Rooted In Revenue

Susan Finch & Lany Sullivan

Revenue and sales are built on a solid operational foundation that allows marketing to thrive in an ever-changing environment with technology. Brought to you by speaker, branding strategist, producer Susan Finch, and Lany Sullivan, Fractional COO, and Strategic Consultant. This show is part of Funnel Media Group’s monthly line-up of podcasts.

  1. 23H AGO

    Why Your Best Business Tool Might Be Restraint

    Susan Finch sits down with Laura Patterson, President and Co-Founder at VisionEdge Marketing. They explore why businesses chase shiny new tools instead of maximizing what already works, the real cost of remote work on mentorship and professional development, and how strategic restraint might be the most powerful tool in your marketing arsenal. Laura brings decades of experience helping companies achieve measurable business outcomes through marketing, while Susan brings her perspective from working with business-focused podcasts and small- to mid-size companies. Together, they challenge the assumption that more tools, more content, and more technology automatically equals better results. The conversation moves from the "random acts of marketing" that plague so many businesses to the critical importance of in-person mentorship for young professionals. Laura shares insights from her 20-year intern program, while both hosts discuss how the shift to remote work has created a mentorship crisis that's hurting the next generation's ability to navigate difficult conversations and workplace dynamics. Whether you're drowning in marketing tools, struggling to find clarity in your strategy, or wondering how to bring up the next generation of professionals, this episode offers a refreshing dose of reality and actionable wisdom.   Laura Patterson is President and co-founder of VisionEdge Marketing, a growth strategy firm she launched in 1999. A globally recognized expert in customer-centric growth and Marketing Performance Management, Laura has worked with over 300 companies to replace disconnected acts with deliberate, measurable strategies rooted in creating business and customer value. Her career began at Motorola and grew through leadership roles in marketing operations, product and strategic marketing, and customer marketing and loyalty. She is the author of multiple books, including the award-winning Fast-Track Your Business: A Customer-Centric Approach to Accelerate Market Growth, and holds a patent for Accelance®, a SaaS platform that connects activities directly to business outcomes. Laura hosts the "What's Your Edge" podcast and has mentored over 50 marketing interns over 20 years. A LinkedIn Influencer and frequent keynote speaker, she has won over a dozen thought leadership awards. Connect with Laura at visionedgemarketing.com.

    30 min
  2. JAN 28

    How Your Nap Spot on the Couch Affects Your Business Success

    After getting flooded with AI-generated guest pitch emails, Susan and Lany decided to remind everyone what Rooted in Revenue is really about. It's not just about making money. Everything you do impacts your revenue: your sleep patterns, your workspace, your team, even that specific spot on your couch where you always fall asleep. The podcast is about how to keep money from draining out of your business through inefficiency, procrastination, and all those hidden time thieves you don't even notice. Neither Susan nor Lany went to college. They learned to run businesses by working in businesses, making mistakes, and course-correcting. The education system doesn't teach you who to hire first, when to buy the domain, or that you probably don't need a 40-page business plan. Real business transformation takes 9-12 months, not 30 days, because you need space to think, innovate, and rediscover the joy you'd forgotten about. Time is your real currency, and everything is rooted in revenue.   TIMESTAMPS 00:45 - Why they started Rooted in Revenue several years ago  01:45 - Everything impacts your revenue: systems, processes, efficiency 02:30 - You're an athlete in your business: how is the athlete performing? 03:30 - The education system doesn't teach you how to run a business 07:15 - Small Business Development Centers (SBDC) and their limitations  08:15 - The problem with business plan obsession  11:45 - The biggest deficit: time, not money  13:15 - The trap of creating vs. implementing with AI tools 13:45 - The Love-Hate-Delegate framework  17:30 - Using spreadsheets with formulas to track tasks  23:30 - Nine to twelve month process vs. 30-day overwhelm 24:30 - The plan is never the plan: it's a concept 25:45 - Rediscovering joy and forgotten talents  26:30 - Cheryl Walsh's Laguna's underwater mermaid photography metaphor  27:30 - What you say vs. what the team says vs. what consultants find  28:00 - Bringing back the original spark  28:15 - Lany's six-week Chaos Cleanse Facebook group  29:00 - Reviewing old course materials for new insights  29:30 - Keeping materials in a "Stuff I Learned" folder to revisit and search

    28 min
  3. JAN 13

    The Real Cost of Handing Out Company Credit Cards Without Controls

    Susan Finch and Lany Sullivan dig into something nobody wants to talk about but everybody needs to hear. A client's new bookkeeper asked a simple question about canceling a former employee's card. The owner said they already had the card. Turns out the physical card was in a desk drawer, but the numbers were saved in the employee's personal Amazon account. For 18 months. Lany brings her banking background to this conversation - branch operations, mortgage processing, risk management, the whole deal. She's seen what happens when businesses don't have proper controls in place. She's also seen the theft, the fraud, and the embezzlement that follows. They walk through why your bookkeeper just paying the bill isn't oversight. Why the "put it on your personal card and expense it" model doesn't work anymore. Why most employees probably don't need company cards at all. And what to do instead - purchasing processes, approval limits, the works. If you've got company cards floating around and you're not 100% sure where they're saved or what they're being used for, this episode is for you. 00:00 - Introduction and WinCo shopping conversation 00:45 - The company credit card discovery story 02:00 - How easy it is to add cards to personal accounts 03:15 - Why checks and balances are critical 04:15 - Understanding financial leakages and OPM 05:15 - Risk tolerance and compliance boundaries 06:00 - The bookkeeper's role in reconciliation 06:30 - Small business vulnerabilities 07:00 - The American Express expense report model 08:00 - Individual card numbers and identification 09:00 - Generational differences in floating expenses 09:30 - Two-factor authentication and dual signers 10:00 - The four-step purchasing process 11:00 - Setting spending limits and approval levels 12:30 - Trusted contractors and liability 14:00 - Ethical contractor practices 15:00 - Who really needs a company card 16:00 - Onboarding and credit card policy documentation 17:00 - Honest mistakes vs. intentional fraud 18:30 - Simple prevention: stickers on business cards 19:00 - The debt obligation reality 20:00 - Rethinking your approach 21:00 - Executive branch only recommendation 22:00 - Streamlined purchasing processes 23:00 - Questions for your bookkeeper 24:00 - Real theft, fraud, and embezzlement experiences

    25 min
  4. JAN 8

    The Content Churn Killed Quality and We Let It Happen

    We're drowning in content glut. Empty posts churned out to keep up with everyone else. There's no joy, no depth, no controversy. You can FEEL the difference between obligated content versus real engagement. What are we losing? The skill of conversation. The skill of listening. Those spontaneous "hey, come look at this" moments. Pulling each other into offices to analyze something together. These aren't scheduled Q&A sessions. These are the messy, real exchanges where magic happens. Here's what's fascinating: I was editing Deborah Fell's episode when she mentioned a CEO who told her he NEVER takes meetings, that his schedule is impossible, and that she shouldn't even try. But when she said, "Would you like to be on my podcast?" His response? "Oh, I'm glad to do that." Professionals at all levels don't want more meetings, sales pitches, or brain-picking sessions. They want real conversations with pushback. They want to share their stories. The best ones are willing to go eyeball to eyeball on important topics. Stop trying to feed the algorithm with volume. Stop the sycophant responses and empty praise. Stop formatting everything with bullets just because you think you're supposed to. Start having conversations worth recording. Start capturing spontaneity. Start admitting when we don't have the answer and need to think together. Start going back to people and saying, "Remember when we talked about this? What happened?" Consider getting the "monument" update - the current state of a conversation or event of the past. That's what this conversation with Deborah is about. Getting back to real conversations.

    16 min
  5. 11/05/2025

    SOPs - Your Business's Secret Weapon Against Chaos

    Stop drowning in business chaos - your SOPs are the life raft you need. In this game-changing episode, Susan Finch and Lany Sullivan expose why your team's knowledge hoarding is sabotaging growth and share their proven system for creating procedures that actually get used. They reveal why writing at a 5th-grade level isn't dumbing down - it's smartening up your business operations. From horror stories of employees creating secret binders to success stories of businesses transformed through proper documentation, this episode delivers the blueprint for organizing years of scattered procedures into one powerful system. Learn the exact folder structure, naming conventions, and review processes that turn procedural chaos into operational clarity. Whether you're a solopreneur ready to scale or managing a team that's reinventing the wheel daily, this episode provides the roadmap to document, delegate, and finally find joy in your work again. As always, we try to give you an action list you can do on your own: Immediate Actions (This Week): Create Your Hub • Set up a main folder called "SOPs," "Procedures," or your preferred name • Ensure it's in a shared drive accessible to your team • Remove individual access permissions temporarily if needed Assess Current State • List all the procedures you currently have documented • Identify which team members have created their own "personal" procedures • Note any critical processes that exist only in someone's head Choose Your Categories • Divide your business into main operational areas (e.g., Admin, Sales, Production) • Create main folders for each category • Keep it simple - aim for 4-7 main categories maximum Short-Term Actions (Next 2-4 Weeks): The Great Document Dump • Move ALL documents from subfolders into main category folders • Review for duplicates and conflicting versions • Don't panic - this temporary chaos leads to clarity Establish Naming Conventions • Agree on a team-wide naming system • Include dates, version numbers, or status (TBD, Complete, Archive) • Rename all documents consistently Create Missing SOPs List • For each category, list procedures that need documentation • Create placeholder documents titled "[Process Name] - TO BE COMPLETED" • Assign ownership and deadlines Medium-Term Actions (Next 1-3 Months): Develop Your SOP Template • Include: Purpose, Tools Needed, Step-by-Step Instructions, Screenshots • Add revision dates at the top • Create a video component for complex procedures Write Priority SOPs • Start with your "hit by a bus" procedures - the critical ones only you know • Use simple language (5th grade level) • Include where to find things, which buttons to click, what fields to complete Implement Approval Process • Create a procedure for creating procedures • Establish who approves new SOPs • Set review cycles for existing procedures Long-Term Actions (Ongoing): Build the Habit • Schedule weekly SOP time • Update procedures as processes change • Archive outdated versions rather than deleting Create Onboarding Materials • Develop a "Start Here" folder for new team members • Include how to navigate the SOP system • Add role-specific procedure lists Regular Maintenance • Quarterly reviews of high-use procedures • Annual audit of all SOPs • Celebrate when team members create or update procedures

    40 min

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Revenue and sales are built on a solid operational foundation that allows marketing to thrive in an ever-changing environment with technology. Brought to you by speaker, branding strategist, producer Susan Finch, and Lany Sullivan, Fractional COO, and Strategic Consultant. This show is part of Funnel Media Group’s monthly line-up of podcasts.