How COVID and HIV/AIDS Can Help Us Get Ready For (or Avoid) the Next Pandemic In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt

Dr. Bob calls up AIDS researcher Carlos del Rio and longtime AIDS activist Gregg Gonsalves to explore what the HIV/AIDS epidemic of the ‘80s and ‘90s can teach us about COVID-19 today. They discuss the politicization of both viruses, how the role of activism compares, and how the 30-plus-year quest for an HIV vaccine helped advance the COVID-19 vaccines. Plus, what HIV/AIDS can show us about what it means to return to “normal.”

 

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

 


Watch Dr. Fauci’s full 1984 lecture on research, findings, and questions related to AIDS: https://youtu.be/pzK3dg59TuY 
Learn more about pioneering AIDS activist Larry Kramer, who died last year: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/27/us/larry-kramer-dead.html 
Listen to President Reagan’s Press Secretary, Larry Speakes, laughing about AIDS in the 1980s: https://youtu.be/yAzDn7tE1lU 
Don’t miss this In the Bubble episode with HIV prevention researcher Julia Marcus: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/is-it-ok-to-hug-your-family-after-vaccine-julia-marcus/id1504128553?i=1000507543756 
Check out former Surgeon General David Satcher’s 2005 paper about about health disparities between Black and white Americans: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/7976375_What_If_We_Were_Equal_A_Comparison_of_the_Black-White_Mortality_Gap_in_1960_and_2000 
Read more about Dr. Fauci’s plenary lecture on the HIV and COVID-19 pandemics at the CROI 2021 conference: https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/research-highlights-croi-2021 
Read the New York Times article, ‘America’s Hidden H.I.V. Epidemic,’ that Gregg mentions in today’s episode: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/06/magazine/americas-hidden-hiv-epidemic.html 
Watch an entire performance of Jean Sibelius’s Finlandia here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=fE0RbPsC9uE
Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/ 

 

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