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Richard Haass on Trump, NATO, and the Greenland Crisis

What happens when the global system that’s kept relative peace for 80 years begins to unravel?

In this episode, Jamie sits down with Richard Haass, one of the most respected voices in American foreign policy, to unpack why the post-World War II world order may be over — and why there’s “zero chance” of going back to the way things were.

They discuss:

- Why Richard Haass believes Trump ended an 80-year era

- The real meaning behind Trump’s comments on Greenland

- Whether Europe could “call Trump’s bluff”

- NATO, alliances, and the collapse of predictability

- Ukraine, Russia, Iran, and rising global instability

- Why trust — once broken — doesn’t reset after elections

- What comes after the U.S.-led world order

This is a clear, sober conversation about power, alliances, democracy, and why the world feels more unstable than it has in decades.

If you’re trying to understand what actually changed — and why it matters — this conversation is essential listening.

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