Reaching out to Russia – joining hands or getting the mitten‪?‬ Mark Leonard's World in 30 Minutes

In this week’s podcast, Mark Leonard, Gustav Gressel and Kadri Liik analyse Macron’s plans and ideas for recreating the European security order, an initiative which he launched with a speech at the Ambassador’s conference this year. Moreover, according to French officials, France will instead of starting with a top-down plan, try to build European security from the bottom-up and see if there is a desire in Moscow to make progress on specific issues, one brick at a time. They have laid out a roadmap with five different areas: Disarmament, security dialogue, crisis management, values, and common projects.Further read: “Emmanuel Macron’s very big idea on Russia” by Gustav Gressel, Kadri Liik, Jeremy Shapiro & Tara VarmaThe podcast was recorded on 30 September 2019.Bookshelf- “We Need to Talk About Putin. Why the West gets him wrong, and how to get him right” by Mark Galeotti - “Psychopolitics. Neoliberalism and New Technologies of Power” by Byung-Chul Han
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