Welcome to the Run-Run-Live 4.0 Podcast! - This podcast celebrates the transformative power of endurance sports.
This is the next generation follow up to the RunRunLive 2.0 Podcast.
This show is a thoughtful, interview-based format that explores the connection between running, and endurance sports in general and your physical and mental health.
All episodes, show note, links and previous show iterations can be found at www.runrunlive.com
Episode 4-440 – Jason has an Epiphany
The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-440 – Jason has an Epiphany (Audio: link) audio:http://www.RunRunLive.com/PodcastEpisodes/epi4440.mp3] Link MarathonBQ – How to Qualify for the Boston Marathon in 14 Weeks - Intro: Hello and welcome to episode 4-440 of the RunRunLive podcast. Yes, welcome my friends. I know I’m a week late. It pains me to not meet my commitments. It’s a sign of a life lived out of control. I’m not a control freak but I do like to engender habits. And habits are very strong things. Habits are the fibrous tissue of day to day life. They are hard to tear, but once rent they are hard to put back in place. So, apologies. For being a week late. My work got very time intensive and emotionally taxing for a couple weeks. That combined with the necessary house work and everything else pushed me past, irrevocably past, the deadline. I have taken some corrective action on this front and will talk about that more later. Today we talk with Jason. Jason had one of those death experiences. Not ‘near death’, no, for Jason he died, and then came back. It’s always interesting for me to talk to people who have had these life altering events. It underscores the ability and power we all have inside of us to change, to radically change, to begin to live life before it is too late, but for some reason we don’t. Why is that? What is the glue of normalcy that causes us to submit our dreams of adventure to a the daily grind? Until, one day, we shuffle off the mortal coil leaving dreams unfulfilled scattered here and there like unopened Christmas presents. In section one I’ll talk about how you can build your own ad hoc core workout routines. In section two we’ll catch up with the old man and Bill the dog in the apocalypse. I listen to mostly history podcasts these days. I’ll start a history podcast and listen through until I’m caught up. It’s usually a couple hundred episodes. I like the continuity of it. Of being able to listen through an arc of the historical narrative. Maybe while painting or gardening for a few hours at a time. It’s always a mixture of the bittersweet and the accomplishment when I get caught up. Then it gets me to thinking that there might be someone out there listening to this who has just listened through the athletic arc of a dozen years of my life. That’s odd. If it’s you, send me an email or reach out to me on social I’d love to talk to you. Cyktrussell at gmail dot com. I don’t spend much time on social media anymore. I’ve entirely given up on Twitter. I dip into Facebook to see if anyone is looking for me maybe once a day. I do post pictures on Instagram. That doesn’t seem to be much of a sewer yet, but it’s only a matter of time. Since we last talked, which was after my virtual Boston marathon, I’ve been taking it pretty easy. The leg seems to have gotten better. No more swelling or lumps or lymph node swelling. Kind of makes me feel like a fake. I skipped my race and it turned out to be nothing. But, that is life. I’ve been running with Ollie 3 days a week for 20ish miles, Maybe mid 20’s. Just easy stuff. Mostly trails. I’m easing into core work and yoga on the other days. On Sundays I meet my buddies and we do a long, easy bike ride. Usually around 30 miles. We hit someplace to eat halfway. It’s a nice change. I’ve got my old race bike, Fuji-san, the classic steel frame road bike that I bought to commute with 20 years ago. It’s a real bike. A bit heavy, but good Shimano components, clip on aero bars and enough working gears to get me where I’m going. Usually if I’m training I might average 18 miles an hour. On these pancake and bagel rides we tend to average 11-12 miles per hour, so that should give you a sense of the effort level! I’
Episode 4-439 – Dave and Duane talk Wapack
The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-439 – Dave and Duane talk Wapack (Audio: link) audio:http://www.RunRunLive.com/PodcastEpisodes/epi4439.mp3] Link MarathonBQ – How to Qualify for the Boston Marathon in 14 Weeks - Intro: Hello and welcome to episode 4-439 of the RunRunLive podcast. Today we chat with our friends Duane and David about their adventure on the Wapack Trail. After I had to bail out they decide to go and run it anyhow. They had an adventure and learned some lessons so we decided to do a lessons learned conversation. I ended up ignoring doctor’s orders and running the 124th virtual 2020 Boston Marathon and you lucky folks will get one of my wonderfully thoughtful and entertaining race reports. I know you’ve missed them so, with the apocalypse and all. But, it came out quite long, as race reports do, so that’s all you get in this episode. I know I deviously left you with a cliff-hanger in the apocalypse story narrative. In my own devious way this allows me some more time to work on untying that knot for the next show! That means, I’ll start with the interview and close with the race report and that will fill out our agenda. I’m running out of daylight and I don’t want to delay the episode so without further ado… On with the show About Zero ZERO — The End of Prostate Cancer is the leading national nonprofit with the mission to end prostate cancer. ZERO advances research, improves the lives of men and families, and inspires action. Link to my ZERO page: (for Donations) … I’ll remind you that the RunRunLive podcast is ad free and listener supported. What does that mean? It means you don’t have to listen to me trying to sound sincere about Stamps.com or Audible.. (although, fyi, my MarathonBQ book is on audible) We do have a membership option where you can become a member and as a special thank you, you will get access to member’s only audio. There are book reviews, odd philosophical thoughts, zombie stories and I curate old episodes for you to listen to. I recently added that guy who cut off is foot so he could keep training and my first call with Geoff Galloway. “Curated” means I add some introductory comments and edit them up a bit. So anyhow – become a member so I can keep paying my bills. … The RunRunLive podcast is Ad Free and listener supported. We do this by offering a membership option where members get Access to Exclusive Members Only audio and articles. Member only race reports, essays and other bits just for you! Links are in the show notes and at RunRunLive.com … Section one – It’s not about the shoes - Voices of reason – the conversation David Foss & Duane Hespell – David does an additional review of his adventure with Duane on his podcast here -> Please enjoy the most recent episode of my Just Plain Dave podcast: 063. Duane and Dave’s Excellent Adventure On the Wapack Trail Section two – 2020 Virtual Boston Marathon Outro Ok my friends we have run 1K loops through the end of Episode 4-439 of the RunRunLive Podcast. Although I did not get any call from the doctor about the swelling in my leg in time for my marathon run, he did finally give me a call this week. I nailed it. He said good news is there is no mass. There is some sort of swelling. We don’t know what it is, maybe an infection. Stay off it for a couple weeks and give us call back if it doesn’t’ go away.” To which I responded, “Yeah, it felt fine when I ran a marathon in my neighborhood on Sunday.” Oh how we enjoy our little tête-à-tête… He knows better than to give me the “You need 10 sessions of physical therapy” line. Fall is closing in, daylight is fading and I’m going to take it easy for a few weeks. I’m trying to transition to a weights routine because I feel a bit fragile and weak. I’d love to go
Episode 4-438 – Shop Talk with Brodie
The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-438 – Shop Talk with Brodie (Audio: link) audio:http://www.RunRunLive.com/PodcastEpisodes/epi4438.mp3] Link MarathonBQ – How to Qualify for the Boston Marathon in 14 Weeks - Intro: Hello and welcome to episode 4-438 of the RunRunLive podcast. I’ve got a lot of news today, but we will get to that in more in the outro. Today I recorded a shop talk chat with an Australian dude, Brodie, who I met on Facebook. He is a physio down under and has a podcast about running without getting injured. Which it turns out is super ironic. As for a theme. I was toying with ‘collaboration’, or maybe ‘taking the long view’ or maybe even ‘how to be at peace with what the universe gives you’. I don’t know. We’ll just have to see how it comes out. My training was going well up until the middle of last week. I finished off this cycle with a 18 mile trail run with the dog last Sunday. I have been challenged by how busy I am at work. Surely feeling the stress of time scarcity, whether real or imagined. In section one I think I’m going to talk about shoes because Brodie brought this up and I think it needs clarification. In section 2 I’m going to give you part two of the latest apocalypse story where I try my hand at writing some exposition. I was also feeling a lot of stress around the current news cycles. So I decided to shut off the incoming feeds. We all like to think of ourselves as independent of external influences but at the end of the day we are as Pavlovian as Cocker Spaniels. What you let into your awareness colors your awareness. The news and social media channels know this. They also know how to manipulate your emotions. If you don’t believe me try an A-B test on any of your social media. Publish two pieces of content. One hopeful and positive. The other angry and negative. See which one gets the most response. The algorithms automatically reinforce our natural negative biases and will drive the anger and outrage to the top of your feeds. It’s a negative reinforcement cycle. Unfortunately, the news isn’t much better. If it bleeds it leads. I was starting my days by reading the headlines of the different news feeds I get. I decided to stop reading the news and I also stopped posting or reading Facebook in particular. I gave up Twitter a couple years ago. If you need to reach me send me an email. I’m still posting on Instagram as cyktrussell if you like pictures of food and dogs. It’s too bad. These are the same tools that allowed me to meet and get to know you, my friends. Now they are driving us apart. But at the end of the day it’s a choice, right? You’d like to believe that you can choose how to interact and react and you can control your own emotions from external influences. But in the spirit of balance, the universe also gave back to me when I needed it this week. All the old running podcasters from a decade ago started interacting on a new audio app called Cappuccino. This takes us back to that intimate little club of casual runners who used to get together on Twitter in the old days. It’s nice to hear from them. It’s got a bit of an ‘old soldiers’ feel to it. And let’s make that the theme for today why don’t we? Old friends. You and I and old friends, On with the show. About Zero ZERO — The End of Prostate Cancer is the leading national nonprofit with the mission to end prostate cancer. ZERO advances research, improves the lives of men and families, and inspires action. Link to my ZERO page: (for Donations) … I’ll remind you that the RunRunLive podcast is ad free and listener supported. What does that mean? It means you don’t have to listen to me trying to sound sincere about Stamps.com or Audible.. (although, fyi, my MarathonBQ book is on audi
Episode 4-437 – Rickey Gates – Across America
The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-437 – Rickey Gates – Across America (Audio: link) audio:http://www.RunRunLive.com/PodcastEpisodes/epi4437.mp3] Link MarathonBQ – How to Qualify for the Boston Marathon in 14 Weeks - Intro: Hello and welcome to episode 4-437 of the RunRunLive podcast. Today’s theme is journeys. I connected with Rickey Gates and we have an interesting discussion around his journeys, particularly his 2016 run across America. This particular journey wasn’t about getting the miles in per se, it was about discovering the heart of the country and finding himself. And that’s the gift that we get from our endurance sports practices. Every time we lace up the shoes and leave the house it’s a microcosm of the great journey. It’s a small version of that unsettled quest we homo sapiens have always had, not only to find what’s on the other side of the next hill but what’s on the other side of our known limits. In section one I talk about the nuances of doing tempo training in the trails and in section two I wrote another installment of the old man apocalypse story, because Tim asked me to. This one is going to be the first part of a 3-parter. I’ve had a decent couple weeks of training. We got through the hot part of the summer up here and now we are rapidly approaching autumn and fall. After we last spoke I spent a weekend down at my house on Cape Cod. I had a big weekend in my training. Friday night I had a long tempo run and by the time I got the podcast out and drove down it was late afternoon. I did not feel like going out for a hard, hot, long workout. I was mad because I packed up my water back pack and my bottle then forgot to put it in the truck in my haste. It’s so hot and humid and dry on the Cape, with way less tree cover, that you really need a good hydration option. I grabbed a bottle of water and figured I’d give it a try and see how I felt. I took Ollie and set off across the street to a state park that apparently no one really knows about. It’s sectioned up by dirt roads and has a couple ponds. I discovered it while mountain biking and was a bit astonished to realize there was a state park ½ mile from my door that I had been running by for years. A dirt road on the Cape is a sand road. The whole place is one big sand dune. I’ve discovered a loop that circumnavigates one of the ponds. It’s conveniently about a mile from the house, then a short mile of single path through the scrub oak and blueberries around the pond. For tempo I can just run the loop and when time is up I can jog home And that’s what I did that Friday night. Even though I felt s****y and discombobulated going in I felt pretty strong once I warmed up. Ollie and I got into a rhythm and ran the workout with a reasonable amount of aplomb. The next day, Saturday, I had a 3-hour bike ride on the schedule and I wasn’t quite sure how I was going to do that with my water pack. I found a random tradeshow backpack in my truck and I loaded that up with a few bottles of water and some food. I made it all the way from Harwich up the rail trail to the end at the beach in Wellfleet turned around and came back. There were a lot of people out on the trail. I talked to some people wearing PanMass Challenge shirts and apparently that was a virtual event this year as well. It was Sunday that really had me worried. It was going to be the hottest day and I had a 3-hour run on the schedule. The only way I could figure out how to do it safely was to go early and do 3 1-hour out and backs. I started the first leg around 7:00 AM and headed on the roads over to the rail trail east. Even at that time of day it was hot in the full sun on the bike trail. There weren’t many people out yet, mostly serious bikers getting their workouts in before the crowds
Episode 4-436 – Farm to Fork Fondo
The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-436 – Farm to Fork Fondo (Audio: link) audio:http://www.RunRunLive.com/PodcastEpisodes/epi4435.mp3] Link MarathonBQ – How to Qualify for the Boston Marathon in 14 Weeks - Intro: Hellos and welcome to the badly delayed episode 4-436 of the RunRunLive podcast. Today’s show is about farming. It’s about growing things. It’s about the late summer harvest of ideas and endurance. We have a chat with retired professional cyclist Tyler Wren who has started a post-pro life around supporting local farms in Vermont called farm to fork fitness. I ran into him because I’ve been doing a long bike ride at least once a week and thinking about the impact that the current apocalypse has had on these local farms and families. With the restaurants closed it impact specialized growers adversely. The specialized stuff, the local stuff, is the good for you stuff. I’d hate to see even more of them disappear. To see even more beautiful tracks of rural land turned into vacation condos. In section one I’m going to muse on what my running has taught me in the month of July as I push through the heat and humidity. In section two I’m going to talk about the history of agriculture. Because, that’s our theme. I’m doing fine, just busy with work and training and my wife needing me to do pointless man-things like paint the house. It all stacks up and, you, my unfortunate friends are made to suffer the vacuum of my attentions. I’m healthy. Ollie is healthy. We’ve been getting in a lot of miles in the trails. I’m starting to move into some fairly good volume as I target running the Wapack and back with Eric and anyone else who wants to come next month. More about that in the outro. … My own garden is hit and miss this year. I planted a lot of squash but it seems to have gotten a late start and I’m only getting a few. Whereas in other years I’ve gotten piles of zucchini and summer squash, this year only a few have battled through. The root borers are into the stalks now and that usually kills anything left. My berry patch has been less than spectacular as well. I have a very mature and robust patch of red raspberries. These are hybrids and have multiple sets of large berries. But I’ve also got a bunch of the native black raspberry canes that are muscling their way into my garden like unwanted ruffians at a genteel social event. Both of these typically overwhelm me with berries. Not this year. We seem to have a boom in wildlife. Something ate most of my red raspberries. I think it’s the birds. I’m getting the Black ones now but they are getting poached as well. In other years I would pull several pints a week out of the patch. This year I have salvaged barely enough to flavor 2 bowls of oatmeal. My tomatoes are just coming on now. A few weeks late. I’m keeping an eye on them because I have a chipmunk problem as well. The chipmunks won’t necessarily eat your tomatoes and squash but they will bite into them. The rodents also burrow around a bit as well. Ripping up the plants in general. They got my curly parsley. I had it growing in a pot in my garden and something burrowed into the pot and ate the root. Left the parsley. Ate the root. Then the next day they came back and ate the parsley. Not sure whether that was the chipmunk or some other kind of rodent. It was a very precisely executed crime. I suspect on orders of the rodent syndicate. Understand that my garden is heavily fortified. This isn’t my first rodent rodeo. I’ve got a 4-foot fence with chicken wire buried into the ground. That keeps the Woodchucks and rabbits out. Speaking of rabbits and woodchucks, I’ve given up on trying to trap the woodchucks and rabbits in the yard this year. There are so many of them. There’s
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