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Every business is in some way a “people business”. Success or failure often comes down to how leaders manage the people dynamics of their organization. People Business is a weekly podcast focused on what it takes to build and lead a successful, profitable business by navigating the human element. The host, O’Brien McMahon, is a Senior Vice President in Lockton’s Total Rewards Group where he works with companies to build and manage their benefits, compensation, and retirement programs. Having met with 300+ companies in the last decade, he’s seen all manner of industries, business models, and leadership styles. He’s fascinated by what makes people tick and how they work together (or don’t).

People Business w/ O'Brien McMahon O'Brien McMahon

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    • 5.0 • 52 Ratings

Every business is in some way a “people business”. Success or failure often comes down to how leaders manage the people dynamics of their organization. People Business is a weekly podcast focused on what it takes to build and lead a successful, profitable business by navigating the human element. The host, O’Brien McMahon, is a Senior Vice President in Lockton’s Total Rewards Group where he works with companies to build and manage their benefits, compensation, and retirement programs. Having met with 300+ companies in the last decade, he’s seen all manner of industries, business models, and leadership styles. He’s fascinated by what makes people tick and how they work together (or don’t).

    World Class Leaders w/ Andrea Petrone

    World Class Leaders w/ Andrea Petrone

    Andrea Petrone is an Executive Coach, Strategic Advisor, Facilitator, and Speaker. He helps CEOs and other C-Suite leaders in the mid-market to drive growth and performance by leading change, building transformational teams, and designing winning strategies. 
    Before launching his advisory firm, Andrea held C-suite executive roles for more than 20 yrs at the international level. He worked in six countries and three continents primarily in the Oil and Energy, Industrial, and Consulting sectors. 
    Andrea hosts the popular podcast "The World Class Leaders Show" where he and his guests deconstruct the success of high-performance leaders, share their stories and teach the most effective strategies to move from average to greatness. Andrea is originally Italian and he lives in London, UK. 
    Mentioned in this Episode: 
    AndreaPetrone.comThe World Class Leaders Show on Apple PodcastsPeople Business Podcast w/ Mike SarrailleTime Codes:
    (3:10) - What are the misconceptions about Executive Coaching?
    (5:55) - What questions do you get from leaders when you first engage with them?
    (8:44) - How many frameworks do you deploy in your work?
    (9:58) - Could you give an example of one of your frameworks?
    (15:25) - How are your clients held accountable?
    (20:22) - How do you get leaders to open up to the fact that they have weaknesses?
    (26:16) - Do you have any methods for easing someone’s ego?
    (30:17) - Where do you start when working with teams?
    (36:59) - What are some great methods for assessing teams?
    (41:50) - What have you found to be best practices for creating an environment of psychological safety?
    (49:07) - What do you notice are the biggest differences in how teams and leaders operate around the world?
    (53:51) - What lessons have you learned in doing your podcast?
    (59:11) - What is the purpose of business?
    (1:00:10) - How can people engage with you online?

    • 1 hr 2 min
    Remote Done Right w/ Liam Martin

    Remote Done Right w/ Liam Martin

    Liam Martin believes we have corrupted "work from home" and turned it into "living at work". He wants to correct those mistakes and help companies run remote the right way. Liam is a serial entrepreneur who runs Time Doctor and Staff.com — one of the most popular time tracking and productivity software platforms in use by top brands today. He is also a co-organizer of the world's largest remote work conference — Running Remote — and has a book out by the same name, helping business leaders put these practices in place in their organizations.

    Mentioned in this Episode:
    Running Remote by Liam MartinRunning Remote on YouTubeRadical Candor by Kim ScottOculus by MetaThe McDonaldization of Society by George RitzerTime Codes:

    (3:25) - Liam’s thesis for Remote Work.
    (6:05) - Why do you believe remote work is a viable option and what are the rules for a good remote working environment?
    (12:27) - Turning “working from home” into “living at work.”
    (14:04) - How did you learn how to set boundaries for Remote Work?
    (17:12) - Remote Work’s impact on the Great Resignation
    (21:46) - What is the role of teams coming together in person?
    (25:34) - What is different about management in an asynchronous organization vs. on-site?
    (36:35) - The open-source aspect of asynchronous management.
    (40:10) - What personality types would struggle with remote work?
    (44:00) - How can we build relationships without being face to face with people?
    (49:41) - How are you training your people?
    (1:01:39) - Is there any struggle in the asynchronous model when a team member works with people outside the organization?
    (1:10:58) - What is the purpose of business?
    (1:14:14) - Where can people find and engage with you?

    • 1 hr 15 min
    Data Drive DEI w/ Laura McGee

    Data Drive DEI w/ Laura McGee

    Laura McGee is the founder and CEO of Diversio, a people analytics company that uses artificial intelligence to help organizations become more inclusive. With offices in Toronto, New York, and London, Diversio was recognized by Fast Company as a “World Changing Idea: Data and AI” in 2021. Prior to Diversio, Laura was a consultant at McKinsey & Company with a focus on economic growth. She was named a Top 25 Women of Influence in 2017 and holds multiple Board positions, including Global Citizen, University of Waterloo, Ted Rogers School of Management, and ArcTern Ventures. 

    Mentioned in this Episode:
    Diversio WhitepapersDiversio Case StudiesThe homophily effect: Homophily and BusinessTime Codes:

    (3:15) - What brought you to DEI work?
    (6:18) - What does it mean to use AI to read data?
    (8:31) - Do you have an example of this algorithm being used in practice?
    (10:00) - How do you filter between issues from employees that stem from home vs. those that stem from the workplace?
    (13:17) - Diversio’s survey techniques and data trends.
    (15:12) - How do you identify the things a client needs to do well?
    (18:47) - How do you effectively implement pilot programs?
    (22:31) - What does the deliverable look like that a client sees when you go through a survey?
    (24:56) - What have been some of the biggest surprises you’ve seen doing this work?
    (28:07) - Are most of the issues you see caused purposefully or due to ignorance?
    (32:25) - What types of disabilities or mental illness are you seeing as being included the least in the workplace?
    (35:11) - What recommendations are you making for employers when it comes to mental health?
    (37:04) - What is neurodiversity?
    (37:33) - How do you respond to someone saying that there are simply too many sub-groups to effectively affirm everyone’s differences and still effectively run a business?
    (40:23) - Open source solutions for people who are motivated to start this work
    (42:34) - What were the conversations like when deciding to open source your work?
    (45:34) - What are the biggest hurdles you see companies facing even with all this data in hand?
    (46:44) - How are companies effectively implementing your feedback and solutions?
    (47:34) - Why would companies use this tool as a risk assessment?
    (50:12) - What are you sick of talking about?
    (52:23) - What are you most excited to be talking about?
    (53:11) - What do you think people are not talking enough about?
    (53:46) - What is the purpose of business?

    • 55 min
    Be Your Own Hype Man w/ Michael F. Schein

    Be Your Own Hype Man w/ Michael F. Schein

    Michael F. Schein is the Head Hype Man at MicroFame Media, a company that specializes in making consultants and coaches famous in their fields. His writing has appeared in Fortune, Forbes, Inc., Psychology Today, and Huffington Post, and he is a speaker for international audiences spanning from the northeastern United States to the southeastern coast of China. His book The Hype Handbook: 12 Indispensable Success Secrets From the World’s Greatest Propagandists, Self-Promoters, Cult Leaders, Mischief Makers, and Boundary Breakers published by McGraw Hill, appears wherever books are sold.

    Mentioned in this Episode:
    Michael Schein on the Grounded Content PodcastBasecampRework book by basecampBrene Brown on VulnerabilityLouis CK on airplane wifi Time Codes:

    (3:26) - What is hype?
    (5:42) - When did hype become something you wanted to dedicate your career to?
    (8:59) - How should the everyday person be thinking about hype?
    (12:26) - How does someone find the right audience for their message?
    (15:06) - “Make war, not love.”
    (20:22) - How does someone pick fights if they don't like conflict? 
    (23:43) - Do you have exercises for this? 
    (24:57) - “Create your own secret society.”
    (31:27) - Re-thinking how you network.
    (44:42) - What type of language resonates most with people?
    (49:37) - How can people add theatricality to a business setting?
    (55:28) - Michael’s take on the phrase “Under-promise & Over-deliver.”
    (1:04:10) - Where can people find you?

    • 1 hr 5 min
    Building Brand Loyalty w/ Skot Waldron

    Building Brand Loyalty w/ Skot Waldron

    Skot Waldron helps businesses and business leaders market and communicate with their internal customers; their employees. With 20+ years in brand development, Skot has turned his focus from external to internal as he applies the lessons of great branding to the employee experience. He has worked with large companies like Royal Caribbean, The Coca Cola Company, and JP Morgan Chase as well as small businesses and entrepreneurs in one-on-one coaching. In this conversation, Skot outlines the steps to his process and gives listeners ideas for identifying and improving their culture and brand. 
    Mentioned in this Episode:
    www.SkotWaldron.com Skot on YouTubeSkot on InstagramDerek Gaunt on the People Business podcastTime Codes:

    (3:27) - Skot’s origin story.
    (4:58) - How do you define marketing and branding?
    (6:08) - Is brand synonymous with reputation?
    (9:02) - Where do you start with clients to begin creating internal branding and marketing?
    (13:25) - What happens when clients get negative feedback about themselves?
    (15:51) - How hard or easy is it for groups to hear negative feedback from you?
    (18:20) - What do some “ah-ha” moments look like?
    (20:55) - How do you define leadership communication?
    (24:40) - What coaching do you give to someone who needs to be better at "pulling"?
    (34:56) - What coaching do you give to someone who needs to be better at "pushing"?
    (50:11) - How can people get in touch with you?

    • 51 min
    The Entrepreneur's Attorney w/ Tricia Meyer

    The Entrepreneur's Attorney w/ Tricia Meyer

    Tricia Meyer is the Founder and Managing Attorney of Meyer Law, one of the fastest-growing law firms in the United States. Meyer helps entrepreneurs and technology companies from startups to large corporations, Shark Tank contestants to companies gracing the Inc. 500. Tricia has been named on the Forbes Next 1000 list, is one of the Most Influential Female Lawyers in Chicago according to Crain’s Chicago Business, and has been recognized as a top 10 technology lawyer. As an entrepreneur, attorney, and mother to a large family Tricia has a unique perspective. In this conversation, we cover a little bit of everything, including legal pitfalls, advice for entrepreneurs, and how to blend the chaos of work and family life.

    Mentioned in this Episode:
    Meyer Law memberships and coursesMeyer Law packages for startupsMeyer Law packages for growing companiesRequest a roadmapThe Psychology of Money by Morgan HouselThe Optimal Amount of Hassle by Morgan HouselLinnea Gandhi on People Business PodcastThe Clever BabyTopics:

    (3:02) - Tricia’s background starting her own business and positioning it as a tech company.
    (9:32) - How much of your time in law school is spent on contracts and the way laws work vs. negotiation and strategy?
    (13:30) - How should decision-makers and business leaders approach their attorneys?
    (14:52) - Where can there be great partnerships between business leaders and attorneys outside of contracts?
    (17:03) - What is your approach to negotiations?
    (18:28) - What’s your husband’s background in entrepreneurship and how did you both get onto this career path?
    (20:48) - What were the conversations like when you decided to start your first business together?
    (24:13) - What do you believe about business that is controversial?
    (29:27) - Was there something about your childhood that instilled your work ethic and confidence? How do you foster that within your own team?
    (34:10) - How do you think about the balance of building your businesses and raising a large family?
    (39:16) - Setting boundaries and being able to say “no.”
    (42:43) - How do you think about sacrifice, when it comes to work and family?
    (47:17) - What are you sick of talking about?
    (48:15) - What are you most excited to be talking about?
    (49:25) - What aren’t people talking about enough?
    (50:30) - What is the purpose of business?

    • 52 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
52 Ratings

52 Ratings

kwebs14 ,

Great Listen

Not a single episode where anyone in the business of people won’t pick up a nugget or three.

Well worth the listen!

Ryan Hyman ,

Great listen

OBrien does a great job of consistently having interesting guests and thought provoking conversations. Always a good use of time to tune in!

Refah Ali ,

O’Brien McMahon Is A Must Listen!

O’Brien McMahon absolutely delivers on robust conversation, educational topics, and inspirational takeaways! I love how O’Brien’s brain works - a must listen!

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