On this episode, Ray has a heart to heart with Visionary Empath coach, speaker and poet Ber-Henda Williams. Set against the backdrop of the historic BLM protests after George Floyd's murder, they discuss the task ahead for all of us; the inner work it takes to engage in conscious, sustainable and heart-centred activism in 2020 and beyond. Enjoy! [Time stamps and audio below]
00:01:00 Q: How are you doing, Ber-henda?
00:02:10 The dangers of glossing over pain
00:02:25 The only way to heal is to tell the truth
00:03:00 Q: Advice for those separating the conversation?
00:03:45 The dark origins of America’s police (slave-catchers)
00:04:45 Why is it difficult for some to accept the truth of #BLM?
00:05:25 Sitting with your discomfort
00:06:25 Q: What is your personal journey and your process?
00:06:55 B’s tumour analogy (racism, sexism, colourism)
00:07:45 I never want to become the thing I say I am opposed to
00:08:15 A society built on stolen land (Atonement is needed)
00:08:30 Ber-henda’s heroes (MLK, others)
00:09:10 Venting Vs. Honouring and Expressing our emotions
00:09:30 The perils of emotional bypassing
00:09:55 The importance of moving towards a resolve
00:10:15 The dance between acknowledging/empowering victims
00:11:45 The need for radical honesty
00:12:45 Why its damaging to say ‘I don’t see colour
00:13:00 The lack of basics (water, places to by groceries)
00:14:25 The disconnection between reality and statistics (1873)
00:16:00 Ber-henda’s body metaphor (rest the wound)
00:18:00 Ray’s caution for those diverting their focus from #BLM
00:21:00 The role of the centrist
00:23:00 How neutrality impedes progress
00:26:00 The perils of politicising human rights
00:28:00 Our lived experiences each vary
00:30:00 The black community’s lack of unifying practices
00:32:00 Why change shouldn’t take longer than 5 years
00:33:30 Every human being has the right to live their purpose
00:35:00 Ray’s body analogy (the whole body is on board)
00:37:00 How in nature there is no debate when healing’s needed
00:39:00 The importance of articulating specific needs (#BLM)
00:41:00 Q: What can people do to help #BLM? (Their own skills)
00:43:00 Being of service and acting on shared humanity
00:45:00 Why empaths are suited for helping create change
00:46:00 Q: What is Ber-henda’s Why?
00:48:00 Embodying the beliefs we hold, farewells
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