58 episodes

Dr Rupert Sheldrake is a biologist and author best known for his hypothesis of morphic resonance. Mark Vernon is a psychotherapist and author. Together they discuss: consciousness, prayer, angels, science and spiritual practices, magic, dreams, hell, the unconscious, rituals, enlightenment, atheism, materialism, and more.

The Sheldrake Vernon Dialogues Rupert Sheldrake and Mark Vernon

    • Spirituality
    • 4.8, 61 Ratings

Dr Rupert Sheldrake is a biologist and author best known for his hypothesis of morphic resonance. Mark Vernon is a psychotherapist and author. Together they discuss: consciousness, prayer, angels, science and spiritual practices, magic, dreams, hell, the unconscious, rituals, enlightenment, atheism, materialism, and more.

    The Flip, A discussion of Jeffrey Kripal’s book

    The Flip, A discussion of Jeffrey Kripal’s book

    Did you know Albert Einstein advocated telepathy research or that Marie Curie attended seances? In this edition of The Sheldrake-Vernon Dialogues, Rupert Sheldrake and Mark Vernon discuss, The Flip, a new book by Jeffrey Kripal. The title refers to the range of experiences, from precognitive dreams to NDEs, that “flip” individuals from a mechanistic and materialist worldview. They become much more open to possibilities such as panpsychism and idealism. Kripal’s contention is that flips are common and, were they talked about, they would change culture. But would they? The conversation ranges over the links between psychic phenomena and spiritual experiences, to whether there are better ways of discussing psi beyond the perennial issue of proof? Is panpsychism an adequate way forward? And what is the meaning of the flips that people undoubtedly have?

    • 28 min
    David Bohm: his life and ideas

    David Bohm: his life and ideas

    A new film, Infinite Potential: The Life and Ideas of David Bohm – https://www.infinitepotential.com – has just been released for free online. In this episode of the Sheldrake-Vernon Dialogues, Rupert Sheldrake and Mark Vernon discuss its excellent telling of the dramatic life and revolutionary insights of this deep scientific thinker. Rupert first met Bohm in 1982 soon after the publication of his book A New Science of Life precipitated a negative reaction from the militant materialists; the editor of the leading scientific journal Nature tried to excommunicate him. Bohm had a similar experience forty years earlier with the quantum physics community. Mark and Rupert talk about what Bohm drew from Krishnamurti, and how the formalisms of quantum theory are influenced by psychological and spiritual perceptions. They also explore the ways in which Bohm’s notion of an implicate order resonates strongly with that of morphic fields, and discuss Bohm’s engagement with the ideas of Owen Barfield, about whom Mark has written. They highly recommend the film.

    • 28 min
    Sacred Spaces

    Sacred Spaces

    Cathedrals are increasingly welcoming novel explorations of their tremendous interiors. In this episode of the Sheldrake-Vernon Dialogues, Rupert Sheldrake and Mark Vernon discuss the powerful experiences that come with feeling free in sacred spaces. They look at how to access the sense of presence they hold, from lying on the ground to sitting in silence, noting that how you approach a building or shrine affects the spiritual qualities revealed. It’s also about the rediscovery of invocation and ritual, gesture and stance, and how they yield different dimensions of reality. This can happen without words, too, in subtle forms of search. The Coronavirus and lockdown only underlines the blessings received by visiting sacred places. They also ask how sacred places can be made at home.

    • 24 min
    Subtle Energies and Healing

    Subtle Energies and Healing

    Psychotherapies that work, though with no agreement about how they work, are becoming mainstream. For example, EMDR is widely used in the treatment of trauma. So what can be said about their efficacy and what, if anything, do they have to do with subtle energies, morphic resonance, quantum phenomena or even the soul? In this episode of the Sheldrake-Vernon dialogues, Mark Vernon asks Rupert Sheldrake how his theory of morphogenetic fields might relate to various types of therapy and healing. They consider how certain explanations can appear “hand wavy” and how to be more discerning when discussing these things. It turns out that there is good evidence that a variety of such therapies work, but how they work is not understood. So arguably it is better to avoid pseudo-scientific explanations and let the treatments, and their efficacy, speak for themselves.

    • 31 min
    Eco-confessions

    Eco-confessions

    Climate change has become the climate crisis, even climate emergency. In this episode of the Sheldrake-Vernon dialogues, Rupert Sheldrake begins with an observation to Mark Vernon. He’s noticed how people are increasingly feeling the need to confess their carbon use and he wonders what that means. The thought develops into a conversation about living with the anxiety of our times where we can’t but help take part in eco-hostile activities. But maybe this is a necessary stage. Eco-confessions could help us to become more aware of our lives and the world around us. They might even be a crucial step towards the freedom required for us to re-envision the world and cosmos as enchanted if we can be less preoccupied with guilt and more open to renewed vitality and wonder.

    • 32 min
    Imagination and Unfolding Reality

    Imagination and Unfolding Reality

    Many today struggle to perceive spiritual reality. But might we be passing through a stage in the evolution of human awareness? In this episode of the Sheldrake-Vernon dialogues, Rupert Sheldrake and Mark Vernon discuss a recent conference that addressed this question. It was inspired by the ideas of Owen Barfield, whom Mark has written about in his new book, A Secret History of Christianity. Barfield argued the task is not just to recover old ways of perceiving nature and the divine but requires a radical transformation of ourselves that can be troubling and even tragic. Rupert and Mark ask about the role of service and discerning the imagination in this process and how we might learn to relate afresh to consciousnesses and intelligences in the world around us. All the talks from the conference are available online at www.markvernon.com/evolving-consciousness

    • 36 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
61 Ratings

61 Ratings

mr. kris 12345 ,

Amazing and interesting

Two of the brightest, most intellectually honest and openly-minded people of our day discussing the best and most interesting topics... just amazing.

I would prefer much longer conversations. I am always bummed by the 30-minute limitation. It’s hardly enough for an adequate introduction to the topics. Long-form podcasts are the most popular right now for a good reason. We want more. More of the good stuff, more science, more research, more stories, more laughs, more unscripted goodness, more depth! Love it!

Benny6996 ,

Provocative thought and healthy common sense

I only wish this podcast were lengthier and more often. Mark works well off of Rupert and both are endlessly fascinating to listen too! I immensely enjoy their deconstruction of scientific dogmas that are so rarely brought up. I really appreciate their realistic skepticism instead of the annoying and groundless “Shermer” brand of skeptical inquiry that is so common. I hope this podcast keeps on keeping on!!!

the material soul ,

The best of the 88 (and counting) podcasts I subsribe to

I get a mild thrill whenever I see that a new Science Set Free episode has come through. It's a type of thrill that is rare among the many podcasts and other sources of information I consume (the only other example that comes to mind is when I see a new post has come through on Jules Evans's website).

If you are a curious person who seeks intellectual stimulation in all manner of far flung places, I strongly encourage you to give this podcast a try. It's hard to explain exactly what I find so compelling about it. Basically, there is a type of quiet lightning that happens when Rupert and Mark's minds come together, when assumptions (often unconscious) are revealed and challenged, when new visions are proferred, when science/intellect engages with intuition/poetry in a kind of dance. If I kept talking I'd be apt to drown it in superlatives. Just pick an episode, find a quiet place, and press play.

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