Shawn Blanc | Improving Your Productivity and Creative Output Podcasting with Aaron

Highlights, Takeaways & Quick Wins:

For big projects, you need long stretches of uninterrupted time to think and work.

Work on building your focus muscle.

The first five minutes of focus time are the hardest.

Pick a task, pick a time, and do the task at that time.

Show up every day and do your best creative work.

If you can’t overcome fear, push through it—fear is a sign that you’re doing something that matters.

The way you feel about a product doesn’t change how much it’s worth, which is how much the market is willing to pay for it.

Protect your morning productivity time and your mental energy by setting out your clothes the night before.

Don’t undervalue your products.

Pick one thing, do it for two months, and allow yourself to suck at all the other areas of your life—after that, pick a new thing.

Pick one action you can do tomorrow morning that will get you closer to the most important goal.

Show Notes:
Aaron: We both really loved Cal Newport’s Deep Work book. When did you get interested in the idea of intense focus and structuring your life in a way to make sure you get your best creative work done? When did you find that book or that idea and really start working on that?
Shawn: I think I found the idea years ago. When I was a creative marketing director, like I mentioned, I was doing 80 hours a week. Part of my schedule was that on Fridays, I would come home and work from home. I wouldn’t be on email or answer the phone. I had an assistant, and anyone who needed to get ahold of me needed to go through my assistant. She would screen anything and see if it was urgent or important for the day. If it was, she’d let me know.
I set up this distraction-free work time for myself on Fridays, because as the director for the marketing and all the creative stuff we were doing, it was on me to make sure that our marketing campaign for this big, end of the year, 25,000 person conference was going to happen. It was all on me. I had to drive that. You can’t do that in 10-minute time blocks scattered throughout your day.
For big projects, you need long stretches of uninterrupted time to think, process, come up with ideas, and work on stuff.
That was my first experience of going, “I have to have this. If I don’t, I won’t be able to do my job, and I will always be in reaction mode.” That was my first experience, and that was in 2008 when I came across that idea. It was born out of necessity for me. Obviously, that’s not new to the world, but it was new to me. When I quit my job and started blogging for a living, I came to that same spot of saying, “I need to set aside time every day to write without distractions, intentionally.”
That has evolved as we’ve had kids, schedules have changed, and seasons of life go up and down. I need uninterrupted stretches of time on a regular basis to do my most important work and to focus on the stuff that’s not urgent today but is very important. If I neglect it, those things will become urgent, or the needle is going to start going backwards and I’m going to start losing ground.
Why Deep Focus Matters
Shawn: Focused time has always been important. Then I came across Cal’s book, So Good They Can’t Ignore You. I read that in 2015. That’s a fantastic book. There was this chapter in there on intentional practice, and that resonated with me so much. It’s very similar to Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi’s book, Flow.
He has a lot of books on very similar topics on finding flow, getting in the flow, whatever. He has one book called Flow and another one called Finding Flow. It’s the idea that not only do you need those times of uninterrupted work, but when you’re in that moment, if you can get into the flow, it’s challenging, it’s hard, etc, but you feel more rewarded. You feel better. You have a higher motivation about the work you’re doing. You feel like you accomplished something.
I don’t know if anyone listening can relate to this. You spen