Maxime Fern and Michael Johnstone - Provocation as Leadership Simply, Practically Human with Mark LeBusque

Maxime and Michael believe that in order to create deep change you have to disturb people or at least risk doing so. Their journeys as family therapists to facilitators at Harvard Kennedy School and global experts working internationally in change have led them to recently publish their book 'Provocation as Leadership - A Roadmap for Adaptation and Change'. They share some of their experiences including why purposeful provocation requires heart, creating more crisis is one way to make deep adaptive change, there's a 'stuckiness' to this work that humans looking for more of the same don't like, be wary of the old system lurching in the shadows, and why it's critical to know the difference between positive and destructive provocation. The publisher Routledge is currently offering a 30% discount on the book: https://www.routledge.com/Provocation-as-Leadership-A-Roadmap-for-Adaptation-and-Change/Fern-Johnstone/p/book/9781032342535