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Ep.39 | Susan Packard: Supporting Young Adults in Sobriety Saving You a Seat

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Did you know that 25% of young adults meet the definition for substance abuse disorder? In a culture fueled by social media where partying and overdoing just about everything is considered the norm, it’s no shock that addiction is a huge problem for the people who will become our future leaders.

The stigma surrounding substance abuse disorder can be brutally difficult for anyone recovering, and for young people and their parents, it raises very specific challenges.

This week, I am honored to welcome my friend, Susan Packard, back to the table. Susan is a co-founder of HGTV and is in long-term recovery. She speaks about her own recovery, why it was so important to her as an executive, and how the disease of “more” swirls around executives in many ways. Her latest book, The Little Book of College Sobriety, was released this past June. It captures the real-world stories of college students who speak  openly about their addiction and their road to recovery.

Sobriety is best done in a slow cooker, which means it is done intentionally and with great care one day at a time. For those recovering from substance use disorder and attending college and living on campus, it is like being in an environment that can only be described as their own personal Sodom and Gomorrah. Temptations are everywhere and they dig deep, every day.. It is vital for the recovery community to embrace these young people and help them on their path to true freedom, wellness and healing.

Here’s what we connect on:


The moment Susan truly recognized she had a problem with alcohol  (2:40)
The importance of empowering and encouraging young sober people (15:43)
How there is plenty for us to learn from these college students who have truly been brought to their knees (21:05)
Tools that are actually helping college students stay sober while in school (27:02)
The effort towards erasing the stigma around recovery in the workplace (31:22)

Thank you so much for saving a seat for us this week! Please rate this podcast and subscribe so you don’t miss the next episode!

To connect with Susan, visit her at www.susanpackard.com, on Instagram @susanpackard. Order her new book, The Little Book of College Sobriety, everywhere books are sold.

To connect with Karen, follow her on social media: @karenjhardwick and visit connectedleaderbook.com to order The Connected Leader today.

Did you know that 25% of young adults meet the definition for substance abuse disorder? In a culture fueled by social media where partying and overdoing just about everything is considered the norm, it’s no shock that addiction is a huge problem for the people who will become our future leaders.

The stigma surrounding substance abuse disorder can be brutally difficult for anyone recovering, and for young people and their parents, it raises very specific challenges.

This week, I am honored to welcome my friend, Susan Packard, back to the table. Susan is a co-founder of HGTV and is in long-term recovery. She speaks about her own recovery, why it was so important to her as an executive, and how the disease of “more” swirls around executives in many ways. Her latest book, The Little Book of College Sobriety, was released this past June. It captures the real-world stories of college students who speak  openly about their addiction and their road to recovery.

Sobriety is best done in a slow cooker, which means it is done intentionally and with great care one day at a time. For those recovering from substance use disorder and attending college and living on campus, it is like being in an environment that can only be described as their own personal Sodom and Gomorrah. Temptations are everywhere and they dig deep, every day.. It is vital for the recovery community to embrace these young people and help them on their path to true freedom, wellness and healing.

Here’s what we connect on:


The moment Susan truly recognized she had a problem with alcohol  (2:40)
The importance of empowering and encouraging young sober people (15:43)
How there is plenty for us to learn from these college students who have truly been brought to their knees (21:05)
Tools that are actually helping college students stay sober while in school (27:02)
The effort towards erasing the stigma around recovery in the workplace (31:22)

Thank you so much for saving a seat for us this week! Please rate this podcast and subscribe so you don’t miss the next episode!

To connect with Susan, visit her at www.susanpackard.com, on Instagram @susanpackard. Order her new book, The Little Book of College Sobriety, everywhere books are sold.

To connect with Karen, follow her on social media: @karenjhardwick and visit connectedleaderbook.com to order The Connected Leader today.

34 min