Rap Capital: The Rise & Reign Of Atlanta’s Hip-Hop Empire

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The dominance of Atlanta’s hip-hop scene has been discussed often, but not in the way Joe Coscarelli covered it in his new book, Rap Capital. Joe, a New York Times music reporter since 2015, spent four years and interviewed over 100 sources to get the contemporary story about Atlanta’s culture-defining music scene.

Characters are what move the story forward in Joe’s book, not discography, record sales, or cultural relevance. Lil Baby is featured prominently, as is his mom. Joe’s relationship with the hit rapper dates back to 2017 when Lil Baby was still a mixtape artist. Another recurring character is Quality Control Music’s Kevin “Coach K” Lee, who has deep-rooted ties with the city’s most well-known artists across eras.

Joe came onto the show to take us through the book’s journey — both for him to write it and the characters themselves. Here’s what we covered:

[2:40] How the book came together and finally clicked

[6:42] Role of Quality Control’s Coach K in Atlanta story

[10:11] Lasting effects of pandemic on music industry

[12:38] Which era of Atlanta hip-hop to focus on? 

[14:09] How streaming helped launch Atlanta rap into the mainstream

[16:10] Building trust with his sources despite racial differences

[18:10] Did Joe receive any pushback while reporting?

[20:19] Evolution key to Atlanta rap’s longevity 

[25:05] Adapting Rap Capital into a movie

[29:45] The crumbling of mainstream culture

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Host: Dan Runcie, @RuncieDan, trapital.co

Guests: Joe Coscarelli, @joecoscarelli

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TRANSCRIPTION

[00:00:00] Joe Coscarelli:  I wanted to tell the story through characters, through people, not just, you know, you can run down the discography of all the amazing Atlanta musicians, right? You can go through the label history, read the reviews. But I always want to sort of pull back like, who's behind these people? Who's behind that person? So that's why I think, you know, mothers were huge, fathers, you know, friends, people who are around these artists growing up, I wanted them to be human characters, and I wanted the side characters to be as big of a part as the famous people 'cause I think they're as crucial to the equation. 

[00:00:30] Dan Runcie: Hey, welcome to the Trapital podcast. I'm your host and the founder of Trapital, Dan Runcie. This podcast is your place to gain insights from executives in music, media, entertainment, and more, who are taking hip hop culture to the next level.  

[00:00:58] Dan Runcie: Today's guest is Joe Coscarelli. He's the author of Rap Capital: An Atlanta Story, and he's a culture reporter at The New York Times. And this book that he wrote, Rap Capital, I cannot recommend it enough. If you listen to this podcast, if you read the newsletter, if you watch any of the clips from our conversations or any of the posts on social media, this book is made for you. It's a street-level epic about the most consequential music culture today, Atlanta Rap. Joe put so much thought and care into how the book came together and tying everything from the Atlanta murders that ha

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