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Out of Order is a German Marshall Fund podcast about how our world was, is, and will be ordered. How do we save democracy, rule of law and global cooperation? Why do some people not want to? Much-maligned experts try to come up with answers here.

The Out of Order podcast brings together different international experts from the German Marshall Fund of the United States and beyond to talk about politics, economics, technology and everything else that might help us understand our disordered world.

Out of Order The German Marshall Fund of the United States

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    • 4.8, 26 Ratings

Out of Order is a German Marshall Fund podcast about how our world was, is, and will be ordered. How do we save democracy, rule of law and global cooperation? Why do some people not want to? Much-maligned experts try to come up with answers here.

The Out of Order podcast brings together different international experts from the German Marshall Fund of the United States and beyond to talk about politics, economics, technology and everything else that might help us understand our disordered world.

    From Houston to Kiev, a Global Approach to Helping Veterans Return Home

    From Houston to Kiev, a Global Approach to Helping Veterans Return Home

    The experience of military veterans returning home may often be thought of as a local or national issue - but it’s universal.

    From studying Denmark’s veteran's transition resources and applying best practices back in the U.S., to the unlikely path that led him to help establish the first Ministry of Veteran’s Affairs in Ukraine, no one appreciates the global aspect of veteran’s affairs than John Boerstler, CEO of the Houston-based Combined Arms and an alum of GMF’s Marshall Memorial Fellowship

    • 33 min
    GMF + Intelligence Squared U.S. Debate: Nationalism Is a Force for Good.

    GMF + Intelligence Squared U.S. Debate: Nationalism Is a Force for Good.

    From Brexit to “America First,” Modi in India, Erdoğan in Turkey, and Bolsonaro in Brazil, nationalism has been on the rise. Now, the coronavirus pandemic has sparked debate about the future of governance. While the nation-state has been praised for securing the needs of its citizens and serving as the most efficient form of political organization, nationalism has a dark side of insular politics and xenophobia. Does this moment require international leadership, or should nationalism prevail?  

    • 51 min
    Post-Pandemic Order with William Yang

    Post-Pandemic Order with William Yang

    In many ways, Taiwan has a front row seat, with the coronavirus pandemic, Beijing’s new national security law, and geopolitical uncertainty further impacting Taiwan’s already tenuous position. On this episode, GMF’s Julie Smith and Deutsche Welle’s East Asia Correspondent, William Yang, dive into the most relevant questions for the island today.

    • 39 min
    Post-Pandemic Order with Jüri Luik, Estonian Minister of Defense

    Post-Pandemic Order with Jüri Luik, Estonian Minister of Defense

    When the pandemic spread to Europe, NATO was met with a unique challenge: it needed to assist with crisis response while also keeping its ever-important deterrence mission intact on its Eastern Flank.  On this week’s episode of “Post-Pandemic Order,” Derek Chollet talks with a key leader in this effort, Estonian Minister of Defense Jüri Luik, about how NATO’s mission evolved throughout the pandemic—and what he learned about the military’s role during this unforeseen public health crisis.

    • 44 min
    Post-Pandemic Order with Representative Lauren Underwood

    Post-Pandemic Order with Representative Lauren Underwood

    In this episode of Post-Pandemic Order, guest host Sudha David-Wilp sits down with Congresswoman Lauren Underwood of Illinois's 14th congressional district to discuss the long history of systemic racism in the United States, public health during the coronavirus pandemic, and generational perspectives on governing and leadership.

    • 15 min
    Post-Pandemic Order with Jared Cohen

    Post-Pandemic Order with Jared Cohen

    The perils of disinformation are no new phenomenon, but the last few months have shown just how much damage it can do—and all the different ways it can be used. On this week’s episode, Jared Cohen, founder and CEO of Jigsaw—the independent unit at Google focused on building technology to address global security challenges—joins Derek Chollet to discuss the brave new world of the internet in the post-pandemic order.

    • 36 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
26 Ratings

26 Ratings

nyvonne722daisy ,

Amazing!

This is a great podcast for getting out your mission to a regular audience.

FPwonk2 ,

What an insightful, fresh pod

Loved this, excellent discussion, excellent sound design, cool ideas. More think tanks should do podcasts like this one!

Ravenclaw4lyfe ,

Well produced!

Love the music and the content! Great to see GMF jumping into the podcast game

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