio of the renamed ‘Out for Blood’ on Broadway - which is your favourite? Either way, enjoy.

Sally Ann Triplett’s (Sue's) cut song ‘White Star’.

Linzi Hateley performs ‘When There’s No-One’ (paid content).

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