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"Power & Consequence" is a podcast that breaks down the lies, grifts, and propaganda peddled by public figures across the internet. Follow your hosts, Matthew and Jelani, down the rabbit hole of alternative facts.

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"Power & Consequence" is a podcast that breaks down the lies, grifts, and propaganda peddled by public figures across the internet. Follow your hosts, Matthew and Jelani, down the rabbit hole of alternative facts.

    Dan Bongino, Fox News, and post-Roe talking points.

    Dan Bongino, Fox News, and post-Roe talking points.

    Recorded on June 30th, Matt and Jay discuss the adjustments to Fox New's propaganda messaging after the overturning of Roe v. Wade. Our hosts check in on Dan Bongino and Lawrence Jones, both of whom think that protests against the Dobbs decision are equivalent to the attempted insurrection of January 6th, 2021.
    1. https://video.foxnews.com/v/6308505102112#sp=show-clips (Dan Bongino on abortion response: ‘It’s not a double standard, it’s a hierarchy’ - Fox News, 6/25/2022)
    2. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/29/abortion-state-lines/ (Antiabortion lawmakers want to block patients from crossing state lines - WAPO 6/30/2022)
    3. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/us/politics/andrew-yang-democrat.html (Andrew Yang Says He Left Democratic Party to Become Independent - NYT 10/14/2021)
    4. https://www.nytimes.com/article/mississippi-abortion-law.html (What to Know About the Mississippi Abortion Law Challenging Roe v. Wade - NYT 5/6/2022)
    5. https://nypost.com/2022/06/25/roe-v-wade-abortion-ruling-protesters-take-to-streets-from-nyc-to-los-angeles/ (At least 25 arrested in NYC as protesters take to streets after Roe v Wade ruling - NY Post 6/25/2022)
    6. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/ (https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/)
    7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu-7L5W6Rew (Schumer accused of threatening Kavanaugh and Gorsuch during rally - CNN 3/4/2020)
    8. https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/06/22/man-accused-kavanaugh-assassination-plot-pleads-not-guilty/ (Man accused in Kavanaugh assassination plot pleads not guilty - WAPO 6/22/2022)
    9. https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-supreme-court-justice-alitos-abortion-history-lesson-dispute-2022-05-06/ (https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-supreme-court-justice-alitos-abortion-history-lesson-dispute-2022-05-06/)
    10. https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/08/14/432080520/fact-check-was-planned-parenthood-started-to-control-the-black-population (Fact Check: Was Planned Parenthood Started To 'Control' The Black Population? - NPR 8/14/2015)

    • 1 hr 24 min
    Ginni Thomas, InfoWars, and the case for Clarence Thomas's Recusal

    Ginni Thomas, InfoWars, and the case for Clarence Thomas's Recusal

    In this episode, our heroes take a closer look at Virginia "Ginni" Thomas and her decades long evolution from Washington Insider to Tea Party / MAGA cultist to her final form: conspiracy theorist and possible QaNon sympathizer.
    Twitter:
    Podcast - @consequencepod
    Matt - @stoptalkingmatt
    Jay - @stoptalkingjayv
    1. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/24/virginia-thomas-mark-meadows-texts/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/24/virginia-thomas-mark-meadows-texts/)
    2. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/03/25/nation/read-texts-virginia-thomas-reportedly-sent-mark-meadows/ (Read the texts Virginia Thomas reportedly sent to Mark Meadows - Boston Globe 3/25/22)
    3. https://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/ginni-thomas-builds-tea-party-list-053059 (https://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/ginni-thomas-builds-tea-party-list-053059)
    4. https://www.npr.org/2022/03/30/1089595933/legal-ethics-experts-agree-justice-thomas-must-recuse-in-insurrection-cases (https://www.npr.org/2022/03/30/1089595933/legal-ethics-experts-agree-justice-thomas-must-recuse-in-insurrection-cases)
    5. https://thehill.com/homenews/media/363623-clarence-thomass-wife-presents-award-to-conservative-activist-who-tried-to/ (https://thehill.com/homenews/media/363623-clarence-thomass-wife-presents-award-to-conservative-activist-who-tried-to/)
    6. https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130688438 (Justice Thomas' Wife Asks Anita Hill To Apologize - NPR)
    7. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/26/us/politics/ginni-thomas-donald-trump.html (Texts Show Ginni Thomas’s Embrace of Conspiracy Theories - New York Times 3/26/22)
    8. https://rumble.com/vay72h-2020-election-sting-operation-donald-trump-blockchain-security-steve-piecze.html (2020 Election Sting Operation Donald Trump BlockChain Security Steve Pieczenik Interview - 11/5/2020)
    9. https://www.npr.org/2021/01/06/953823383/attorney-on-call-with-trump-and-georgia-officials-resigns-from-law-firm (https://www.npr.org/2021/01/06/953823383/attorney-on-call-with-trump-and-georgia-officials-resigns-from-law-firm)
    10. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/clarence-thomas-recuse-jan-6_n_6243372ee4b03516d4288d1a (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/clarence-thomas-recuse-jan-6_n_6243372ee4b03516d4288d1a)
    11. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/19/us/politics/trump-supreme-court-jan-6.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/19/us/politics/trump-supreme-court-jan-6.html)
    12. https://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/09/us/politics/09thomas.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/09/us/politics/09thomas.html)
    13. https://www.c-span.org/video/?292148-7/tea-party-movement (https://www.c-span.org/video/?292148-7/tea-party-movement)
    14. https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/cult/lifespring/main.htm (https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/cult/lifespring/main.htm)
    15. https://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/freedomworks-death-threats-move/2010/08/26/id/368506/ (https://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/freedomworks-death-threats-move/2010/08/26/id/368506/)
    16. https://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/26/us/politics/26threat.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/26/us/politics/26threat.html)
    17. https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-fans-sink-savings-into-iraqi-dinar-scam (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-fans-sink-savings-into-iraqi-dinar-scam)

    • 2 hr 16 min
    State's Rights Part 1: Sen. Mike Braun, The Supreme Court, and a Rare Moment Of Honest Racism.

    State's Rights Part 1: Sen. Mike Braun, The Supreme Court, and a Rare Moment Of Honest Racism.

    Jay, Matt, and Joe dive into the story behind Indiana Sen. Mike Braun's commentswhich seemingly support the overturning of Supreme Court case Loving v. Virginia (1967) which effectively decriminalized interracial marriage in the United States.
    Follow us on Twitter:
    Jay - @stoptalkingjayv
    Matt - @stoptalkingmatt
    Bruce - @rockskickcanyou
    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD2ALvBde8I (FULL INTERVIEW: U.S. Sen. Mike Braun news conference)
    2. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/06/23/both-democrats-and-republicans-care-about-states-rights-when-it-suits-them/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/06/23/both-democrats-and-republicans-care-about-states-rights-when-it-suits-them/)
    3. https://www.wvpe.org/wvpe-news/2022-03-22/u-s-sen-mike-braun-scotus-should-leave-abortion-interracial-marriage-to-states (https://www.wvpe.org/wvpe-news/2022-03-22/u-s-sen-mike-braun-scotus-should-leave-abortion-interracial-marriage-to-states)
    4. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/23/politics/mike-braun-interracial-marriage-comments/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/23/politics/mike-braun-interracial-marriage-comments/index.html)
    5. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/22/sen-lindsey-graham-ketanji-brown-jackson-questioned-religious-faith-scale-one-10/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/22/sen-lindsey-graham-ketanji-brown-jackson-questioned-religious-faith-scale-one-10/)
    6. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/amy-coney-barrett-people-of-praise/2020/10/06/5f497d8c-0781-11eb-859b-f9c27abe638d_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/amy-coney-barrett-people-of-praise/2020/10/06/5f497d8c-0781-11eb-859b-f9c27abe638d_story.html)
    7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mQboKg7xBY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mQboKg7xBY)
    8. https://www.lgraham.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=D78C6B1E-5B92-4133-B71F-40F05121CD06 (https://www.lgraham.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=D78C6B1E-5B92-4133-B71F-40F05121CD06)
    9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-QpXVV6qLk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-QpXVV6qLk)
    10. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/22/indiana-governor-vetoes-transgender-girls-sports-bill (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/22/indiana-governor-vetoes-transgender-girls-sports-bill)
    11. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/26/us/politics/the-dogma-lives-loudly-within-you-revisiting-barretts-confirmation-hearing.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/26/us/politics/the-dogma-lives-loudly-within-you-revisiting-barretts-confirmation-hearing.html)
    12. https://news.gallup.com/poll/20920/martin-luther-king-jr-revered-more-after-death-than-before.aspx (https://news.gallup.com/poll/20920/martin-luther-king-jr-revered-more-after-death-than-before.aspx)
    13. https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt2-1/ALDE_00000408/ (https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt2-1/ALDE_00000408/)
    14. https://news.gallup.com/poll/350174/mixed-views-among-americans-transgender-issues.aspx (https://news.gallup.com/poll/350174/mixed-views-among-americans-transgender-issues.aspx)
    15. https://www.oyez.org/cases/1971/70-18 (https://www.oyez.org/cases/1971/70-18)

    • 1 hr 37 min
    Cringe Moments from CPAC/AFPAC: Ted Cruz, Madison Cawthorne, and Marjorie Taylor Greene

    Cringe Moments from CPAC/AFPAC: Ted Cruz, Madison Cawthorne, and Marjorie Taylor Greene

    In this episode, Matt, Jay, Bruce, and Joe discuss discuss MAGA GOP talking points of the cringiest propagandists of CPAC and AFPAC. Rafael "Ted" Cruz begs for podcast subscriptions; Madison Cawthorn uses debunked anti-communist talking points; and Marjorie Taylor Greene invokes white christian nationalism and then denies doing so.
    NOTE: This episode was recorded on March 2nd but Matt got lazy and did not edit and release it for several weeks.
    Twitter:
    Podcast - @consequencepod
    Jay- @stoptalkingjayv
    Matt - @stoptalkingmatt
    Bruce - @rockskickcanyou
    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqngOtPYwp0 (Ted Cruz At CPAC 2022 On The Fundamental Conflict In America: It's A Battle Between Power and Liberty)
    2. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/22926134/canada-trucker-freedom-convoy-protest-ottawa (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/22926134/canada-trucker-freedom-convoy-protest-ottawa)
    3. https://texaspolitics.utexas.edu/set/ted-cruz-job-approval-trend-0 (https://texaspolitics.utexas.edu/set/ted-cruz-job-approval-trend-0)
    4. https://rumble.com/vvxx34-marjorie-taylor-greene-well-hello-cancelled-americans-the-future-for-our-co.html (https://rumble.com/vvxx34-marjorie-taylor-greene-well-hello-cancelled-americans-the-future-for-our-co.html)
    5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0Ba47MLw14andt=1s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0Ba47MLw14andt=1s)
    6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w2OrHxOtfY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w2OrHxOtfY)
    7. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep-madison-cawthorn-i-dont-give-a-damn-about-european-border-conflict-until-southern-border-is-secured (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep-madison-cawthorn-i-dont-give-a-damn-about-european-border-conflict-until-southern-border-is-secured)
    8. https://www.mediaite.com/news/reporter-asks-jen-psaki-about-joe-rogan-covid-misinformation-should-spotify-go-further/ (https://www.mediaite.com/news/reporter-asks-jen-psaki-about-joe-rogan-covid-misinformation-should-spotify-go-further/)
    9. https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed10.asp (https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed10.asp)
    10. https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed09.asp (https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed09.asp)
    11. https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/25/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-anti-transgender-sign/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/25/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-anti-transgender-sign/index.html)
    12. https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/what-we-do/countries/ukraine (https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/what-we-do/countries/ukraine)

    • 2 hr 47 min
    Gov. George Wallace And The Art Of Lying About Racial Violence.

    Gov. George Wallace And The Art Of Lying About Racial Violence.

    In this episode, Matt and Jelani go back in time to a 1964 speech by infamous segregationist Alabama Gov. George Wallace. Our hosts discuss Wallace's attempts to re-write the reality of state violence against desegregation activists in Birmingham in 1963. Also, he lies about the Civil Rights Act.
    Twitter:
    Show - @consequencepod
    Matt - @StopTalkingMatt
    Jay - @stoptalking jayv
    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKi6oghwTsQ (George Wallace speaking at UCLA 1/10/1964)
    2. https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1919/10/05/106999010.pdf?pdf_redirect=trueandip=0 (https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1919/10/05/106999010.pdf?pdf_redirect=trueandip=0)
    3. http://www.shoppbs.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/wallace/peopleevents/pande01.html (http://www.shoppbs.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/wallace/peopleevents/pande01.html)
    4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcPGiGvo-uU (George Wallace Segregation Speech)
    5. https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/speeches-african-american-history/1963-george-wallace-segregation-now-segregation-forever/ (https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/speeches-african-american-history/1963-george-wallace-segregation-now-segregation-forever/)
    6. https://news.gallup.com/poll/180107/gallup-review-black-white-differences-views-race.aspx (https://news.gallup.com/poll/180107/gallup-review-black-white-differences-views-race.aspx)
    7. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1687/race-relations.aspx (https://news.gallup.com/poll/1687/race-relations.aspx)
    8. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/01/16/50-years-ago-mixed-views-about-civil-rights-but-support-for-selma-demonstrators/ (https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/01/16/50-years-ago-mixed-views-about-civil-rights-but-support-for-selma-demonstrators/)
    9. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/oasam/civil-rights-center/statutes/civil-rights-act-of-1964#:~:text=In%201964%2C%20Congress%20passed%20Public,hiring%2C%20promoting%2C%20and%20firing (https://www.dol.gov/agencies/oasam/civil-rights-center/statutes/civil-rights-act-of-1964#:~:text=In%201964%2C%20Congress%20passed%20Public,hiring%2C%20promoting%2C%20and%20firing).
    10. https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/civil-rights-act#transcript (https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/civil-rights-act#transcript)
    11. https://www.nps.gov/articles/16thstreetbaptist.htm (https://www.nps.gov/articles/16thstreetbaptist.htm)
    12. https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/birmingham-campaign-1963/ (https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/birmingham-campaign-1963/)
    13. https://donate.doctorswithoutborders.org/secure/monthly?source=ADD2202U2U01andutm_source=googleandutm_medium=cpcandutm_campaign=BRAND.DWB_CKMSF-BRAND.DWB-GS-GS-ALL-DWBBrand.All-BO-ALL-ETA-DWB-MONTHLYandgclid=CjwKCAjwxOCRBhA8EiwA0X8hi8v_jeW1c4BhjIlfURenJ7ljjmPJziOeue47_BLKtCpWHUFw6yVs5xoCuw0QAvD_BwE (Doctors Without Borders Donation Page)

    • 1 hr 22 min
    Ron Desantis, Kristi Noem, and the Art of Censorship via Private Lawsuits.

    Ron Desantis, Kristi Noem, and the Art of Censorship via Private Lawsuits.

    In this episode, Matthew and Jelani tackle GOP bills and laws from around the United States that take aim at trans athletes, "woke CRT," and anyone offends a student's religous (christian) beliefs. What do these laws have in common? Private lawsuits modeled after Texas's anti-abortion law, SB8.
    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rQeSfXaQm0 (Kristi Noem signs major bill regarding transgender athletes)
    2. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/noem-signs-bill-banning-transgender-participation-in-girls-sports (Gov. Noem signs bill banning transgender participation in girls' and women's sports - Fox News)
    3. https://theintercept.com/2022/02/03/anti-trans-bills-south-dakota-sports-youth-health-care/ (Anti-Trans Bills Are Moving Through State Legislatures With Remarkable Speed - The Intercept)
    4. https://www.npr.org/2021/10/27/1049530975/ncaa-spends-more-on-mens-sports-report-reveals (The NCAA's focus on profits means far more gets spent on men's championships)
    5. https://sdlegislature.gov/Session/Bill/22957/231879 (https://sdlegislature.gov/Session/Bill/22957/231879)
    6. https://legiscan.com/OK/text/SB1470/id/2484266/Oklahoma-2022-SB1470-Introduced.pdf (https://legiscan.com/OK/text/SB1470/id/2484266/Oklahoma-2022-SB1470-Introduced.pdf)
    7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tFUEXDHIz8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tFUEXDHIz8)
    8. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/sep/08/alana-mclaughlin-trans-mma-fighter-combate-global (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/sep/08/alana-mclaughlin-trans-mma-fighter-combate-global)
    9. https://listen.sdpb.org/politics/2022-01-26/top-noem-adviser-terrorism-comparison-transgender (https://listen.sdpb.org/politics/2022-01-26/top-noem-adviser-terrorism-comparison-transgender)
    10. https://www.facebook.com/GovRonDeSantis/videos/introducing-the-stop-woke-act/877277022969704/ (https://www.facebook.com/GovRonDeSantis/videos/introducing-the-stop-woke-act/877277022969704/)
    11. https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Stop-Woke-Handout.pdf (https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Stop-Woke-Handout.pdf)
    12. https://flgov.com/2021/12/15/governor-desantis-announces-legislative-proposal-to-stop-w-o-k-e-activism-and-critical-race-theory-in-schools-and-corporations/ (https://flgov.com/2021/12/15/governor-desantis-announces-legislative-proposal-to-stop-w-o-k-e-activism-and-critical-race-theory-in-schools-and-corporations/)
    13. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/02/07/desantis-anti-woke-act/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/02/07/desantis-anti-woke-act/)
    14. https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/11/us/florida-teacher-shortage/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/11/us/florida-teacher-shortage/index.html)

    • 1 hr 55 min

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Great show!

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Learning but make it funny.

Love this podcast and I hope they continue to grow! Matt and Anna have great chemistry and balance each other well. I always learn new things but it doesn't feel like work. They break things down sentence by sentence in a way that highlights the power of what we're told by people in power

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