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Face the climate crisis head on, but understand that we have the power to solve this. From former UN Chief Christiana Figueres and the team who brought you the Paris Agreement, this podcast about issues and politics will inform you, inspire you and help you realize that this is the most exciting time in history to be alive.

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Face the climate crisis head on, but understand that we have the power to solve this. From former UN Chief Christiana Figueres and the team who brought you the Paris Agreement, this podcast about issues and politics will inform you, inspire you and help you realize that this is the most exciting time in history to be alive.

    The Power of Disclosure with CDP’s Paul Simpson

    The Power of Disclosure with CDP’s Paul Simpson

    This week, our hosts Tom Rivett-Carnac and Paul Dickinson sit down for an exclusive interview with Paul Simpson as he exits his role as CEO of CDP after co-founding the organization over 20 years ago.
    CDP began in a basement with a few committed individuals to bring about a livable future through the disclosing of environmental data from companies around the globe. While it may have had humble beginnings from a small basement office and only a few employees in 2000, today CDP reports directly on current disclosures that cover over 13,000 companies covering around 64% of global market capitalization.
    So as Paul Simpson wraps up his last few hours on the job, we look back into the roller coaster ride of how CDP discovered that disclosure of information was a latent power that existed in the world, and how they transformed it into a positive force moving both business and government towards a Paris-Aligned trajectory.
    And of course it’s just not our podcast without some amazing music, so this week we have the rootsy band Our Man In The Field with an intimate performance of their single, ‘Thin (I Used To Be Bullet Proof)’.
     
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    Thanks to our guest this week, Paul Simpson!
     
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    Thank you to our musical guest this week, Our Man In The Field!
     
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    • 57 min
    No Doom for Boomers! Mobilizing a Generation with Bill McKibben

    No Doom for Boomers! Mobilizing a Generation with Bill McKibben

    ESG is in hot water - Is it just simmering or is it spoiling?
    When Elon Musk tweets “ESG is a scam” that “has been weaponized by phony social justice warriors.” and a day later, an HSBC executive says that “climate change isn’t a financial risk that we need to worry about,” and then after that Former Vice President Mike Pence writes an opinion in WSJ that “ESG is elevating left-wing goals over the interests of businesses and their employees”...You start to wonder - What is all this fuss about? And why now?
    This week we dig into the future or collapse of ESG as we know it, and is all this attention making ESG better or worse? And later on in the episode Bill McKibben returns to the podcast to talk about his latest venture mobilizing ‘The Greatest Generation’ to take action on Climate Change call Third Act - and his new book, ‘The Flag, the Cross, and the Station Wagon: A Graying American Looks Back at His Suburban Boyhood and Wonders What the Hell Happened. What a title!
    And of course, be sure to stick around for an exclusive podcast performance of ‘Leaving Song’ by Max Jury.
     
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    Mentioned links from the episode:
     
    READ: Could Google’s Carbon Emissions Have Effectively Doubled Overnight?
    READ: The Carbon Bankroll
    ACT: ShareAction
    ACT: Make My Money Matter
     

     
    Thanks to our guest this week, Bill McKibben!
     
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    NEW: Bill’s New Book - The Flag, The Cross, and The Station Wagon
     

     
    Thank you to our musical guest this week, Max Jury!
     
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    • 1 hr 11 min
    How to Feed the World without Devouring the Planet

    How to Feed the World without Devouring the Planet

    Regenesis: Feeding the World without Devouring the Planet is the title of George Monbiot’s new book and an essential challenge that we explore in this Future of Food episode, with the help of George and three other guests committed to transforming our food system. As the current global food crisis continues to push more and more people to the brink of starvation, join us as we take a deep dive into the root causes of the crisis. Surface with a diverse and exciting range of solutions that could ensure we have a ‘glocal’ diverse food system, and a paradigm shift in the way we produce protein that regenerates our planet and feeds our population. 
     
    Our four contributors to this episode are: George Monbiot, celebrated author, activist and environmentalist; Dr Laura Pereira, Associate Professor at the Global Change Institute at the University of Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, South Africa and a researcher at the Stockholm Resilience Centre at Stockholm University in Sweden; Dr Ruchika Singh, Director of Sustainable Landscapes and Restoration at the WRI or World Resources Institute in India; and Josh Tetrick, Co-Founder and CEO of  Eat Just Inc.  You can find their short biographies and links to their work and media platforms below. 
     
    All of our guests were incredible, but a special acknowledgement goes to Ruchika who recorded her interview during the middle of a heat wave in India. It should bring home to us all how climate change is already severely affecting particular regions right now. 
     
    A huge thanks as ever to The Ikea Foundation for supporting us with the making of this episode. Please check out their wonderful work using the links below: 
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    Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now!
     
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    Mentioned links from the episode:
    George’s mentions:
    Solar Foods the precision fermentation company mentioned by George Monbiot who are making food from thin air.  Definitely one to watch! 
    The Land Institute - Perennial Crops  - the initiative mentioned by George Monbiot
    Tolhurst Organic - The Oxfordshire Farmer doing incredible things with soil mentioned by George Monbiot
    Laura’s Mentions
    Scaling Out, Scaling Up, Scaling Deep  by Michelle Moore.  You can read up to 100 articles per month for free on this site if you register.
     
    Ruchika’s Mentions
    The Land Accelerator | World Resources Institute
    TerraFund for AFR100




     
    Thank you to our guests this week:
     
    George Monbiot, Author, Environmentalist and Activist (photo credit Guy Reece)
    George Monbiot is an author, Guardian columnist and environmental activist. His best-selling books include Feral: Rewilding the land, sea and human life, Heat: how to stop the planet burning, and Out of the Wreckage: a new politics for an age of crisis. George cowrote the concept album Breaking the Spell of Loneliness with musician Ewan McLennan, and has made a number of viral videos. One of them, adapted from his 2013 TED Talk, How Wolves Change Rivers, has been viewed on YouTube over 40m times. Another, on Natural Climate Solutions, that he co-presented with Greta Thunberg, has been watched over 60m times.  George’s latest book, Regenesis: Feeding the World without Devouring the Planet, was published in May 2022.
     
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    Dr Laura Pereira, Associate Professor at the Global Change Institute at the University of Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, South Africa and a researcher at the Stockholm Resilience Centre at Stockholm University in Sweden
    Dr Laura Pereira is a member of the Seeds of Good Anthropocenes project and leads two current projects, the first is a Formas funded project entitled “Seeding transformative futures for people and nature in Africa ” and the other is an H2020 project in collaboration with EAT called “Foodtrails”. She also works with

    • 1 hr 3 min
    The Journey Matters: Ending Fossil Fuel Supply with Tzeporah Berman

    The Journey Matters: Ending Fossil Fuel Supply with Tzeporah Berman

    Scientists are reporting that there is now more carbon dioxide in the air than ever before, and with OPEC recently agreeing to accelerate oil production following pressure from the Biden administration to stabilize global markets, what gives? And with cracks showing in the EU as energy prices start to bite, is there a way through this crisis that keeps us on track with the goals of the Paris Agreement?
    Our guest this week has her own solution. We speak to Tzeporah Berman about her journey to form the big and bold Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation Treaty, and what the impact is of the Stockholm 50+ President’s communique calling for a phase out of coal, oil and gas.
    And stick around ‘til the end for some amazing feel good music this week - ‘No Te Rindas’ by Charmant Mushaga!
     

     
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    Mentioned links from the episode:
     
    WATCH: Tzeporah’s TED Talk - The Bad Math of the Fossil Fuel Industry
     

     
    Thanks to our guest this week, Tzeporah Berman!
     
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    Thank you to our musical guest this week, Charmant Mushaga!
     
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    WATCH: ‘All Year Summer’ - Live performance
    WATCH: Solo Nylon Acoustic Live Performance
    READ: Charmant Mushaga: The refugee who has found stardom in Uganda
     

     
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    • 1 hr 3 min
    Presenting: ‘Who Cares Wins’ with Lily Cole and Christiana Figueres

    Presenting: ‘Who Cares Wins’ with Lily Cole and Christiana Figueres

    Today, a special bonus episode in your feed from British model, actress, climate activist and podcaster, Lily Cole.
    In this episode of ‘Who Cares Wins’, Host Lily Cole interviews Christiana Figueres on how to maintain daily optimism, why more women in leadership will deliver a better world, and how systemic change and a livable future can begin with me and you.
     
    Enjoy the episode!
     
    Click Here to listen to more episodes of ‘Who Cares Wins’
     
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    • 45 min
    Why It's "Not Too Late" with Rebecca Solnit and Thelma Young Lutunatabua

    Why It's "Not Too Late" with Rebecca Solnit and Thelma Young Lutunatabua

    Reactions to the now infamous presentation of the suspended HSBC Head of Responsible Investing, Stuart Kirk, is still a source of considerable outrage here at Outrage + Optimism.  Kirk’s presentation entitled "Why investors need not worry about climate risk" peddled such dangerous climate disinformation that it prompted Christiana to refer to it in her brilliant op-ed in Investor Week as one of the most irresponsible public statements we have heard in years. In this week’s episode brace yourself for Paul’s no holds barred account of what he really thinks about Stuart Kirk’s views and hear Christiana expand on why opinions like Kirk’s threaten the emergence of stakeholder capitalism. Tom’s insightful analysis further links the growing movement of incumbents rallying against ‘woke capitalism’ with the corporate disclosure of emissions and climate risk that is about to be regulated in the US and the EU.
     
    Thankfully our main interview this week features a previous, much loved, Outrage + Optimism guest Rebecca Solnit, and the inspirational Thelma Young Lutunatabua whose Not Too Late project offers us the tools to tackle this current wave of disinformation, and provides tangible stories of hope. Hear how the project aims to invite newcomers to the climate movement, as well as providing climate facts and encouragement for people who are already engaged but weary.  Listening to these two incredible women speak about Not Too Late ‘rang a bell of truth in our souls’ as Thelma so beautifully puts it in the interview.  
    Sit back and be sure to enjoy the remarkable track Preacher Man by Mica Millar.
     
    Enjoy the show!
     

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    Not Too Late
    Make sure to visit the Not To Late project launched by Rebecca Solnit and Thelma Young Lutunatabua
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    Mentioned links from the episode:  
    Not So Moral Money?  -  link to the Business Green article Christiana mentions in the episode that deunks Stuart Kirk's presentation.    
    On Being podcast episode with Tarana Burke speaking about the need for ‘revolutionary grace’ mentioned by Thelma. 

      A HUGE thank you to Adam, James and the team at Airaphon this week for editing this week’s podcast while Clay is away!
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    Thank you to our musical guest this week, Mica Millar!
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    • 53 min

Customer Reviews

4.7 out of 5
368 Ratings

368 Ratings

jtimothyknox ,

Consistently Illuminating, Frequently Fun!

Never thought it would find a place among my other weekly listens, but “Outrage and Optimism” somehow broke through and got me hooked. I certainly care a whole lot about the topic (action on climate change) but listening to an hour-long episode each week at first seemed a bit much. This podcast, however, is consistently illuminating, often uplifting, and dare I say, frequently fun! I enjoy each segment of the show — the groovy theme music, the pre-interview chat among Cristiana, Tom, and Paul (always thoughtful, often witty), the interview itself (usually fascinating), the post-interview debriefing (always astute), the musical selection (usually well-chosen and worth a listen), and Clay’s show notes (funny and full of ideas for further listening). So, I’ve become a fan of the show, and love having it on while I vacuum indoors or do yard work outside. I’ve even shared especially good episodes with family and friends. Keep up the good work, O

Climate Ally ,

Thank you

Keep up the amazing work. I love hearing all of your guests and hearing your perspective on your guests. I love your worldview, since many of us US citizens can become super absorbed with our own country. I love your balance. We need the outrage and optimism interwoven together. It's hard to take people who are too Pollyanna and and it's hard to digest too much doom. Thank you!

Galeana1965 ,

Meat consumption

I just found your informative and interesting podcast.
Is there any episode regarding the unsustainable and harmful effects of animal factory farming and the urgency to eat more plants and less animal derivate food .
Thank you.

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