Rutger Bregman on human nature

My guest  is Rutger Bregman from Holland. He’s a historian and an author. His books Humankind and Utopia for Realists were both New York Times Bestsellers. You might also know him from a viral video of a speech he did in Davos or from an unaired, but leaked interview with Fox News that completely pissed off the host Tucker Carlson.

We discuss how how we should move to a more benevolent view of human nature and how that would change the way we run our companies. 

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